Oregon Governor Megathread

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After the latest Koin Debate I have decided to vote for Bob Tiernan in the primary. My ranking would be Tiernan>Pierce> Drazen> Stan

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Yah this is a pure tossup

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I’ll watch the debate this weekend when I have some time

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Can’t believe these dumbasses want to put people in prison for drug possession again. Hopefully they fail and fail hard and fast. I live in the freest state in the country and these people can’t think of any cure for social ills besides enhancing the police state.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/mixed-results-oregon-drug-decriminalization/283-0980d8b1-a514-425a-8989-889b027f5a95

Yet in the first year after the new approach took effect in February 2021, only 1% of people who received citations for possessing controlled substances asked for help via a new hotline.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/the-story/measure-110-drug-decriminalization-portland/283-5b2ae9b5-649a-44e1-88b5-5d9bb8466eb4

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Can’t believe these dumbasses want to put people in prison for drug possession again. Hopefully they fail and fail hard and fast. I live in the freest state in the country and these people can’t think of any cure for social ills besides enhancing the police state.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/mixed-results-oregon-drug-decriminalization/283-0980d8b1-a514-425a-8989-889b027f5a95

Yet in the first year after the new approach took effect in February 2021, only 1% of people who received citations for possessing controlled substances asked for help via a new hotline.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/the-story/measure-110-drug-decriminalization-portland/283-5b2ae9b5-649a-44e1-88b5-5d9bb8466eb4

That’s on them. Prison won’t get them any help either. If you wanna give them mandatory rehab instead that’s a whole separate story but criminalizing it will do literally nothing to stop getting people addicted.

This is for hard drugs though , not marijuana and decriminalizing it has led to the use of these drugs to go up too

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Another issue where the three candidates differ is on the death penalty. Drazan and Johnson have promised to lift the moratorium on Oregon's death penalty, which has been maintained for more than a decade.

This is despite the fact that Oregon voters approved a constitutional amendment explicitly authorizing the death penalty. Kotek, on her part, wants to continue the moratorium. Of course, Oregon is a state where executions haven't been that common. But it's a notable difference, nevertheless, and shows that the Democratic nominee here is clearly more progressive on these kinds of issues than her two opponents.

Of course she is. Johnson is just playing the tiresome game "if you bring together the best of 2 sides, which are equally bad otherwise, something great happens". In the end, she just may help Drazan win with a plurality.

Actually at this point the democrats here believe it’s possible that Johnson could help Kotek win if she splits the right wing vote more which is why they have tried to paint her as Republican lite .

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This might actually be one of the spots where a Biden visit with Kotek would do more good than harm tbh.

The impact of these visits are overrated when it comes to general elections, especially when it comes to Gubernatorial races. Just look at Trump going into Kentucky in 2019 and Obama going to Virginia in 2021 for examples.

Also her problem is not really she has failed to rally the base but the fact there are a good amount of moderate to conservative democrats who might be a minority of the overall dem base but still represent a good amount of voters.

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I literally just saw an ad where Kotek is trying to tie Drazan to Kate Brown lol

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I literally just saw an ad where Kotek is trying to tie Drazan to Kate Brown lol

Yeah it has something to do with Brown’s (real or perceived) inaction on the housing crisis.

Yah it still something that the Democratic Nominee is trying to run away from the Democratic Governor in a state like Oregon the way Kotek has been doing.

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I literally just saw an ad where Kotek is trying to tie Drazan to Kate Brown lol

Biden was in Oregon the other day campaigning for Kotek. I'm surprised she didn't try to keep him at arm's length.

Biden though is still way more popular here than Kate Brown and Drazan has campaigned harder against Brown than Biden for sure. In fact this was their reaction to Biden coming:

A spokesperson for Drazan’s campaign said “Kotek is desperate to talk about anything other than her allegiance to Kate Brown and the agenda they’ve pushed that’s caused massive homelessness, rising crime and higher costs. They know Christine Drazan is going to win this race and there’s nothing they can do to stop that from happening.”

KOIN 6 News asked Betsy Johnson what she thinks about Biden’s visit.

“I hope he comes more often so that Portland will finally clean up more of the trash and tent cities that Tina’s created between the airport and downtown Portland,” Johnson said.

https://www.koin.com/news/elections/gubernatorial-candidates-respond-to-polls-bidens-visit-to-oregon/

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In the Debate so far:

1. On Homelessness, Kotek is trying to tie Drazan to Kate Brown lol

2. They all oppose mandatory treatment for hard drug users

3. Betsy took a more pro cop stance than Drazan

4. Kotek distanced herself from the school lockdowns and Drazan called her out on it

5. Betsy was asked if she was a spoiler and she called Kotek the spoiler for spoiling the state and said she will not leave the state and then Kotek and Drazan attacked Betsy

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2. They all oppose mandatory treatment for hard drug users

Which of these do you mean?

A. They think that people should be allowed to use hard drugs freely without having to go to treatment

B. They oppose the current system in which hard drug use is decriminalized and the worst-case consequence is mandatory rehab

For Drazan and Betsy it’s clearly B while for Kotek it’s pretty much A

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2. They all oppose mandatory treatment for hard drug users

Which of these do you mean?

A. They think that people should be allowed to use hard drugs freely without having to go to treatment

B. They oppose the current system in which hard drug use is decriminalized and the worst-case consequence is mandatory rehab

For Drazan and Betsy it’s clearly B while for Kotek it’s pretty much A

lmao

Not gonna move this to Likely R, but that almost sounds like Kotek is trying to lose.

I still don't get how that ballot measure passed, the one decriminalizing meth and heroin. Let alone with 58% of the vote. I'm 90% sure that would fail in California.

Kotek won’t directly say it but if you oppose repealing that measure without mandatory treatment then yah your position is effectively A .

That measure passed cause they claimed people would get treatment rather than go to jail which made it sound good on paper . It would not have passed if people would have known these consequences:

https://www.oregonlive.com/health/2022/09/oregons-drug-decriminalization-effort-sends-less-than-1-of-people-to-treatment.html?outputType=amp

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Curious that every low-quality poll showing Drazan ahead by 1-2 points was posted, but this poll was skipped. Any way~

https://twitter.com/Civiqs/status/1583145140654219269?s=20&t=A4gXvm9otJZqtbV...

Far more believable and makes way more sense with the Wyden numbers.

That poll was not skipped as there are literally two threads about it, and Kotek's own internals have her up 2. Drazan also has a poll where she is up 6 so its not like there are not outlier polls that have Drazan up by a good deal either and Civiqs has a pretty bad track record.

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I think the only feasible interpretation of these turnout patterns that allows Kotek to win is if Betsy Johnson vote has collapsed to near null figures in rural areas but many Dem-leaning voters are weighing between a vote for her and a vote for Kotek, in which case you would expect them to take longer to vote than usual.

These turnout patterns are exactly what you'd expect to see if Oregon turns blood red tbh.

Drazan winning by 2-3 points is not a “blood red” result .

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https://mobile.twitter.com/horvick/status/1589332993373786112


This change in election law was complete BS in every way and frankly ballots that come in after Election Day should not be counted and that’s how it used to be in Oregon too

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https://twitter.com/Oregonian/status/1589823285356888064

Stuff like this makes people think elections are rigged cause this is 100% inexcusable .