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« on: September 23, 2021, 01:28:59 PM »




Even if this is Rasmussen , this is still a very bad poll for the Democrats
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2021, 01:30:02 PM »

Yeah, sure.
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2021, 01:33:09 PM »

Rassy gonna Rassy.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2021, 01:33:49 PM »
« Edited: September 23, 2021, 01:36:52 PM by Old School Republican »


I mean if even unskewed its still a bad poll. I think it does show that Biden's popularity has dropped and its starting too look like how 2017 was at similar points when I believe there were polls showing Hillary way ahead of Trump and that kinda foreshadowed how bad 2018 could be.

Like a lot of voters in polls like this reflexively choose whatever side is against the incumbents in polls like these even if they wouldnt vote for that particular candidate against the incumbent. That does show bad news for 2022 for the house when house races now are basically: The President vs Generic R/D





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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2021, 01:36:50 PM »

I do think it's possible for Trump to win against Biden and Harris but certainly not by 10 and 13 points.

I think the realistic popular vote ceiling for Trump would be 1-2 points against Biden and 3-4 points against Harris.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2021, 01:41:50 PM »

It's 1500 days til 2024 and 365 days til 2022, it's a long time
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2021, 01:41:57 PM »

I do think it's possible for Trump to win against Biden and Harris but certainly not by 10 and 13 points.

I think the realistic popular vote ceiling for Trump would be 1-2 points against Biden and 3-4 points against Harris.

Pretty much. A 10-13 point popular vote win for any candidate is quite literally not possible in our current climate.
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2021, 01:44:19 PM »
« Edited: September 23, 2021, 01:48:08 PM by Chips »

More specifically, I think Trump's popular vote ceiling is in the 49-50% range against Biden and in the 51-52% range against Harris.

Even then, I feel like I might be a little generous to Trump to assume he can even win the popular vote at all. Well, against Biden anyway. I feel like if he does, it won't be because of any real improvements made in his campaign compared to 2020 but because Biden's approval sinks even further than it already is to the point where Biden is just as unpopular on election day 2024 as Trump was at that same point in 2020. That might just prove enough to where Trump would not only win a comfortable electoral college victory but squeeze out a very narrow popular vote victory as well.

Against Harris, Trump would probably have better odds of winning the popular vote but it would still be far from certain he could.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2021, 01:49:57 PM »

It's definitely not true but America (outside of partisan democrats) also definitely forgot there was a coup attempt cheered on by Trump.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2021, 01:51:49 PM »

I do think it's possible for Trump to win against Biden and Harris but certainly not by 10 and 13 points.

I think the realistic popular vote ceiling for Trump would be 1-2 points against Biden and 3-4 points against Harris.

Pretty much. A 10-13 point popular vote win for any candidate is quite literally not possible in our current climate.

The poll doesnt mean anything for 2024 but shows how much trouble the dems could be in for 2022. Its like Republicans laughing at polls showing Hillary way ahead of Trump in 2017, and while she would have lost in a rematch to Trump it still forshadowed the 2018 midterm disaster
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2021, 01:57:48 PM »

I do think it's possible for Trump to win against Biden and Harris but certainly not by 10 and 13 points.

I think the realistic popular vote ceiling for Trump would be 1-2 points against Biden and 3-4 points against Harris.

Pretty much. A 10-13 point popular vote win for any candidate is quite literally not possible in our current climate.

The poll doesnt mean anything for 2024 but shows how much trouble the dems could be in for 2022. Its like Republicans laughing at polls showing Hillary way ahead of Trump in 2017, and while she would have lost in a rematch to Trump it still forshadowed the 2018 midterm disaster

Oh absolutely. But I think everyone agrees that 2022 will be favorable to Republicans- the only question is how favorable.
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2021, 02:00:04 PM »

No.
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2021, 08:47:28 PM »

Rasmussen is a joke firm
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2021, 09:04:33 PM »

It's definitely not true but America (outside of partisan democrats) also definitely forgot there was a coup attempt cheered on by Trump.

Or maybe, even worse, they don't care.
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2021, 09:05:27 PM »

Rasmussen (or should I say RASSY) gets worse with every poll
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2021, 09:24:38 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2021, 09:26:22 PM »

Remember when Hillary was up fifteen points 2+ years out from the election? How'd that work out?
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2021, 02:52:43 PM »

Trump isn't under scrutiny right now, but he will be once the Insurrectionists Commission finish their report, but some think it's a distraction from DOJ going after Trump on Obstructing Justice and Ukraine because of Hunter Biden
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2021, 06:45:39 PM »

It's definitely not true but America (outside of partisan democrats) also definitely forgot there was a coup attempt cheered on by Trump.

Democrats would use the Capitol Putsch against him in the majority of ads.
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2021, 06:41:53 PM »

There's little doubt in my mind that if the election were held today, Trump would win comfortably. Fortunately for Biden, it's not for three years. Even so, this isn't good.
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2021, 07:00:35 PM »

Seems credibly that 51% of the country wants Trump.  You should definitely vote for him in the primary OSR.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2021, 07:03:08 PM »

Seems credibly that 51% of the country wants Trump.  You should definitely vote for him in the primary OSR.

 not gonna happen
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2021, 07:12:41 PM »

There's little doubt in my mind that if the election were held today, Trump would win comfortably. Fortunately for Biden, it's not for three years. Even so, this isn't good.

Trump is only doing well due to his generally low visibility right now.
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2021, 07:20:27 PM »

Seems credibly that 51% of the country wants Trump.  You should definitely vote for him in the primary OSR.

 not gonna happen

but he's literally polling at 51-52%!
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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2021, 07:22:35 PM »

See now, this is a perfect example of why polls are turning into irrelevant garbage. 

Trump got around 46-48% of the national vote running for election twice.  What makes anyone think he could credibly get 51-52% this time?  Which would essentially mean a swing of like 5 million actual voters.
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