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penttilinkolafan
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« on: September 18, 2021, 09:59:26 AM »

So, no gorbachev but you get someone willing to tinker around enough to keep the soviets afloat to the present. Not "keep up or surpass the west" but keeping the ussr+warsaw pact around as a thing and able to stir the pot in the third world.

How do US politics realign differently than in our world? Besides the obvious stuff like HW winning in 1992 and Clinton not getting near the nomination then because he's not "serious" enough. Besides HW Bush winning reelection in '92, California shifting D slower(no big 80s or 90s base closures+defense contractor factories remaining in place) and the US/broader west's capitalist classes not able to get as greedy/short term minded with a communist threat in being to keep an eye on. I've got my own ideas besides these OBVIOUS ones, but am curious for how others think it'd go.
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penttilinkolafan
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2021, 02:12:04 PM »

Eh, for starters imo no dukakis but instead someone more credible who probably loses. Hm, you might see clinton as VP for Bentsen or whoever runs in '88.
No dukakis loss to react against imo makes clinton even less credible. My guess is his atl record of being a scandal-prone vp candidate in '88 is enough to sink him in the primaries.
I guess Bradley or Nunn is the dem who loses in '92.

yugoslav war? maybe, although I guess the soviets help shore up the yugoslav government with yugoslavia becoming a soviet ally again.

Any war on terror/muslim issues would probably be hitting the ussr/china due to well, the afghanistan thing along with how china treats the uyghurs
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penttilinkolafan
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2021, 05:00:17 PM »

eh, gorby was major de-escalating things by then. sure, the ussr wasn't visibly falling then but the cold war was in the process of severely de-escalating. remember, the russians were withdrawing from afghanistan then.

in this atl? no withdrawal and reagan's approach got well jack sh**t in resuilts
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