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Question: Should Roe V. Wade be overturned?
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Yes and abortions should be banned
 
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Yes
 
#3
No but The Hyde Amendment shouldn't be overturned either
 
#4
No but I support federal funding for abortions with some restrictions
 
#5
No and there should be no restrictions on abortion
 
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Author Topic: Should Roe V. Wade Overturned?  (Read 5047 times)
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« on: December 11, 2021, 12:58:05 PM »
« edited: December 11, 2021, 07:41:53 PM by Big Joey »

Yes, it can be decided on the state level

Truth is, and many people don't know this, but Roe v. Wade was truly a very radical ruling in that it forced all states to allow virtually every abortion right up the third-trimster, even when the fetus is only a little bit different from infants and incredibly unsavory methods have to be used to kill it. Even today 70% of Americans as per Gallup disagree with second-trimester abortions, and Roe v. Wade forces these to occur.

The main reason that Europe doesn't have such a toxic abortion debate isn't that they're more enlightened and liberal than us, but because they've generally come to a moderate position of allowing it until 12 weeks.

EDIT: Fixed thanks to Donerail's correction
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2021, 07:41:08 PM »

Truth is, and many people don't know this, but Roe v. Wade was truly a very radical ruling in that it forced all states to allow every abortion right up until birth, even when the fetus is barely different from infants and incredibly unsavory methods have to be used to kill it. Even today 70% of Americans as per Gallup disagree with third-trimester abortions, and Roe v. Wade forces these to occur.

"Many people don't know this" because it's straight up wrong lmfao
Quote from: Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113, 164-65 (1973)
For the stage subsequent to viability [the third trimester], the State in promoting its interest in the potentiality of human life may, if it chooses, regulate, and even proscribe, abortion except where it is necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother.
Roe explicitly did not "force all states to allow every abortion right up until birth." States are allowed to forbid abortion entirely during the third trimester (claiming Roe "forces these to occur" is wrong), and states are allowed to "regulate the abortion procedure in ways that are reasonably related to maternal health" during the second trimester. The idea that Roe "forced all states to allow every abortion" is just utterly divorced from reality.

Thank you, I stand corrected. I must have been misinformed.

Facts still remain that 70% of Americans say abortion should not be allowed in the second trimester, which every state except Texas and Mississippi currently does only due to Roe v. Wade. And "reasonably related to maternal health" is not strict enough IMHO, and most Americans would agree.


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