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NOVA Green
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« on: September 18, 2021, 04:48:10 PM »

Looks like the Australians dropped the ball with the French, since the Australians said they would be the ones communicating with the French over the contract change.

New York times story:


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Secret Talks and a Hidden Agenda: Behind the U.S. Defense Deal That France Called a ‘Betrayal’

In meeting after meeting with their French counterparts, U.S. officials gave no heads-up about their plans to upend France’s largest defense contract.

The United States and Australia went to extraordinary lengths to keep Paris in the dark as they secretly negotiated a plan to build nuclear submarines, scuttling France’s largest defense contract and so enraging President Emmanuel Macron that on Friday he ordered the withdrawal of France’s ambassadors to both nations.

Mr. Macron’s decision was a stunning and unexpected escalation of the breach between Washington and Paris, on a day that the two countries had planned to celebrate an alliance that goes back to the defeat of Britain in the Revolutionary War.

Yet it was driven by France’s realization that two of its closest allies have been negotiating secretly for months. According to interviews with American and British officials, the Australians approached the new administration soon after President Biden’s inauguration and said they had concluded that they had to get out of a $60 billion agreement with France to supply them with a dozen attack submarines.

The conventionally powered French subs, the Australians feared, would be obsolete by the time they were delivered. They expressed interest in seeking a fleet of quieter nuclear-powered submarines based on American and British designs that could patrol areas of the South China Sea with less risk of detection.

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“They told us they would take care of dealing with the French,” one senior U.S. official said.

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The Australians, by all accounts, never made clear to the French that they were preparing to cancel the deal, which had taken years to negotiate.







https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/us/politics/us-france-australia-betrayal.html
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2021, 12:55:19 AM »

Ummm....

Maybe the US could just supply much higher quality subs at a cheaper cost than France and Australia chose to cut their losses on the T&Cs with their French Contract?

Usually the most obvious explanation is the best--- really is anybody actually arguing about the quality of US vs French Nuclear Subs?

Anybody who believe French will do better---- raise your hand now.
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