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Computer89
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« on: September 18, 2021, 05:27:41 PM »

He’s very misunderstood by many posters on here , and actually is a very principled poster on here who if he was a legislator I could see him working better with the other side than many on here .


He also is a good buddy of mine on  here and is definitely an FF
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Computer89
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E: 3.42, S: 2.61

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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2021, 01:01:37 PM »

That much comes through loud and clear if you take the time to actually have a good-faith conversation with him.  I think he’s gotten a lot more rigid and dogmatic of late, but I suspect that’s at least partly a reaction to the fact that half of Atlas turns into an angry mob whenever he posts something.  Fuzzy has gotten a lot of undeserved OTT vitriol from certain folks over the years and I can understand how that might leave someone more than a little embittered. 

I’ll also add that Nix (I think it was him) once observed that Fuzzy has this weird knack for inadvertently exposing some of the worst traits of his most vocal critics and that’s definitely true. 


It absolutely is this cause even in the timeframe where many on here say they thought Fuzzy was good, posters like ProudModerate and red avatar hacks on US Gen Discussion would attack him in a super vicious way and would not even try to understand the points he was making.

Like take immigration for a sense , where many thought Fuzzy was super super right-wing on the issue due to how his debates with ProudModerate and red avatar hacks went but when you actually had a reasonable and fair debate with him , you would realize that wasn't the case at all. He actually was in favor of a pathway to citizenship for many illegal immigrants as long as you have strong border security and remove the incentives for coming here illegally which btw is a position to the left of me.


The fact is these posters though didn't have any interest whatsoever in debating Fuzzy or really any blue avatar and instead want to try to destroy anyone who disagrees with their democratic hack talking points. The difference is the vast majority of this forum is left of center so they sympathized with the posters they viewed on their team and further piled on Fuzzy in a super unfair way. The behavior of these hacks have driven many blue avatars of atlas and onto atlas discord servers




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OSR stands with Israel
Computer89
Atlas Legend
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Posts: 44,767


Political Matrix
E: 3.42, S: 2.61

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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2021, 01:08:28 PM »

That much comes through loud and clear if you take the time to actually have a good-faith conversation with him.  I think he’s gotten a lot more rigid and dogmatic of late, but I suspect that’s at least partly a reaction to the fact that half of Atlas turns into an angry mob whenever he posts something.  Fuzzy has gotten a lot of undeserved OTT vitriol from certain folks over the years and I can understand how that might leave someone more than a little embittered. 

I’ll also add that Nix (I think it was him) once observed that Fuzzy has this weird knack for inadvertently exposing some of the worst traits of his most vocal critics and that’s definitely true. 


It absolutely is this cause even in the timeframe where many on here say they thought Fuzzy was good, posters like ProudModerate and red avatar hacks on US Gen Discussion would attack him in a super vicious way and would not even try to understand the points he was making.

Like take immigration for a sense , where many thought Fuzzy was super super right-wing on the issue due to how his debates with ProudModerate and red avatar hacks went but when you actually had a reasonable and fair debate with him , you would realize that wasn't the case at all. He actually was in favor of a pathway to citizenship for many illegal immigrants as long as you have strong border security and remove the incentives for coming here illegally which btw is a position to the left of me.


The fact is these posters though didn't have any interest whatsoever in debating Fuzzy or really any blue avatar and instead want to try to destroy anyone who disagrees with their democratic hack talking points. The difference is the vast majority of this forum is left of center so they sympathized with the posters they viewed on their team and further piled on Fuzzy in a super unfair way. The behavior of these hacks have driven many blue avatars of atlas and onto atlas discord servers






The irony.

Yes you are one of the posters I am talking about when I say red avatar hacks
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OSR stands with Israel
Computer89
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Posts: 44,767


Political Matrix
E: 3.42, S: 2.61

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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2021, 09:03:37 PM »

Despite the fact that we strongly differ on things like Trump and the BLM movement, I've always had a great deal of respect for Fizzy.  He's always treated me with courtesy!


Keep in mind Fuzzy is a strong opponent of the death penalty , and is against the type of sentencing we hand out for drug users . So I’d say he’s pretty liberal on the issue itself , and what he doesn’t like it self was the unrest they caused last summer  plus other things they advocate for other then criminal justice reform
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