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« on: October 22, 2021, 03:50:21 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/22/europe/luxembourg-cannabis-legalization-intl/index.html

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uxembourg is set to become the first European nation to legalize the growing and use of cannabis, the government announced in a statement on Friday.

Under the new legislation, adults over 18 in Luxembourg will be allowed to use cannabis, and to grow up to four plants per household, which would make it the first country in Europe to fully legalize the production and consumption of the drug.

Decriminalization will also dramatically lower the current fines for possession of the drug to between $29 and $581 for possession of three grams or less, down from the current fines of $291 to $2,910.

Consuming cannabis in public, however, will remain illegal.
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2021, 05:55:25 AM »

The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2021, 11:58:11 AM »

Cool, well done Luxembourg
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2021, 06:49:36 PM »

Looks like they will beat Germany to this as my understanding is the three parties to make up the likely traffic light coalition all support cannabis legalization so I suspect Germany in next 2 years will as well.
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2021, 01:50:24 PM »

Hopefully belgium does the same but i doubt it. People are generally morons here.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2021, 02:29:04 PM »

Hopefully belgium does the same but i doubt it. People are generally morons here.

Yes and no. The main issue in Belgium is that we are so compromise orientated that big things like marijuana legalization can be black balled very easily as no party really has it as their number 1 concern and no party wants to lose negotiating power in order to legalise marijuana.

We could be making billions in tax in Wallonia producing for the lowlands but there is still total ignorance on the subject and the Flemish Right is in a outbidding process as to who can act the toughest on drugs. Meanwhile rich white middle class kids in Antwerp who vote NVA are taking so much cocaine that Antwerp came up twice in the top 10 most cocaine consuming cities and they even found traces of coke in the pidgeons.

We should save Taiwan and nuke Antwerp.
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2021, 09:00:51 PM »
« Edited: October 27, 2021, 09:23:29 PM by Laki »

Hopefully belgium does the same but i doubt it. People are generally morons here.

We should save Taiwan and nuke Antwerp.
Yes, i feel more affinity with Taiwan too than with Antwerp.

Flemish independence frightens me a bit. I would almost always vote no, not because i'm exactly opposed to Flemish independence, but because Flanders is ethically and morally going to be an absolute sh**t country, because Flemish working class people are very intolerant, while the Flemish higher middle class, elderly and elites are very image-conscious and relatively traditional. I think the problem with the Flemish higher class is: "keeping up appearances". One of the reasons why our mental health is terrible and more than 50% of college + university going students suffer from a mental health disorder (we are in the majority) and why Flanders has one of the highest suicide and bullying rates in Europe. On top of that, our people are also quite introverted, not to an extreme sense, but when discussing sensible matters we are, and we are very closed. And it doesn't help that mental health institutions also work in quite a traditional sense, and are not accessible, so are our mental health first access lines and emergency numbers which are more out of reach for the majority of us. If you call 10 times, the likeliest thing to happen is that 10 times no-one will pick up the phone, and i've been in such a situation (and there are articles and one documentary episode dedicated to that). Earlier this month, we also had the case where someone was seen as a terrorist threat, while his entire entourage has repeatedly said, they asked for psychiatric help, while people in psychiatries said there was no place for him since he got 18 years old and no reason for him to be taken inpatient.

 I'm very grateful we have Walloons to steer our political debate less to the right.

It also feels so wrong that in general, most people feel morally superior to Walloons and always think Flanders should come first because of financial matters.

We also are in some sense already separated due to the confederal state. And there is a language and culture barrier, so I get why some people feel no real affinity to Walloons, so do I, but it's mostly the language barrier, and it sucks so much because it is hard to learn french (it's a different language family). It feels we're separated to such an extent already. I never have to be in Wallonia for some reason, so.. if i'm there, it's basically travelling to a foreign country. It really sucks there is that language barrier. It really sucks. All my experiences with Walloons i had in my life were so good. One Walloon woman helped me so much when as a kid i went with my bike to wallonia and overestimated my own capabilities (when I got a hunger knock), and i couldn't ride my bike to my home as it was still multiple tens of km (and the hunger knock was there already for a while) and she basically did a lot at the time. I mean all of those experiences with every walloon is great, and i really felt sorry for the flood disaster this summer.

I think that ride with my bike was in 2011. I went from Oudenaarde to Tournai via the Schelde and rode Mont St Aubert, than I went to Brunehaut and than returned through Antoing but I got the hunger knock there somewhere, and i rode to some town north of Tournai, i think it was Mourcourt.

It's a beautiful region, but I did that, because I complained a lot i never saw something different in my life, always the same streets, always the same houses, so i'd like to explore, so I made multiple cycling rides, to explore, not because I'm good in cycling, and I always went south (mostly). Over time, i learned to drive in "circles" so when something happens i'm closer to home, but that causes me to not go further than i want to, and explore new territories i haven't seen.

Also Mont St Aubert was relatively close to where I lived, but unusual, since it's a much longer climb than any of the hills closer at home (which are short, but tough, sometimes covered with cobblestones). Mont St Aubert is much longer and the closest thing to a mountain close to home. (it's called cote de la croix jubaru)

Wow i just read that it is number 731 in hardest climbs of the world with a bicycle... That's weird since i did this at the age of 15 and barely even rode a bike at the time.
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