your ideal county (politically)

[ottermax]

None of course; the words 'Ideal' and 'Politically' are by their very natures oxymorons. Politics is a challenge to the problems of reality.

In saying that the county I would stand out the least in would be somewhere in Upper New England. Perhaps whatever county Burlington, VT is in. But still American culture even in it's 'liberal' areas still strikes me as a very conformist one; and that is an issue that goes deeper than simple politics. (Which operates only on the simplest level of reality: simple arbitary power.)

Chittenden County

[memphis]

Mutnomah, OR

[angus]

Probably Alameda, California. Dane, Wisconsin and King, Washington would be up there too.

I lived in Alameda county for three years.  Nice climate.  Actually, for what it's worth, I found I vote more like a californian than like a typical resident of any other state I lived in.  Before living in California I lived in Boston for five years and in the Dallas/Fort Worth area for five years.  Since living in California I have lived in Columbus, Mississippi, in New York City, and in Cedar Falls, Iowa.  And Alameda County was the only place where the majority of voters on the Yes/No questions voted with me a majority of the time.  That never happened in Massachusetts, Texas, or anywhere else.  But in California, I'd often be five out of six, or sometimes even six out of six, in my side winning the yes/no questions.  Not the offices, mind you.  My guys were usually third-party or unaffiliated guys, so of course they never won.  But on the questions I was in the majority a majority of the time.  So I guess I'd have to admit that by at least that criterion Alameda County is more ideal for me (politically) than anywhere else I've lived.

[bayguy]

I'm surprised how people vote for Alameda so much. Alameda has a relatively large number of conservatives. I would imagine ncliberal and BRTD would pick Marin county... the only really renound liberal cities in Alameda are probably Oakland, Berkeley, San Leandro, San Lorenzo, and some of the wealthier areas like Castro Valley. But Pleasenton, San Ramon, Livermore, and even Hayward are quite conservative.

My ideal county is probably Tulare county, CA. But where would I like to live? Somewhere around the DC area in Virginia. So probably Fairfax.

old thread but i found it in a search.  i would not even come close to saying any part of alameda county is "quite conservative".  even those suburban towns you listed.  maybe compared to the rest of the bay area they are conservative.  the county voted 79 percent for obama and every single town and city in the county voted against proposition 8, the ban on same-sex marriage, except for union city.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

I was born in Middlesex County, Massachusetts. It's actually my favorite county too, if we were to remove that last word from the topic of course. I've no idea what my ideal county is politically though.

[useful idiot]

Probably somewhere in Western PA or the Upper Midwest. A place where there are a lot of small town pro-life/pro-gun folks that are union-friendly, anti-war, and economically very left leaning all around.

Any ideas anyone?

[perdedor]

Travis County, TX

[fezzyfestoon]

Oh man, that's too hard.  I'd guess somewhere in the Pacific Northwest or New England.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Cheshire County, New Hampshire or Addison County, Vermont

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Cheshire County, New Hampshire or Addison County, Vermont

2 >60% Obama counties?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Probably somewhere in Western PA or the Upper Midwest. A place where there are a lot of small town pro-life/pro-gun folks that are union-friendly, anti-war, and economically very left leaning all around.

Any ideas anyone?

Places in northern Minnesota like Lake, Koochiching and St. Louis (minus Duluth which is just your typical urban liberals) counties apply.

[Torie]

Oh gosh. I have no idea. Maybe Litchfield County, Conn, or San Luis Obispo County in California? Lake County, Illinois? 

[CatoMinor]

Cheshire County, New Hampshire, or Bremer County, Iowa

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Bremer County, Iowa

Kind of a random pick.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Cheshire County, New Hampshire or Addison County, Vermont

2 >60% Obama counties?

Well I could have also said Grafton County, but that too is a >60% Obama county...

[Хahar 🤔]

Alameda seems fine. Noted socialist Ron Dellums is the Mayor of Oakland.

[bayguy]

NIK, i know southern alameda is not overwhelmingly liberal and although it may be the most conservative part of alameda county, i still would not call it conservative.  i agree south alameda county votes however the wind blows specifically cities like pleasanton and livermore but congressional district 9 (berkeley and oakland) overpowers however southern alameda county votes.  mccain only received 7 percent of the vote in oakland and not even 5 percent of the vote in berkeley.

