PA 13

[Keystone Phil]

One thing I don't get with this area in general though.  It seems the more affluent areas are more socially liberal in PA 13.  This also includes Bustleton, Pine Valley, and Somerton as well along with Montco.  This is of course a generalization.     

I think Somerton would probably be socially conservative. Pine Valley...not sure. Bustleton - liberal.

[TeePee4Prez]

Just your opinion Keystone about NE Philly (generally north of Frankford Creek, but I'll include Juniata, Port Richmond, and Fishtown) :

1. Most liberal section:
2. Most conservative:
3. Most populist:
4. Most libertarian:

my answers

1. Oxford Circle
2. Fox Chase
3. Bridesburg
4. Pine Valley

[Keystone Phil]

Just your opinion Keystone about NE Philly (generally north of Frankford Creek, but I'll include Juniata, Port Richmond, and Fishtown) :

1. Most liberal section:
2. Most conservative:
3. Most populist:
4. Most libertarian:

my answers

1. Oxford Circle
2. Fox Chase
3. Bridesburg
4. Pine Valley

Most Liberal - Buselton
Most Conservative - Fox Chase
Most Populist - Bridesburg
Most Libertarian - Not really sure to be honest.

[TeePee4Prez]

Just your opinion Keystone about NE Philly (generally north of Frankford Creek, but I'll include Juniata, Port Richmond, and Fishtown) :

1. Most liberal section:
2. Most conservative:
3. Most populist:
4. Most libertarian:

my answers

1. Oxford Circle
2. Fox Chase
3. Bridesburg
4. Pine Valley

Most Liberal - Buselton
Most Conservative - Fox Chase
Most Populist - Bridesburg
Most Libertarian - Not really sure to be honest.

Trust me, Oxford Circle/Castor Gardens is moreso.  Largely on economics though.  Libertarian you are right though- there aren't really any. 

[Keystone Phil]

Well now this is interesting...

From PoliticsPA


Schwartz Invites Potential 2006 Challenger to State of the Union



"I was honored that Al Taubenberger accepted my invitation to attend the State of the Union as my special guest. I look forward to working with him on increasing economic development in Northeast Philadelphia and helping local small business owners," said Congresswoman Allyson Schwartz

[TeePee4Prez]

Well now this is interesting...

From PoliticsPA


Schwartz Invites Potential 2006 Challenger to State of the Union



"I was honored that Al Taubenberger accepted my invitation to attend the State of the Union as my special guest. I look forward to working with him on increasing economic development in Northeast Philadelphia and helping local small business owners," said Congresswoman Allyson Schwartz

Yeah, I agree.  They are polar opposites.  Well I knew Allyson would be bipartisan.  Keystone, from what I'm hearing from people, she won't be as liberal as you think.  Granted, she is one as am I.  I have no problem with that at all!

[Keystone Phil]

Well now this is interesting...

From PoliticsPA


Schwartz Invites Potential 2006 Challenger to State of the Union



"I was honored that Al Taubenberger accepted my invitation to attend the State of the Union as my special guest. I look forward to working with him on increasing economic development in Northeast Philadelphia and helping local small business owners," said Congresswoman Allyson Schwartz

Yeah, I agree.  They are polar opposites.  Well I knew Allyson would be bipartisan.  Keystone, from what I'm hearing from people, she won't be as liberal as you think.  Granted, she is one as am I.  I have no problem with that at all!

I won't say that she's a bipartisan just yet. Was this a nice move? Yes, I'll give her that.

Flyers, don't think that I want Schwartz to be as liberal as I'm saying she will be. I don't want people to look at PA 13 and think it's part of San Francisco. However, the fact of the matter is, Schwartz was one of the most liberal members (if not, the most liberal member of the PA State Senate) and she'll be to your left in Congress.

[TeePee4Prez]

Well now this is interesting...

From PoliticsPA


Schwartz Invites Potential 2006 Challenger to State of the Union



"I was honored that Al Taubenberger accepted my invitation to attend the State of the Union as my special guest. I look forward to working with him on increasing economic development in Northeast Philadelphia and helping local small business owners," said Congresswoman Allyson Schwartz

Yeah, I agree.  They are polar opposites.  Well I knew Allyson would be bipartisan.  Keystone, from what I'm hearing from people, she won't be as liberal as you think.  Granted, she is one as am I.  I have no problem with that at all!

I won't say that she's a bipartisan just yet. Was this a nice move? Yes, I'll give her that.

Flyers, don't think that I want Schwartz to be as liberal as I'm saying she will be. I don't want people to look at PA 13 and think it's part of San Francisco. However, the fact of the matter is, Schwartz was one of the most liberal members (if not, the most liberal member of the PA State Senate) and she'll be to your left in Congress.

I know PA 13 is not San Francisco, but admit it we are one of the more liberal areas of the country.  We are to the left of Evan Bayh, Joe Lieberman and Bob Casey.  Sorry, I know you're conservative, but there are a lot of lefties and moderates in PA 13.  Conservatives are more of a prescence and might I add more vocal in PA 13 than in CA 8 or CA 12.  I will admit Joe Torsella is more representative of PA 13 than Allyson Schwartz in ideology, but that is basically moderate liberal pushing centrist.   

