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Farmlands
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« on: September 26, 2022, 04:40:32 AM »

Can’t believe these dumbasses want to put people in prison for drug possession again. Hopefully they fail and fail hard and fast. I live in the freest state in the country and these people can’t think of any cure for social ills besides enhancing the police state.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/mixed-results-oregon-drug-decriminalization/283-0980d8b1-a514-425a-8989-889b027f5a95

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Yet in the first year after the new approach took effect in February 2021, only 1% of people who received citations for possessing controlled substances asked for help via a new hotline.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/the-story/measure-110-drug-decriminalization-portland/283-5b2ae9b5-649a-44e1-88b5-5d9bb8466eb4


That’s on them. Prison won’t get them any help either. If you wanna give them mandatory rehab instead that’s a whole separate story but criminalizing it will do literally nothing to stop getting people addicted.

This is for hard drugs though , not marijuana and decriminalizing it has led to the use of these drugs to go up too
Addiction is a disease and not a crime.

Addiction is a normal human condition. It's just that pseudo moralists have outlawed some addictions.


It's not a normal condition. Hard drugs like fentanyl will chemically alter your brain until the point you're living solely in search of your next hit. Anything but natural. Your frivolous attitude to this when overdose deaths are skyrocketing is really something.
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Farmlands
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2022, 06:35:49 AM »

2. They all oppose mandatory treatment for hard drug users
Which of these do you mean?

A. They think that people should be allowed to use hard drugs freely without having to go to treatment

B. They oppose the current system in which hard drug use is decriminalized and the worst-case consequence is mandatory rehab

For Drazan and Betsy it’s clearly B while for Kotek it’s pretty much A

lmao

Not gonna move this to Likely R, but that almost sounds like Kotek is trying to lose.

I still don't get how that ballot measure passed, the one decriminalizing meth and heroin. Let alone with 58% of the vote. I'm 90% sure that would fail in California.

Kotek won’t directly say it but if you oppose repealing that measure without mandatory treatment then yah your position is effectively A .

That measure passed cause they claimed people would get treatment rather than go to jail which made it sound good on paper . It would not have passed if people would have known these consequences:

https://www.oregonlive.com/health/2022/09/oregons-drug-decriminalization-effort-sends-less-than-1-of-people-to-treatment.html?outputType=amp


Yeah, a "decriminalisation" system where less than 1 percent of people go into treatment and the $100 fine is waived if you promise to definitely call a hotline is not that, it's just full-blown legalization. People deep in addiction often require tough love, or else you'll get the present situation in Oregon.
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