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MillennialModerate
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« on: July 17, 2021, 12:34:01 PM »
« edited: July 17, 2021, 10:09:53 PM by MillennialModerate »

Took my post from the “should the senate be abolished” thread. Here’s a list of reforms that are badly needed and would do a lot to safe guard from the potential disaster we could’ve faced after 1/6.


1. Selection of Presidential nominees

A. Establish a uniform system of picking party nominees for all parties.

**With a setup that is roughly this**
• Primaries begin in February;
• Primary days over the course of 3 months;
• Delegates awarded by primaries represent 98% of convention delegates
allowing party leaders to break races of razor thin margis; order of state
primaries elected based on closrless of result in previous election)


2. Selection of President (options)

optionA. Abolish, Presidential election becomes popular vote
optionB. Pop Vote winner gets EV equivalent to 5% of otherwise total
optionC. Retain current system; would be fairer w/ congress change

**Remaining reforms will assume continuation of Electoral College**

3. Confirmation of President (options)

A. State can’t change means of electoral allotment AFTER votes cast

B. In case of electoral college tie: House and Senate
take combined individual vote; winner is POTUS


C. Congress meets to confirm electoral college results as currently
[•] If VP refuses to preside, speaker may do so; If leaders of Congress refuse to call confirmatory joint session then Presidential canidate may appeal to SCOTUS for confirmatory ruling which would be held within 48 hours of request
[•] IF both chambers vote to not accept states electoral votes then Supreme Court meets next day to confirm that the reason for denying electoral votes was legitimate
[•]If deemed to be a partisan move - SCOTUS can override congresss denial of electoral votes thus officially certifying next POTUS
[•]Congress can only override SCOTUS veto by meeting the next day and 75% of each chamber overriding




4. Reform of the United States Senate:
A. Each state is awarded 3 Senators, one for each cycle
B. PR awarded statehood, DC awarded 2 Senators (as a compromise)
C. Fillibuster is reformed:
[45% required to FB, must all be present; bill can only be fillibustered for 2wk]


5. Reform of the United States House of Representatives

A. Add 210 seats to House; give DC seats proportion to pop
(lock number in, reset to same population % every 50yrs)
B. Ban partisan gerrymandering

6. Voting rights

  • At least 15 days of early voting including the final T, W, Thu, F, S, Su before Election Day
  • States have option of Voter ID (with reasonable substitutions allowed)
  • Unintentional wrong precinct votes must be counted
  • Number of drop boxes and/or polling locations by county must be allocated based on population
  • States that allow mail-in voting must require two signatures and ID verification
  • Option to register to vote must be given when registering car/ certifying marriage ..similar occurrences
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2021, 05:53:32 PM »

The house needs to be Cube Root Rule and then needs independent redistricting or some form of PR.

There is no mention of campaign finance here and that is probably among the biggest problems we have.

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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2021, 09:58:23 PM »

The house needs to be Cube Root Rule and then needs independent redistricting or some form of PR.

There is no mention of campaign finance here and that is probably among the biggest problems we have.



I prefer "Cube Root Rule minus Senate" for size of House, since Cube Root Rule is supposed to be the ideal size of a legislature, not of a lower house. Assuming DC + PR statehood and keeping 2 Sens per State, so 104 Sens:

692 is cube root. 104 Senators, 588 House members.

No 23rd Amendment since DC Statehood, so 692 EVs, as well, if we're keeping Electoral College.

I like this way better than 692 + 104 = 796 EVs. 588 House Members is also much more manageable for actual House purposes: it's basically a 1/3rd increase in current size.
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2021, 08:07:34 AM »

The house needs to be Cube Root Rule and then needs independent redistricting or some form of PR.

There is no mention of campaign finance here and that is probably among the biggest problems we have.



Campaign finance is something that needs work but seeing as that gets struck down by the courts - I figured leave it out. I think it was his list of we implemented it’s a list that doesn’t come off as a liberal wishlist grab bag - but are things that make things fairer - unfortunately a lot of it would require a constitutional amendment
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2021, 10:53:16 AM »

If designing something from the ground-up, I'd probably support a semi-presidential system.  A directly elected president gets to appoint a prime minister/cabinet from the national legislature that can be removed from power through a motion of no confidence.
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2021, 05:28:56 PM »

If we're completely redoing the legislative & executive branches then I would propose a more proportional system with a single legislative house and a prime minister.  Also, DC & all territories would need to choose either full statehood, be absorbed into an existing state/combine into a new state, or become independent countries.

All states would be given 1 vote + the state's % of the total US population times 500 and then rounded to the nearest tenth.  This would represent both their electoral votes and their votes in the legislature.

All states with fewer than 4 votes would elect their representatives from one multi-member statewide district.  States with 4 or more votes would elect their representatives from roughly equal population districts (some districts would have +/- 0.1 votes and would need to have a correspondingly greater/smaller population) with district size being as close to 3 votes as possible.

Each district can elect n+1 representatives where "n" is equal to the district's votes rounded to the nearest whole number.  Representatives would first run in a jungle primary where the top n+3 candidates advance to the general election.  The general election would utilize instant run-off voting until only n+1 candidates remain.  The districts votes would then be distributed proportionately among the remaining candidates.  If any candidate who has advanced to this round would receive less than 0.2 votes from their district then they are also eliminated via instant runoff and the district's votes are distributed proportionately amongst the remaining candidates.

Once all votes have been distributed then typical parliamentary rules kick in for coalition building, selecting a prime minister/cabinet, power sharing, etc.  Moving legislation forward for debate would only require a majority of votes and could not be stalled, delayed, or filibustered by any one member or group of members.

To preserve the "equality between the states" different types of legislation would still be required to garner a certain level of support from differing thresholds of members, states, or members within a state:

1. Domestic legislation would require a simply majority of votes to pass but the votes would need to come from at least 50% of the states.
2. Treaties and other international agreements would require a majority of the total votes and those votes would need to come from at least 60% of the states.
3. Constitutional amendments would require a 60% of the total votes and at least 1 full vote from 75% of the states to pass.

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