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« on: September 19, 2021, 09:52:31 PM »

Fall Out Boy of course. They produced two of the best pop-punk albums ever made, and no matter how bad they get now nothing can erase that. There is no Catholic music that can even hold a candle to the first two Fall Out Boy albums.
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2021, 09:56:21 PM »

Voted the latter because BRTD selected the former.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2021, 09:58:23 PM »

You can have my Gregorian chants when you pry them from my cold dead hands.

However, you can also have my (old) Fall Out Boy when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

Didn't vote.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2021, 10:00:00 PM »

 BRTD, what is it with you and Catholicism? I'm no fan of it myself, I'm just curious as to why you seem to detest it so much.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2021, 10:07:23 PM »

Catholicism.


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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2021, 10:10:35 PM »

Noi Vogliam Dio is better than anything Fall Out Boy has ever imagined.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2021, 10:11:14 PM »

BRTD, what is it with you and Catholicism? I'm no fan of it myself, I'm just curious as to why you seem to detest it so much.
It's a very poor fit for my subculture, to put it mildly. And people here have weird attitudes about it and that no one EVER leaves it...even though there are many people at my church alone that did. It's just perplexing.
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2021, 10:12:26 PM »

BRTD, what is it with you and Catholicism? I'm no fan of it myself, I'm just curious as to why you seem to detest it so much.

Catholicism won't let him stare at the toes of his naked cleaners.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2021, 10:12:55 PM »

BRTD, what is it with you and Catholicism? I'm no fan of it myself, I'm just curious as to why you seem to detest it so much.

It's a very poor fit for my subculture, to put it mildly.

Protestantism isn't a f**king subculture.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2021, 10:13:54 PM »

BRTD, what is it with you and Catholicism? I'm no fan of it myself, I'm just curious as to why you seem to detest it so much.

It's a very poor fit for my subculture, to put it mildly.

Protestantism isn't a f**king subculture.
Not really today (you could make an argument for it in 16th century Europe), but I'm referring to DIY Hardcore/Punk/Emo.
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2021, 10:21:43 PM »
« Edited: September 19, 2021, 10:25:41 PM by we're busy touching till we're dizzy stupid »

To elaborate, a big factor initially when the scene developed was being positive and rejecting a lot of the negative messages and nihilism in rock music at the time, (this is a big part of why straightedge developed, even though I am not straightedge of course, but they were about rejecting drug use and alcohol as part of this), which is also part of why so many Christians were into it starting in the 90s. This is also why you saw so much hostility at that time toward metal music in it (because metal promoted violence and nihilism and negative things*) and rap (which promoted drug use and violence*) However this also led to opposition to racism**, sexism***, homophobia and abusive authority. The latter three are kind of inseparable from Catholicism, making it kind of an oil and water sort of thing, and thus why you didn't see any Catholics in it and anyone who was raised as such would either convert to some other type of Christianity or Hare Krishna if it was the 80s (see Shelter) or of course simply "none" and be an atheist/agnostic. That's an extreme oversimplification obviously and I could probably write a whole script for a documentary on this, but it gives you the rough idea.

*Before you all flip out and scream about how this is not what rap and metal are all about...dial your clock back to the mid-90s, because that's the time frame I'm referring to.

**Yes, I am fully aware of how ironic this is considering the scene is like 90+% white and <1% black.

***Yes, I am aware that there were hypocritical people in bands and involved in the scene who engaged in sexual misconduct and abuse, unfortunately that's a problem everywhere.
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2021, 10:40:28 PM »

The answer to this is obvious, though tbf Catholicism had like a 1600+ year head start.
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2021, 12:05:55 AM »

Catholic Christianity has inspired some of the greatest music ever created by mankind, which makes it all the more shame that the Church has historically been so bigoted and reactionary.
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2021, 12:08:55 AM »

Catholic Christianity has inspired some of the greatest music ever created by mankind
What pop-punk, emo or melodic hardcore music has Catholicism ever inspired?
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2021, 12:16:52 AM »

Catholic Christianity has inspired some of the greatest music ever created by mankind
What pop-punk, emo or melodic hardcore music has Catholicism ever inspired?

None that I am aware of, but even if you're limiting it to music made in the past few decades or so (which is an absurdly narrow time frame given all of human history), those are far from the best music genres when post-punk, new wave, and alternative rock exist.
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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2021, 01:30:09 AM »

So for future reference, you might want to wait until your sect is at least a millennia old before you start trying to compare cultural legacies.
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2021, 02:17:19 AM »

Fall Out Boy was my favorite band in middle school. They've still got some great stuff so I have to go with BRTD on this one. On a day-to-day basis I listen to them much more often than Catholic religious music.
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2021, 02:38:45 AM »

There is FWIW one Catholic pop-punk song I've heard, and it's actually not bad, although it's nowhere near the best of the genre and certainly not on par with the first two FOB records.


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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2021, 05:38:46 AM »

Fall Out Boy is a Catholic band (from Chicago)
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2021, 06:05:38 AM »

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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2021, 08:34:10 AM »


Thank you Cathcon! Very cool!
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2021, 09:11:24 AM »

Do you mean like church music or just any song written by a Catholic?
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2021, 12:16:13 PM »

Do you mean like church music or just any song written by a Catholic?
I was thinking of the former but honestly I can't think of any good music written by Catholics either.
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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2021, 12:43:04 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2021, 01:15:22 PM »

Do you mean like church music or just any song written by a Catholic?
I was thinking of the former but honestly I can't think of any good music written by Catholics either.
Are you serious right now?

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