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« on: September 16, 2021, 05:11:46 AM »

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-16/australia-nuclear-submarines-us-uk-aukus/100466078

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-16/australia-us-uk-nuclear-option-china-morrison-biden/100466150

"Within a decade or so, the Royal Australian Navy's nuclear-powered submarine fleet will be a structural part of America's Indo-Pacific pivot.

Its main task will be to counter increased militarisation of the crowded and highly contested seas to Australia's north, west and east. "


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-16/why-australia-wants-nuclear-submarines/100466204

"Australia has announced the most significant change in its defence and strategic direction in decades – a plan to make the Navy's next submarine fleet nuclear-powered.

It means a $90 billion program to build 12 French-designed diesel-powered submarines will now be scrapped, prompting many to ask – why are we doing this? "


Bring on the nukes.
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2021, 01:37:44 AM »


So individualistic in the selfish behaviour.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-18/france-withdraws-ambassadors-over-submarines-deal/100473106

World's biggest spoilt brats who rate themselves way higher than their batting average.
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2021, 12:44:23 AM »

where are our French/Francophile posters?

Are you referring to 10 May 1940?
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2021, 08:25:30 AM »
« Edited: September 21, 2021, 08:32:03 AM by Meclazine »

where are our French/Francophile posters?

Are you referring to 10 May 1940?
no, just wanting to get an opinion on the current issue from someone who likes France

Um....well.

I am yet to move on from the Battle of Agincourt in 1415.

And the Rainbow Warrior bombing in New Zealand was basically terrorism.
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2021, 03:13:15 AM »
« Edited: September 25, 2021, 03:19:49 AM by Meclazine »

Ummm....

Maybe the US could just supply much higher quality subs at a cheaper cost than France and Australia chose to cut their losses on the T&Cs with their French Contract?

Usually the most obvious explanation is the best--- really is anybody actually arguing about the quality of US vs French Nuclear Subs?

Anybody who believe French will do better---- raise your hand now.

France had been working for 6-8 years and achieved nothing and spent $2Bn. We cut our losses.

The US product is simply better quality and more cost effective.

Time for France to fold up their BBQ and take their bat and ball and go home.
 
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2021, 08:59:55 AM »
« Edited: September 25, 2021, 09:13:06 AM by Meclazine »

French interests in the Indo-Pacific are New Caledonia, which China right now is pushing to declare independence for their own purposes.
Because of nickel. Unusual for Pacific islands, New Caledonia is blessed with 25% of all the planet's nickel reserves. (I'm also under the impression/assumption nickel is a big factor as to why New Caledonia hasn't previously gained independence)

As a Nickel geologist, that is simply not true.

Vale has withdrawn the Ni resource as it is an uneconomic laterite deposit. Meaning it is now zero.

To publish a mineral resource, it must have the possibility of being extracted and developed economically.

Even if New Caledonia were economic, and that can be switched back on, it would be less than 10% of global Ni reserves.

Australia has the largest volume of Ni 'resources'.

Russia have the biggest single undeveloped Ni 'resource' and will have for years to come given the nature of the Ni mineralisation at the Norilsk deposit.

China has much better Ni resources in it's own backyard than what is in New Caledonia.

Keep in mind that if a country says it has 10% of the world's reserves of a mineral, they may only have 1% as most companies don't publish total underground resources. Only the amounts they may plan to get in the next 5 years.

New Caledonia nickel is all surface resources.
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2021, 03:44:57 PM »

Macron can go back and look at his empty shipyard with no orders.

France was falling behind on the initial contract and were sacked.

Macron does not want to admit that their work was crap. So he goes on the offensive with smoke and mirrors.

France carry on like perfectionists, but when it comes to military technology, the US are far superior.
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2021, 01:32:54 AM »

Macron can go back and look at his empty shipyard with no orders.

France was falling behind on the initial contract and were sacked.

Macron does not want to admit that their work was crap. So he goes on the offensive with smoke and mirrors.

France carry on like perfectionists, but when it comes to military technology, the US are far superior.

I suspect those submarines will find an EU buyer.

3 years into the contract, the French had not built a single thing, part or otherwise. The forecast for an operational Submarine was 2040.

Then they were sacked. under the terms of the contract which made them look incompetent.

Macron is a fraud.
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