PA Dems need John Fetterman to have more than a sliver of a chance to win the states US Senate seat
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« on: August 13, 2021, 07:48:34 PM »

John Fetterman is far and away the most electable Democratic candidate currently running for US Senate in Pennsylvania, and Democrats need him to keep the race substantially competitive, because nobody else in the field is strong enough to do so.
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2021, 07:51:27 PM »

He's gonna win anyways, the same people on this forum that said they want Lamb, had been rooting for Fetterman, Fetterman was leaving ori.ary and GE by large amounts, anyways, it's just users are jumping on this Connor Lamb bandwagon
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2021, 07:51:43 PM »

Completely agreed but why make a thread for this and not use the PA senate thread?
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2021, 07:58:47 PM »

That whole incident he had will make him really problematic with black voters and the GOP will use astro turf to exploit it. Lamb is the right choice.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2021, 07:59:32 PM »

Any proof? At least Lamb has actually overperformed in the past.
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2021, 08:23:27 PM »

This is one giant circular reasoning logical error. John Fetterman is strong because no one else is strong?
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2021, 08:24:11 PM »

No not really

I support Fetterman but he doesn't have a special electability advantage
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2021, 08:24:47 PM »

That's not evidence, that is the claim. He might be the strongest D candidate, but why?
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2021, 12:59:01 AM »

PSA: My favorite candidate whose ideology I like the most is the only “electable” candidate, whereas all others would lose badly. Just thought everyone should know.
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2021, 01:04:30 AM »

John Fetterman is far and away the most electable Democratic candidate currently running for US Senate in Pennsylvania, and Democrats need him to keep the race substantially competitive, because nobody else in the field is strong enough to do so.

As a republican, our best shot is fetterman, so agree?
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2021, 01:38:48 PM »

Hot take (Fetterman fan): Like the FL Governors race, it doesn't matter much who the Dems nominate & who would do "the best" because partisanship means there's probably a 1% margin difference based on who is nominated.

And I'm aware of the "That 1% matters in such a close race" counter-argument
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2021, 02:58:19 PM »

Evidence? How is he electable statewide on his own without Wolf?
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2021, 12:34:13 PM »

Is this a parody of the ridiculous "Republicans need Chris Sununu to run for NH-SEN to have more than a sliver of a chance to flip the Senate" takes? If so, it’s really good (and I did enjoy it).
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2021, 09:12:48 PM »

John Fetterman is far and away the most electable Democratic candidate currently running for US Senate in Pennsylvania, and Democrats need him to keep the race substantially competitive, because nobody else in the field is strong enough to do so.

I wish Pennsylvania would nominate fetterman, hes easily the weakest in the field
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2021, 09:32:20 PM »

Conor Lamb?
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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2021, 09:49:56 PM »

You mean the representative who just underperfomed Biden in an area of the state where downballot Democrats typically outperform presidential totals, and sometimes by a lot? He is not electable at all.
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2021, 09:51:57 PM »
« Edited: August 15, 2021, 09:59:51 PM by Teflon Joe. »


Lamb is probably going to cost Democrats his House seat in 2022 for a long shot primary bid. Fetterman is similar to Lamb, and is not costing Democrats a House seat. With Cheri Bustos and Ron Kind retiring in Trump WWC seats, we need every seat.
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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2021, 10:46:03 PM »


Lamb is probably going to cost Democrats his House seat in 2022 for a long shot primary bid. Fetterman is similar to Lamb, and is not costing Democrats a House seat. With Cheri Bustos and Ron Kind retiring in Trump WWC seats, we need every seat.

Cheri Bustos retiring just gives democrats better opportunities to gerrymander Illinois...
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2021, 10:49:19 PM »

That whole incident he had will make him really problematic with black voters and the GOP will use astro turf to exploit it. Lamb is the right choice.

Astro turfing is a concern for democrats in this race, but a white democrat did point a gun at an innocent black man's chest. Whether it was a misunderstanding or not, it is legitimately problematic.
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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2021, 12:06:17 AM »

How would the GOP astroturf that?  It seems to me Fetterman's criminal justice policy is better than an incident in 2013 whose victim has basically endorsed him despite being wronged. What does that say about Fetterman? I mean I feel like Fetterman was dishonest about it but if you still get someone's support even after that, I'm just saying
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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2021, 01:05:52 AM »

You mean the representative who just underperfomed Biden in an area of the state where downballot Democrats typically outperform presidential totals, and sometimes by a lot? He is not electable at all.
His original seat was like that, but his current PA-17 is D-trending but ancestrally Republican.
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« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2021, 07:15:15 AM »

You mean the representative who just underperfomed Biden in an area of the state where downballot Democrats typically outperform presidential totals, and sometimes by a lot? He is not electable at all.

Notoriously colossal underperformance of *checks notes* 0.4%.
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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2021, 08:02:50 PM »

I think both he and Lamb have different pros that they can bring to the race and win with. I'll leave it to Pennsylvanians to choose. I think both have at least a 50% chance.
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