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darklordoftech
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« on: September 15, 2021, 06:48:07 PM »
« edited: September 15, 2021, 06:51:11 PM by darklordoftech »

For me:

1932: Roosevelt
1936: Roosevelt
1940: Roosevelt
1944: Roosevelt
1948: Truman

1952: Eisenhower
1956: Kefauver
1960: Unsure
1964: Johnson
1968: Muskie
1972: Eagleton/Shriver
1976: Carter
1980: Mondale
1984: Ferraro
1988: Bentsen
1992: Clinton

1996: Kemp
2000: Lieberman
2004: Edwards
2008: Obama
2012: Obama
2016: Kaine
2020: Biden
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2021, 08:55:12 PM »

idk if I'd vote for Pence, probably not just because theocracy is wack

Kaine is superior to Trump for sure

def would vote for Paul Ryan

don't think I could vote for Sarah Palin

I hate John Edwards

Lieberman is better than Gore but I'd still have to go for Bush

idk anything about Kemp but i'm sure he was better than Clinton

Quayle is better than Clinton

idk who Dukakis running mate was
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2021, 09:36:44 PM »

Democrat for all but 1952 and maybe 1956 and (without hindsight) 1972.
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2021, 10:24:33 PM »

This is an oddly specific what-if, but I'll humor it. Democrats all the way down except 1952 and maybe the Bush elections (and even then I go for LaDuke in 2000 and Camejo in 2004, assuming the Nader tickets don't stay Nader). Just for fun, here's the universe in which this occurs, ignoring any obvious points of divergence that would come from this and focusing solely on causing the losing VP nominees to become the losing presidential nominees.

1928-1928: Herbert Hoover ‡ / Charles Curtis (elect)
1929-1933: Charles Curtis / vacant
1933-1941: Franklin D. Roosevelt    / John N. Garner
1941-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt    / Henry Wallace
1945-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt † / Harry S. Truman
1945-1949: Harry S. Truman / vacant
1949-1953: Harry S. Truman / Alben Barkley
1953-1961: Dwight D. Eisenhower / Henry Cabot Lodge Jr.
1961-1963: John F. Kennedy ‡ / Lyndon B. Johnson
1963-1965: Lyndon B. Johnson / vacant
1965-1969: Lyndon B. Johnson / Edmund Muskie
1969-1973: Richard Nixon    / Spiro Agnew *
1973-1973: Richard Nixon    / vacant
1973-1974: Richard Nixon * / Bob Dole
1974-1974: Bob Dole / vacant
1974-1977: Bob Dole / Nelson Rockefeller
1977-1979: Jimmy Carter ‡ / Walter Mondale
1979-1979: Walter Mondale / vacant
1979-1981: Walter Mondale / Shirley Chisholm
1981-1989: Ronald Reagan / George Bush
1989-1992: George Bush † / Dan Quayle
1992-1992: Dan Quayle / vacant
1992-1993: Dan Quayle / Carroll Campbell
1993-2001: Bill Clinton / Joe Lieberman
2001-2009: George W. Bush / Dick Cheney
2009-2017: Barack Obama / Joe Biden
2017-2020: Donald Trump ** / Mike Pence
2020-2020: Mike Pence / vacant
2020-2021: Mike Pence / Nikki Haley
2021-2025: Joe Biden / Kamala Harris
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2021, 12:53:23 AM »

1932: Roosevelt
1936: Roosevelt
1940: Roosevelt
1944: Roosevelt
1948: Truman

1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Lodge

1964: LBJ
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Dole
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush

1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton (Even though I’d want to vote for Kemp)
2000: Bush
2004: Bush

2008: Obama 
2012: Ryan
2016: Kaine
2020: Pence
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2021, 02:43:49 AM »

1932: Roosevelt
1936: Roosevelt
1940: Roosevelt
1944: Roosevelt
1948: Truman

1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Muskie
1972: Nixon
1976: Carter
1980: Mondale
1984: Ferraro
1988: Bentsen
1992: Clinton

1996: Clinton
2000: Lieberman
2004: Bush
2008: Obama
2012: Obama
2016: Kaine
2020: Biden
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2021, 08:49:52 AM »

1932: Roosevelt
1936: Roosevelt
1940: Roosevelt
1944: Roosevelt
1948: Truman

1952: Eisenhower
1956: Kefauver
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Muskie
1972: Shriver
1976: Carter
1980: Mondale
1984: Mondale
1988: Bentsen
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Lieberman
2004: Edwards
2008: Obama
2012: Obama
2016: Kaine
2020: Biden
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2021, 01:15:09 PM »