[Keystone Phil]

Well now this is interesting...

From PoliticsPA


Schwartz Invites Potential 2006 Challenger to State of the Union



"I was honored that Al Taubenberger accepted my invitation to attend the State of the Union as my special guest. I look forward to working with him on increasing economic development in Northeast Philadelphia and helping local small business owners," said Congresswoman Allyson Schwartz

Yeah, I agree.  They are polar opposites.  Well I knew Allyson would be bipartisan.  Keystone, from what I'm hearing from people, she won't be as liberal as you think.  Granted, she is one as am I.  I have no problem with that at all!

I won't say that she's a bipartisan just yet. Was this a nice move? Yes, I'll give her that.

Flyers, don't think that I want Schwartz to be as liberal as I'm saying she will be. I don't want people to look at PA 13 and think it's part of San Francisco. However, the fact of the matter is, Schwartz was one of the most liberal members (if not, the most liberal member of the PA State Senate) and she'll be to your left in Congress.

I know PA 13 is not San Francisco, but admit it we are one of the more liberal areas of the country. 

We're one of the most liberal areas of the country? I know we have plenty of liberals and moderates but your statement is ridiculous.

[TeePee4Prez]

Bump.  Forgot to say, PA 13 is left of center.

[Keystone Phil]

Bump.  Forgot to say, PA 13 is left of center.

Wow you're an ass.

[MAS117]

DELETE THIS THREAD DAVE!

[TeePee4Prez]

Bump.  Forgot to say, PA 13 is left of center.

Wow you're an ass.

So is Rick Santorum.  Your point?

[Keystone Phil]

Bump.  Forgot to say, PA 13 is left of center.

Wow you're an ass.

So is Rick Santorum.  Your point?

Wow. That was too good for me! Now watch this...so is Allyson Schwartz! Do we really want this thread to become personal attack thread? No. Do we really want to provoke each other? No. So I suggest we stop.

[Keystone Phil]

Do we really want this thread to become personal attack thread? No. Do we really want to provoke each other? No. So I suggest we stop.

And the rest of the forum concurs!

Oh New Federalist. The rest of the forum wants PA 13 gone. PA 13 is going no where! 

[Rob]

Its said PA 13 is among the top 10 of the toss up house races in the Country. The way it looks in the District, Melissa Brown has it in the bag. Any thoughts?

This is the post that started the whole thing. Amazing, isn't it?

[Keystone Phil]

Its said PA 13 is among the top 10 of the toss up house races in the Country. The way it looks in the District, Melissa Brown has it in the bag. Any thoughts?

This is the post that started the whole thing. Amazing, isn't it?

Yeah that was a friend of mine who volunteered on the Brown campaign also. At the time, we honestly did think this seat was in the bag. PA 13 would be a definite GOP pickup in our eyes. Then Flyers2005, who is also from the same district (same area of the city actually) found the thread and then the debate began. Politics is very interesting around here. That's why we are able to have a 60 page debate. 

[Dave from Michigan]

I just found out that several members of my family live in PA 13 and PA 8.  Our family reunions are held in PA most of the time, thats the only time I ever see these people.  Unfortuntely I haven't seen them in a few years and don't know there political views. 

[Keystone Phil]

I just found out that several members of my family live in PA 13 and PA 8.  Our family reunions are held in PA most of the time, thats the only time I ever see these people.  Unfortuntely I haven't seen them in a few years and don't know there political views. 

See. There's a bit of PA 13 in everyone!

[Gabu]

I just found out that several members of my family live in PA 13 and PA 8.  Our family reunions are held in PA most of the time, thats the only time I ever see these people.  Unfortuntely I haven't seen them in a few years and don't know there political views. 

See. There's a bit of PA 13 in everyone!

Not me, and I hope to keep it that way.

[TeePee4Prez]

Its said PA 13 is among the top 10 of the toss up house races in the Country. The way it looks in the District, Melissa Brown has it in the bag. Any thoughts?

This is the post that started the whole thing. Amazing, isn't it?

Yeah that was a friend of mine who volunteered on the Brown campaign also. At the time, we honestly did think this seat was in the bag. PA 13 would be a definite GOP pickup in our eyes. Then Flyers2005, who is also from the same district (same area of the city actually) found the thread and then the debate began. Politics is very interesting around here. That's why we are able to have a 60 page debate. 

Yeah, I had an original PA 13 back in April 2004 before the primaries.  It was actually a poll between Schwartz, Torsella, Bard, Brown, and Taubenberger.  Unfortunately that one died out until KeystonePhil and TeenGOP joined us. 

This thread will continue for a long while.  Get used to it! 

[Jake]

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[Keystone Phil]

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What?

For those wondering, PA 13 debates will likely start up again towards the end of this year or definetley the beginning of next year (for the GOP primary).

[Jake]

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What?

For those wondering, PA 13 debates will likely start up again towards the end of this year or definetley the beginning of next year (for the GOP primary).

It was on page 3

[Keystone Phil]

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What?

For those wondering, PA 13 debates will likely start up again towards the end of this year or definetley the beginning of next year (for the GOP primary).

It was on page 3

Yeah. That should have been expected. There's not much to discuss as of now but like I said, wait until later in the year for debate to pick up.