Ted deutch (D-Fl) just accused Rashida tlaib of anti-semitism on floor of house
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« on: September 23, 2021, 12:19:26 PM »



Calling Israel apartheid might fly in the toxic dump that is dearborn Michigan.

It won’t fly among our already targeted Jewish brethren in south Florida and nyc

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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2021, 12:21:18 PM »

South Florida Dems are some of the worst in the house. Wilson is the only tolerable one.

I hope Tlaib stands tall against these disgusting insults. Deutch should be censured for this garbage.
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2021, 12:28:11 PM »

Tlaib, Omar, AOC, Bush, and Pocan have been actively putting American Jews in danger for years now, the same way Greene, Gosar, and Cawthorn have. Deutch has had enough, and I hope he follows up by moving to expel them from their committee.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2021, 12:28:12 PM »



She called the Iron Dome a weapon. While it may be , by a very technical definition it clearly is not a weapon by any reasonable sense of the word.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2021, 12:29:06 PM »

Somehow I don’t think Florida voters will care much about this libel coming from a member of the most incompetent state party in the United States. Given they blew one of the easiest elections possible and lost two elections in otherwise good years for Democrats, listening to anything they say is just going to turn the national party into performing like Florida democrats.

Keep purging progressives though from the state leadership, there’s been a lot of gains for the Green Party and PSL now that they know they have no future in the local Democratic Party.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2021, 12:49:44 PM »



Calling Israel apartheid might fly in the toxic dump that is dearborn Michigan.

It won’t fly among our already targeted Jewish brethren in south Florida and nyc



Calling the most Muslim city in the country a “toxic dump” won’t fly either.
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2021, 01:10:37 PM »

In before the discourse goes to sh*t
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2021, 01:43:32 PM »

Things are only going to get worse and worse and worse for the squad simps on this issue.

You're in the wrong, and the momentum against them just keeps on building, mostly due to their own actions/statements since they are, in-fact, anti-semitic.

Just jump off the train.  Nobody's going to call you a hypocrite or mock you if you just let go and admit that they are terrible anti-Semites.

And for Christ's sake, if you want to stay on the train, do it because you think the allegations are overblown.  Don't talk yourself into becoming an anti-Semite just so you can rationalize your continuing love for the squad.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2021, 01:44:09 PM »

Israel is genuinely terrible in some of the things they do…but trying to hurt their civilians is not the way to go.
The squad is narrow minded and completely ridiculous on this.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2021, 02:49:50 PM »


You were too late for that
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2021, 02:55:25 PM »
« Edited: September 23, 2021, 03:01:27 PM by Triangle Man »

Things are only going to get worse and worse and worse for the squad simps on this issue.

You're in the wrong, and the momentum against them just keeps on building, mostly due to their own actions/statements since they are, in-fact, anti-semitic.

Just jump off the train.  Nobody's going to call you a hypocrite or mock you if you just let go and admit that they are terrible anti-Semites.

And for Christ's sake, if you want to stay on the train, do it because you think the allegations are overblown.  Don't talk yourself into becoming an anti-Semite just so you can rationalize your continuing love for the squad.

They are our version of Donald Trump but it would have been great to get something in return for our continued support of these projects provided they aren’t already promised. As it becomes harder and harder to defend people who don’t like Israel but otherwise have some good ideas, you have to admit it’s becoming harder and harder to be pro-Israel. Israel was out of control with the last guy, no matter how many threats they had to deal with and I’m generally skeptical that there can be a two state solution.
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2021, 03:02:28 PM »

So is the position is that Palestinians aren’t people or that Israel can’t criticized?

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2021, 03:24:57 PM »

So is the position is that Palestinians aren’t people or that Israel can’t criticized?



No, the position is that blood-libelers don't get to incite the murder of Jews unquestioned six months after pogroms in the streets of America.
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2021, 03:27:07 PM »

Tlaib should watch her toungue and perhaps tone down the rhetoric somewhat.
But she is not wrong generally. I am sick of Democrats and Republicans alike being slavishly devoted to Israel, overlooking its faults and mistreating Palestine. Not saying Palestine is good either, but it's time to stop blindly supporting Israel (for political purposes or not being accused of antisemitism or ignorance or whatever) and labelling any critisim of Israel as antisemtism. (Although I should say before anyone attacks me of antisemitism, I myself don't know very much about Israel/Palestine, but based on what I do know and some news, it's pretty clear atrocities occur from both sides and aren't limited to Palestine abusing Israel and Israel being totally defenseless.)



Interested to see what flyingmongoose thinks about this, since we agree on the vast majority of issues and I believe he is Jewish.
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2021, 03:29:02 PM »

So is the position is that Palestinians aren’t people or that Israel can’t criticized?



No, the position is that blood-libelers don't get to incite the murder of Jews unquestioned six months after pogroms in the streets of America.

There has never been anything close to a pogrom in America. Your sensationalist and extremist language does a massive disservice to the memories of the victims of actual pogroms.
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2021, 03:36:10 PM »

So is the position is that Palestinians aren’t people or that Israel can’t criticized?



No, the position is that blood-libelers don't get to incite the murder of Jews unquestioned six months after pogroms in the streets of America.

There has never been anything close to a pogrom in America. Your sensationalist and extremist language does a massive disservice to the memories of the victims of actual pogroms.

