Which Party System Would You Prefer (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 28, 2024, 05:44:46 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  Individual Politics (Moderator: The Dowager Mod)
  Which Party System Would You Prefer (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Poll
Question: ?
#1
Trumpist GOP/Berniecrat Democratic Party
 
#2
Romneyite GOP/Clintonite Democratic Party
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 71

Author Topic: Which Party System Would You Prefer  (Read 991 times)
H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,400
Korea, Republic of


Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

« on: September 17, 2021, 04:20:53 AM »

If forced to choose between one of the following party systems which would you choose?

[1] Here, Trumpism and indeed the most extreme forms thereof take over the Republican Party completely. National level Republican politicians openly endorse conspiracy theories regarding election fraud, vaccine denialism, opposition to any kind of Covid restrictions etc. Nearly any election won by Democrats are met by cries of fraud and the Republicans attack the legitimacy of most institutions ranging from higher education to the military claiming them to be the tools of the "Deep State" and thoroughly infiltrated by wokeness. The Republican Party becomes ferociously nativist and openly advocates mass deportations/immigration bans for many countries. Note that the Republican Party does not meaningfully become more left-wing economically or opposed to foreign wars since their primary obsession is now with "owning the libs". Indeed, inasmuch Trump is criticized it is for some of his relatively "liberal" stances such as some support for vaccination etc. Conversely, Berniecrats take over the Democratic Party. The Democrats fully embrace a universal welfare state and make single-payer the goal for universal healthcare along with marijuana legalization, free college etc. Concerns regarding the deficit recede to the background as the party advocates for vigourous spending on infrastructure and elsewhere. The Democratic Party retains some divides on cultural issues and "wokeness", despite moving solidly to the left on economic issues.

[2] Here the clock is seemingly turned back to 2000. The Republicans remain broadly pro-life and socially conservative but fully reject conspiracy theories by backing Covid vaccination efforts and no longer claiming election fraud. The Republicans also move slightly to the center on the economy, by advocating for some infrastructure fraud etc. Immigration is another issue where GOP views become liberalized and the party fully rejects nativism in favour of civic nationalism and integrating new immigrants into American life. However, the Democrats move to the right. It's important to note this is not the centre-left politics of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden but rather a modernized throwback to Bill Clinton's presidency of the 1990s. As a result Democrats become much more obsessed with the deficit and reluctant to fund large-scale social spending. Mark Warner, Stephanie Murphy, or Kurt Schrader become the mainstream of the party on bread and butter issues. As with 1, Democrats remain divided somewhat on cultural issues between woke and anti-woke factions. The main difference from 20 years ago is that both parties are somewhat more cautious on foreign policy due to the experience of Iraq.
Logged
H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,400
Korea, Republic of


Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2021, 07:13:47 PM »

The first one. Very easy choice for me considering I have always favored Trump over Romney and obviously massively prefer Sanders over Clinton.

Why the bolded, if I may ask? They are both equally economically plutocratic (Trump actually arguably even more so), but Romney has the advantage of at least showing a modicum of respect for democracy and the rule of law.

More polarizing and less competent, so less likely to do harm.
Logged
H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,400
Korea, Republic of


Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2021, 02:10:53 AM »

Cultists vs. communists or normal people? Easy choice, Romney/Clinton

Muscular social democracy isn't "communism" lol
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.022 seconds with 13 queries.