[Derek]

system of checks and balances with

No income tax
No death tax
No marriage tax
Government funded by user fees and VAT
Absolute free trade
Very low if any tariffs
Balanced budget amendment
Right to work nation

No abortions except in extreme cases
Allow states to decide on gay marriage
Federal funding for stem cell research
No death penalty
No human cloning
No euthanasia
Stop testing on harmless animals.
In God We Trust on penny
Under God in Pledge of Allegiance
Voluntary school prayer
Parents choose schools with vouchers
Continue and expand affirmative action

Leave the UN and form FU for Federations United
Sanctions against North Korea and Iran
Expand NASA and space exploration
5% pay increase for soldiers
Bridge the CIA and FBI together for information sharing
Find Bin Laden!!!
Keep security strong across the US
Open borders

Lower president's salary to $250,000
Lower congressmens' pay to $100,000
Across the board 20% spending cuts except defense
25% pay cut for all government employees
Mandate campaign finance reform for all federal offices
Term limits of 12 years in the House, 12 in the Senate, 2 terms as president
Ban soft money from corporations and unions

Find new energy sources
Continue cap and trade
No arctic drilling
Just say no to Kyoto
Crack down on Mercury clean up
Expand some environmental regulations
Make EPA an Executive Department

Eliminate preexisting conditions for healthcare denial
Allow ppl to stay on their parents' insurance until age 25.
Allow health insurance companies to compete across state lines.
Limit frivolous law suits to $500,000 per case.
Provide optional health and medical savings accounts.

Continue social security with a lockbox
Continue medicare for seniors
Continue medicaid for the poor
6 month term limits for welfare recipients
6 month term limits for unemployment benefits
Must choose between unemployment benefits and welfare
End farm subsidies to reduce costs and increase competition.
Provide food stamps for the poor.

I wrote 50 pages on all these things so I apologize for sounding so vague and brief. So you see, I'm not a right wing nut after all. lol

[Edu]

County, not Country.

[fezzyfestoon]

system of checks and balances with

No income tax
No death tax
No marriage tax
Government funded by user fees and VAT
Absolute free trade
Very low if any tariffs
Balanced budget amendment
Right to work nation

No abortions except in extreme cases
Allow states to decide on gay marriage
Federal funding for stem cell research
No death penalty
No human cloning
No euthanasia
Stop testing on harmless animals.
In God We Trust on penny
Under God in Pledge of Allegiance
Voluntary school prayer
Parents choose schools with vouchers
Continue and expand affirmative action

Leave the UN and form FU for Federations United
Sanctions against North Korea and Iran
Expand NASA and space exploration
5% pay increase for soldiers
Bridge the CIA and FBI together for information sharing
Find Bin Laden!!!
Keep security strong across the US
Open borders

Lower president's salary to $250,000
Lower congressmens' pay to $100,000
Across the board 20% spending cuts except defense
25% pay cut for all government employees
Mandate campaign finance reform for all federal offices
Term limits of 12 years in the House, 12 in the Senate, 2 terms as president
Ban soft money from corporations and unions

Find new energy sources
Continue cap and trade
No arctic drilling
Just say no to Kyoto
Crack down on Mercury clean up
Expand some environmental regulations
Make EPA an Executive Department

Eliminate preexisting conditions for healthcare denial
Allow ppl to stay on their parents' insurance until age 25.
Allow health insurance companies to compete across state lines.
Limit frivolous law suits to $500,000 per case.
Provide optional health and medical savings accounts.

Continue social security with a lockbox
Continue medicare for seniors
Continue medicaid for the poor
6 month term limits for welfare recipients
6 month term limits for unemployment benefits
Must choose between unemployment benefits and welfare
End farm subsidies to reduce costs and increase competition.
Provide food stamps for the poor.

I wrote 50 pages on all these things so I apologize for sounding so vague and brief. So you see, I'm not a right wing nut after all. lol

Yeah, that sounds like some kind of unstable South American "Democracy".

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Cheshire County, New Hampshire or Addison County, Vermont

2 >60% Obama counties?

Well I could have also said Grafton County, but that too is a >60% Obama county...

But I don't get why you like such counties so much.

I thought you hated Obama with a passion, and >50% is already bad enough

[Vepres]

Yellowstone, MT
Spokane, WA
Sandoval, NM
Mesa, CO

Probably any of the southeast NH counties too.

[Derek]

Cheshire County, New Hampshire or Addison County, Vermont

2 >60% Obama counties?

Well I could have also said Grafton County, but that too is a >60% Obama county...

But I don't get why you like such counties so much.

I thought you hated Obama with a passion, and >50% is already bad enough

What do you mean?

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Cheshire County, New Hampshire or Addison County, Vermont

2 >60% Obama counties?

Well I could have also said Grafton County, but that too is a >60% Obama county...

But I don't get why you like such counties so much.

I thought you hated Obama with a passion, and >50% is already bad enough

What do you mean?

I don't get why those counties are the "ideal counties" (from a political perspective!) of Libertas.

[Tuck!]

Not entirely sure, maybe Essex or Middlesex County? Maybe Delaware or Suffolk County? Tough choice.