Oregon Governor Megathread

[Benjamin Frank]

Can’t believe these dumbasses want to put people in prison for drug possession again. Hopefully they fail and fail hard and fast. I live in the freest state in the country and these people can’t think of any cure for social ills besides enhancing the police state.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/mixed-results-oregon-drug-decriminalization/283-0980d8b1-a514-425a-8989-889b027f5a95

Yet in the first year after the new approach took effect in February 2021, only 1% of people who received citations for possessing controlled substances asked for help via a new hotline.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/the-story/measure-110-drug-decriminalization-portland/283-5b2ae9b5-649a-44e1-88b5-5d9bb8466eb4

That’s on them. Prison won’t get them any help either. If you wanna give them mandatory rehab instead that’s a whole separate story but criminalizing it will do literally nothing to stop getting people addicted.

This is for hard drugs though , not marijuana and decriminalizing it has led to the use of these drugs to go up too

Their body their choice.

No surprise that Republicans lied about being against forced medications and allowing people to be 'free.'

What they really meant was 'don't force anything on me but I can force anything on you.'

THis has been the Rethug mindset for at least 40 years.

It certainly isn't a surprise that decriminilazation doesn't really work except to maybe save lives (which isn't a minor thing itself) but that only full legalization will do away, over time, with the black market and the crime associated with that.

Also not a surprise that the police would back pseudo moralist authoritarians who want to maintain essentially the criminilization of poor drug users.

Going after drug addicts is an easy way for police officers to meet their quotas.

Of course, I'm not referring to any legally mandated quotas.

[Benjamin Frank]

Can’t believe these dumbasses want to put people in prison for drug possession again. Hopefully they fail and fail hard and fast. I live in the freest state in the country and these people can’t think of any cure for social ills besides enhancing the police state.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/mixed-results-oregon-drug-decriminalization/283-0980d8b1-a514-425a-8989-889b027f5a95

Yet in the first year after the new approach took effect in February 2021, only 1% of people who received citations for possessing controlled substances asked for help via a new hotline.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/the-story/measure-110-drug-decriminalization-portland/283-5b2ae9b5-649a-44e1-88b5-5d9bb8466eb4

That’s on them. Prison won’t get them any help either. If you wanna give them mandatory rehab instead that’s a whole separate story but criminalizing it will do literally nothing to stop getting people addicted.

This is for hard drugs though , not marijuana and decriminalizing it has led to the use of these drugs to go up too

Addiction is a disease and not a crime.

Addiction is a normal human condition. It's just that pseudo moralists have outlawed some addictions.

[Benjamin Frank]

Can’t believe these dumbasses want to put people in prison for drug possession again. Hopefully they fail and fail hard and fast. I live in the freest state in the country and these people can’t think of any cure for social ills besides enhancing the police state.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/mixed-results-oregon-drug-decriminalization/283-0980d8b1-a514-425a-8989-889b027f5a95

Yet in the first year after the new approach took effect in February 2021, only 1% of people who received citations for possessing controlled substances asked for help via a new hotline.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/the-story/measure-110-drug-decriminalization-portland/283-5b2ae9b5-649a-44e1-88b5-5d9bb8466eb4

That’s on them. Prison won’t get them any help either. If you wanna give them mandatory rehab instead that’s a whole separate story but criminalizing it will do literally nothing to stop getting people addicted.

This is for hard drugs though , not marijuana and decriminalizing it has led to the use of these drugs to go up too

Addiction is a disease and not a crime.

Addiction is a normal human condition. It's just that pseudo moralists have outlawed some addictions.

It's not a normal condition. Hard drugs like fentanyl will chemically alter your brain until the point you're living solely in search of your next hit. Anything but natural. Your frivolous attitude to this when overdose deaths are skyrocketing is really something else.

This is true of anybody at the extreme end of addiction whether it's addiction to video games, addiction to alcohol, addiction to exercise... Criminalizing addiciton doesn't solve anything. this isn't a question of being 'frivolous' but an understanding that nanny state/pseudo morality does nothing other than allow the person doing it to engage in virtual signalling.

Don't you find it strange that fentanyl has become a serious addiction for people when it's illegal? What benefit is making fentanyl illegal providing?


Of course, I recall that 'freedom loving' fascist Josh Hawley somehow wanted to restrict the amount of time people (or maybe just children) could spend playing video games and watching pornography (or wanted to ban pornography entirely or something.)

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/josh-hawleys-crusade-video-games-porn-hilariously-empty-rcna4822

Hawley: “Can we be surprised that after years of being told they are the problem, that their manhood is the problem, more and more men are withdrawing into the enclave of idleness and pornography and video games?” he asked at the Oct. 31 event."

I personally think this obsession with 'alpha males' which is a huge part of the ideology with both fascism and the Trump cult (to the degree they're different) is a serious problem if not an addiction, but I don't think that criminal law has much to do to address this problem.