2004: Ron Paul/Pat Buchanan (R) vs Dennis Kucinich/Mike Gravel (D)

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2004: Ron Paul/Pat Buchanan (R) vs Dennis Kucinich/Mike Gravel (D)

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2004: Ron Paul/Pat Buchanan (R) vs Dennis Kucinich/Mike Gravel (D)

« on: September 02, 2021, 06:08:44 AM »

Unique mavericks who had a strong following but were generally unpopular at the time face off against one another. No third parties. Who wins?

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Re: 2004: Ron Paul/Pat Buchanan (R) vs Dennis Kucinich/Mike Gravel (D)

« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2021, 10:29:45 AM »

Kucinich, whatever popular appeal Buchanan might have had on his own vanishes by being on the bottom of the ticket with a guy who wants to end social security and Gravel is popular enough in his home state to flip it. It'd be something like this:

Kucinich-Gravel 312
Paul-Buchanan 226

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	Re: 2004: Ron Paul/Pat Buchanan (R) vs Dennis Kucinich/Mike Gravel (D) « Reply #2 on: September 02, 2021, 08:25:25 PM »
	« Edited: September 02, 2021, 08:32:23 PM by Soc. Dem Paleocon »

Kucinich stole a lot of Paul's thunder

Kucinich/Gravel: 320 E.V.
Paul/Buchanan: 218 E.V.

Had Kucinich not been on the ticket, I'd predict IA, IN, WV & OH would've flipped at the least with the possibility of MO & FL, while Paul not being on the ticket would've flipped NH and Buchanan not being on the ticket (with Paul as the nominee) would've flipped OR, WA, NV, NM, CO & VA (Because of native-son).

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