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« Reply #75 on: October 11, 2021, 01:00:59 AM »

I'm wondering if he's hoping to get chosen as Kamala Harris' VP in 2024 or 2028 and trying to prevent himself from facing a loss.

He wouldn't be a horrible choice for her.

Kind is probably too white for the Democratic base...

Harris almost has to have a white man as her VP though, her being at the top of the ticket is enough of a statement so they'll be looking for someone that feels safe and reassures swing voters. Also, not sure what 'too white' is supposed to mean.

Joe Biden will be last White Man nominated by the Democratic Party for President or Vice President. The base is going demand exclusively female and minority nominees going forward, and I encourage them to insist on such.
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« Reply #76 on: October 11, 2021, 10:01:32 AM »

I'm wondering if he's hoping to get chosen as Kamala Harris' VP in 2024 or 2028 and trying to prevent himself from facing a loss.

He wouldn't be a horrible choice for her.

Kind is probably too white for the Democratic base...

Harris almost has to have a white man as her VP though, her being at the top of the ticket is enough of a statement so they'll be looking for someone that feels safe and reassures swing voters. Also, not sure what 'too white' is supposed to mean.

Joe Biden will be last White Man nominated by the Democratic Party for President or Vice President. The base is going demand exclusively female and minority nominees going forward, and I encourage them to insist on such.

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« Reply #77 on: October 13, 2021, 01:38:40 PM »

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« Reply #78 on: October 13, 2021, 01:43:29 PM »

I'm wondering if he's hoping to get chosen as Kamala Harris' VP in 2024 or 2028 and trying to prevent himself from facing a loss.

He wouldn't be a horrible choice for her.

Kind is probably too white for the Democratic base...

Harris almost has to have a white man as her VP though, her being at the top of the ticket is enough of a statement so they'll be looking for someone that feels safe and reassures swing voters. Also, not sure what 'too white' is supposed to mean.

Joe Biden will be last White Man nominated by the Democratic Party for President or Vice President. The base is going demand exclusively female and minority nominees going forward, and I encourage them to insist on such.
I disagree.

While I don't foresee any all white male democratic tickets (i.e. Gore-Lieberman or Kerry-Edwards), there will still be more white male candidates on democratic tickets.

I think Harris is likely to pick a white Hispanic or white non-Hispanic male if she gets the nomination.
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« Reply #79 on: October 13, 2021, 04:52:36 PM »

The geography for Democrats in Wisconsin is just brutal! I guess Democrats in WI are more self-packed than I thought because most fair maps simply wouldn't make WI-03 more D-leaning.

It’s ridiculous how blue Dane county is
Is there any official convention against splitting Dane in redistricting? Evers has veto power on the legislature and it'd certainly keep the map at 4D/4R (if not 3D/5R in an R wave).
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« Reply #80 on: October 13, 2021, 07:14:46 PM »

The geography for Democrats in Wisconsin is just brutal! I guess Democrats in WI are more self-packed than I thought because most fair maps simply wouldn't make WI-03 more D-leaning.

It’s ridiculous how blue Dane county is
Is there any official convention against splitting Dane in redistricting? Evers has veto power on the legislature and it'd certainly keep the map at 4D/4R (if not 3D/5R in an R wave).

Since the legislature and Evers likely won't be able to agree on a map, it'll go to the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which currently has a 4R-3D majority, but Justice Hagedorn is known for being fair and non-partisan in regards to election-related cases as he was in regards to all the election litigation from the Trump campaign before and after the year. However while it's unlikely he'd approve a blatant Republican gerrymander, he obviously wouldn't approve a split Dane Democratic one either, and a fair map would probably still end up 6R-2D alas outside of really nasty waves. I actually drew such a map in DRA and it was not only 6 Trump to 2 Biden seats, it was even 6 Walker to 2 Evers seats, even though Evers did much better in rural Wisconsin (Walker did get under 50% in the new WI-1 which removed the Waukesha portion and the successor WI-3, but that still makes the seats at best Lean R in all but the most nasty waves.)
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« Reply #81 on: October 14, 2021, 02:13:18 AM »

I'm wondering if he's hoping to get chosen as Kamala Harris' VP in 2024 or 2028 and trying to prevent himself from facing a loss.

He wouldn't be a horrible choice for her.

Kind is probably too white for the Democratic base...

Harris almost has to have a white man as her VP though, her being at the top of the ticket is enough of a statement so they'll be looking for someone that feels safe and reassures swing voters. Also, not sure what 'too white' is supposed to mean.

Joe Biden will be last White Man nominated by the Democratic Party for President or Vice President. The base is going demand exclusively female and minority nominees going forward, and I encourage them to insist on such.

People were saying as recently as a few months before Biden's nomination that 2012 was the last time a white man would be on the ticket, or that 2004 was the last time a white man would ever be at the top.
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« Reply #82 on: October 14, 2021, 08:36:04 AM »

I'm wondering if he's hoping to get chosen as Kamala Harris' VP in 2024 or 2028 and trying to prevent himself from facing a loss.

He wouldn't be a horrible choice for her.

Kind is probably too white for the Democratic base...

Harris almost has to have a white man as her VP though, her being at the top of the ticket is enough of a statement so they'll be looking for someone that feels safe and reassures swing voters. Also, not sure what 'too white' is supposed to mean.

Joe Biden will be last White Man nominated by the Democratic Party for President or Vice President. The base is going demand exclusively female and minority nominees going forward, and I encourage them to insist on such.

People were saying as recently as a few months before Biden's nomination that 2012 was the last time a white man would be on the ticket, or that 2004 was the last time a white man would ever be at the top.

No one said that about 2004 during the 2000s or 2020s
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« Reply #83 on: October 14, 2021, 09:43:35 AM »

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« Reply #84 on: October 14, 2021, 04:00:48 PM »

He knows what's coming.
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« Reply #85 on: October 17, 2021, 09:25:01 PM »

Come on is their actually talk that DVO will lose WI-03? This race barring something EXTREMELY weird happening in redistricting is lean republican at a minimum and with two such weak dem candidates it’s probably Likely Republican next year.
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« Reply #86 on: October 18, 2021, 01:08:05 AM »

Woah Brad Pfaff actually faced Dan Kapanke back in 2004 as well ! A rematch 16 years later is crazy.
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