1932: FDR
1936: FDR
1940: FDR
1944: FDR
1948: Truman

1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower

1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson

1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Dole
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush

1992: Clinton
1996: Kemp
2000: Bush
2004: Bush

2008: Obama
2012: Ryan
2016: Trump
2020: Pence
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2021, 02:45:05 PM »

1932: Roosevelt
1936: Roosevelt
1940: Roosevelt
1944: Roosevelt
1948: Truman

1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower

1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Muskie

1972: Nixon
1976: Carter
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush

1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton

2000: Bush
2004: Edwards
2008: Obama
2012: Obama

2016: Trump
2020: Biden
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2021, 08:05:10 AM »

1932: Undecided
1936: DK? Leaning toward Roosevelt at the outset
1940: DK? Leaning toward Roosevelt at the outset
1944: DK? Leaning toward Roosevelt at the outset
1948: Undecided between Warren and Truman
1952: Eisenhower, easily
1956: Lean Eisenhower
1960: DK
1964: Likely Johnson
1968: Undecided
1972: Likely Nixon
1976: Carter
1980: Lean Reagan
1984: Likely Reagan
1988: Likely Bush
1992: Perot
1996: Perot, probably
2000: Bush, easily
2004: Bush w/ hindsight, probably Undecided w/o
2008: Palin
2012: Johnson
2016: w/o hindsight, Kaine
2020: Write-in
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2021, 09:08:20 AM »

Democratic every time, except 1952.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2021, 04:17:05 PM »

2000: Gore
2004: Edwards
2008: Obama
2012: Obama
2016: Trump
2020: Biden
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2021, 10:23:35 PM »

1932: Franklin D. Roosevelt
1936: Franklin D. Roosevelt
1940: Franklin D. Roosevelt
1944: Franklin D. Roosevelt
1948: Earl Warren
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Kennedy
1964: LBJ
1968: Edmund Muskie
1972: Nixon
1976: Bob Dole
1980: Ronald Reagan
1984: Ronald Reagan
1988: George H.W Bush
1992: Dan Quayle
1996: Jack Kemp
2000: George W. Bush
2004: George W. Bush
2008: Obama
2012: Paul Ryan
2016: Tim Kaine
2020: Joe Biden
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2021, 12:00:45 AM »
« Edited: September 20, 2021, 08:45:12 PM by L.D. Smith »

From 1800, 'cuz why not!

1800: Jefferson
1804: Jefferson
1808: Madison
1812: Madison
1816: Monroe

1820: n/a
1824: Crawford
1828: Rush

1832: Jackson
1836: Van Buren

1840: abstain
1844: Frelinghuysen
1848: Taylor

1852: abstain
1856: abstain
1860: Lincoln
1864: Lincoln
1868: Grant
1872: Grant
1876: Hayes
1880: Garfield
1884: Logan
1888: B. Harrison

1892: Weaver
1896 a. The Populist
  b. McKinley
1900: Stevenson
1904: T. Roosevelt
1908: Kern
1912: Wilson
1916: Wilson
1920: F. Roosevelt

1924: LaFollette
1928: Hoover
1932: F. Roosevelt
1936: F. Roosevelt
1940: F. Roosevelt
1944: F. Roosevelt
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Kefauver
1960: Kennedy
1964: L. Johnson
1968: Muskie
1972 a: Eagleton   b: Nixon
1976: Carter

1980: Anderson
1984: Ferraro
1988: Bentsen
1992: B. Clinton

1996: Nader
2000: Nader

2004: Edwards
2008: Obama
2012: Obama
2016: Kaine


2020: Carroll
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2021, 10:59:25 PM »

1932: Ford
1936: Ford
1940: Krueger
1944: Hoopes
1948: Smith
1952: Emery
1956: Cozzini
1960: abstain
1964: abstain
1968: Boutelle
1972: Pulley
1976: Reid
1980: Davis
1984: Davis
1988: Moore
1992: Muñoz
1996: LaDuke
2000: LaDuke
2004: Camejo
2008: Gonzalez
2012: Honkala
2016: Baraka
2020: Walker
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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2021, 11:14:32 PM »

All Democratic with the exceptions of 1952, where I'd vote for Ike, 1980 where I'd vote for John Anderson, 1992 where I'd vote for Ross Perot, 1996/2000 where I'd vote for Ralph Nader and maybe in 2004.
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2021, 11:19:31 PM »
« Edited: September 19, 2021, 11:23:53 PM by darklordoftech »

1980 where I'd vote for John Anderson
Why Anderson over Mondale?
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2021, 11:24:59 PM »

I agree with Anderson's platform more, and I like his record after his presidential run.
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