Jews being set on fire and beaten in the streets of New York by mobs seeking them out is a pogrom.

Mobs demanding the Jews among a group of diners identify themselves for punishment is a pogrom.

The media might have done an amazing job of convincing the public that an organized wave of hate crimes designed to punish Jews for the supposed crimes of a nation half a world away didn't happen, but the video is out there as are the court records.
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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2021, 03:41:05 PM »

So is the position is that Palestinians aren’t people or that Israel can’t criticized?



No, the position is that blood-libelers don't get to incite the murder of Jews unquestioned six months after pogroms in the streets of America.

There has never been anything close to a pogrom in America. Your sensationalist and extremist language does a massive disservice to the memories of the victims of actual pogroms.

Jews being set on fire and beaten in the streets of New York by mobs seeking them out is a pogrom.

Mobs demanding the Jews among a group of diners identify themselves for punishment is a pogrom.

The media might have done an amazing job of convincing the public that an organized wave of hate crimes designed to punish Jews for the supposed crimes of a nation half a world away didn't happen, but the video is out there as are the court records.

Definition of pogrom -

"Organized massacre of a particular ethnic group..."

None of the supposed events you mention come anywhere near that. And just lol at your suggestion that the msm isn't blindingly pro Israel.

But yeah, some left wing activist being a jerk at a diner is totally equivalent to a violent massacre. Do you even listen to yourself? Your posts should be deleted for excessive hyperbole, but at least one USGD mod shares in your delusions so that won't happen.
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2021, 03:50:33 PM »

So is the position is that Palestinians aren’t people or that Israel can’t criticized?



No, the position is that blood-libelers don't get to incite the murder of Jews unquestioned six months after pogroms in the streets of America.

There has never been anything close to a pogrom in America. Your sensationalist and extremist language does a massive disservice to the memories of the victims of actual pogroms.

Jews being set on fire and beaten in the streets of New York by mobs seeking them out is a pogrom.

Mobs demanding the Jews among a group of diners identify themselves for punishment is a pogrom.

The media might have done an amazing job of convincing the public that an organized wave of hate crimes designed to punish Jews for the supposed crimes of a nation half a world away didn't happen, but the video is out there as are the court records.

Definition of pogrom -

"Organized massacre of a particular ethnic group..."

None of the supposed events you mention come anywhere near that. And just lol at your suggestion that the msm isn't blindingly pro Israel.

But yeah, some left wing activist being a jerk at a diner is totally equivalent to a violent massacre. Do you even listen to yourself? Your posts should be deleted for excessive hyperbole, but at least one USGD mod shares in your delusions so that won't happen.

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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2021, 03:56:20 PM »

Tlaib is a Palestinian. Can we give her a pass on not being supportive of Israel? Please?
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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2021, 04:00:11 PM »

Tlaib is a Palestinian. Can we give her a pass on not being supportive of Israel? Please?

No one was expecting her to be pro-Israel. She doesn't get a pass for blood libels and dual loyalty slurs.
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2021, 04:05:06 PM »

Leaving aside our personal feelings on either Tliab or Deutch, can we just appreciate that they are probably among the most likely pair to have very antagonistically different stances on something like this? Among House Democrats at least.
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2021, 04:10:45 PM »

Tlaib is a Palestinian. Can we give her a pass on not being supportive of Israel? Please?


Calling Israel an apartheid state is at once incendiary and false. There is no need for her to go there. So I won't give her a pass. I say this as one who has been harshly critical of the Israeli settlements unilaterally placed there on the West Bank, and the excessive US "blank check" to "let" Israel do that, since day one. The problem is that the Palestinian leadership itself has been hopeless. The whole thing is a freaking mess. It is almost as bad as the current state of the US public square!

What is out there to give one a reasonable level of confidence that "that woman" is not an incorrigible Jew hater btw?

Calm down Torie. It's time to take your meds, you old curmudgeon you.
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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2021, 04:20:34 PM »

Tlaib is a Palestinian. Can we give her a pass on not being supportive of Israel? Please?

No one was expecting her to be pro-Israel. She doesn't get a pass for blood libels and dual loyalty slurs.
She doesn’t get a pass for something she did not say.
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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2021, 04:27:17 PM »
« Edited: September 23, 2021, 06:57:49 PM by I’M GONNA TOOOOOOOOM »

He’s right.

And Tlaib and Omar need to be expelled from Congress, or at the very least have their committee assignments stripped.  
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2021, 04:30:11 PM »

I don't have a very strong stake in this consequentially irrelevant spat, but I'm really not sure how criticizing the actions state of Israel is inherently anti-Semitic.

The idea that because American Jews have been attacked in the past year (which is both bad and true) it's inappropriate to criticize the actions of a *government* is just absurd. There's no logical consistency. That's like saying it's inappropriate to criticize the government of Pakistan because Indian Muslims have been attacked. It's a fallacy. I disagree with many of Tlaib's stances towards Israel. I think the Iron Dome is a good idea. But no government is the representation of and ethnic group's right to exist on earth, and her criticisms of Israel--or even Zionism as a concept--are not tantamount to an attack on the existence of Jewish people. She may even be an anti-Semite, but the "Israel is an apartheid state" is not an anti-Semetic slur and it certainly isn't "inciting the murder of Jews." No reasonable person would ever apply this standard anywhere else.
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