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« on: September 27, 2021, 09:44:56 AM »

I don't support question 2 because it replaces the police department with something else.

Abolish the police means abolish the police, not "disband and replace with something else under a similar name"

Well abolish the police completely is almost guaranteed to fail, that one ultra-Democrat suburb in Chicagoland this year that voted against 80 to 20. If it continues under a completely different name (the Department of War becoming the Department of Defense), it allows a certain segment of partisans to claim victory that they abolished the police while really the police are still in force. So virtue signaling bullsh**t.
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2021, 11:44:59 AM »
« Edited: September 27, 2021, 11:51:29 AM by StateBoiler »

I don't support question 2 because it replaces the police department with something else.

Abolish the police means abolish the police, not "disband and replace with something else under a similar name"

Well abolish the police completely is almost guaranteed to fail, that one ultra-Democrat suburb in Chicagoland this year that voted against 80 to 20. If it continues under a completely different name (the Department of War becoming the Department of Defense), it allows a certain segment of partisans to claim victory that they abolished the police while really the police are still in force. So virtue signaling bullsh**t.

I mean, reconstitution offers some advantages for the advocates, and there are favorable examples to point to. You end the police department, effectively firing all the institutional rot that has built up. The new department can start from scratch and put all the reforms viewed as necessary into it's code without pushback. It then can begin to rehire, but those that disagreed with the reforms won't be signing on. New guys will who accept the new order.

So you want to disband the Iraqi Army, and then reconstitute a new Iraqi Army?

This board can be Reddit sometimes.
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