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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2021, 02:33:50 PM »

Exactly. I tend to think people who are very religious tend to have trouble accepting democracy as a thing. Also, I tend to see organized religions as one in the same. I personally find it hypocritical to oppose the Taliban yet want a milder version of what the Taliban have right here.
MLK III: Basically The Taliban
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« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2021, 06:35:31 PM »

Exactly. I tend to think people who are very religious tend to have trouble accepting democracy as a thing. Also, I tend to see organized religions as one in the same. I personally find it hypocritical to oppose the Taliban yet want a milder version of what the Taliban have right here.
MLK III: Basically The Taliban
Roy Moore wants to ban gay sex for instance. He wants the ten commandments to be law.
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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2021, 09:18:43 PM »

no, what did religion ever do for me
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« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2021, 09:25:55 PM »

A little, but more in its lack of cultural importance and not as much in individuals’ actual beliefs.
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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2021, 11:03:24 AM »

Absolutely
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« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2021, 06:41:14 AM »

No because religiosity does not correlate with goodness or kindness or even purity... it never has and is certainly does not in today's world.
Exactly z the Taliban are mainly known for killing people.
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« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2021, 12:41:43 PM »
« Edited: August 14, 2021, 02:07:41 PM by The Swayze Train »

Organized religion? Not really. The institutional strengths of clergy, Astika, imams, rabbis, etc. have long outlived their medieval functions of preserving traditions/cultural information. In contrast, they very much contribute to suppression of thought in some cases.

Spirituality in general? Eh, different strokes for different folks. If one feels an existential need for a higher belief system, that is their prerogative. However, I don't think society is suffering because we no longer visit the shaman when we're sick.
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« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2021, 12:01:12 AM »

Yes.

There is a direct correlation between the decline of religion and the decline of American culture.
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« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2021, 10:26:52 AM »

no

now if only we could have a similar type of decline in political involvement and level of ideological commitment too
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« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2021, 09:46:35 PM »

On principle, no, there's no inherent reason a non-religious person can't be moral. But I think certain declines in morality in the US now are a result of the decline of Christianity, namely the complete inability to forgive amongst people under a certain age, even for the smallest infractions. I forgive other because I would like to be forgiven, that fits as a part of a secular logic based morality, but it's also something that was drilled into my head when I had to go to Sunday school as a kid so that might have something to do with it too.
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« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2021, 12:09:45 AM »

On principle, no, there's no inherent reason a non-religious person can't be moral. But I think certain declines in morality in the US now are a result of the decline of Christianity, namely the complete inability to forgive amongst people under a certain age, even for the smallest infractions. I forgive other because I would like to be forgiven, that fits as a part of a secular logic based morality, but it's also something that was drilled into my head when I had to go to Sunday school as a kid so that might have something to do with it too.
I must express some confusion here. Surely when we engage in moral reasoning we must be reasoning to a Good upon which we are ourselves dependent - if we are not, then you don’t really think it’s objectively good for anyone to agree with you. If we are, I see little difference between this Sovereign Good and God.
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« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2021, 10:59:59 AM »

I think that everyone should believe in something bigger then thimesleves
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« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2021, 12:02:56 PM »

I think that everyone should believe in something bigger then thimesleves

What if I don't even believe in myself?
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« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2021, 12:04:12 PM »

I think that everyone should believe in something bigger then thimesleves

What if I don't even believe in myself?
You should believe in youserlf, i believe in you
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« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2021, 03:11:32 PM »

From a Western European perspective, I can't see how the US moving towards more expected levels of religiosity is going to be 'a bad thing'. The amount of cultural/social/performative religiosity when I've been in the US is very strange to me and even religious UK friends of mine who've been, find it quite clawing.

Well, religion has been foundational to community life for centuries in the United States, particularly for marginalized communities like immigrants and obviously Black Americans. The flipside of individual freedom in religion (or lack thereof) is alienation from long-established communities and a breakdown in social cohesion. And I absolutely support individual freedom in or without religion--it's obviously enshrined in the First Amendment to the US Constitution)--but I can also acknowledge the trade-offs and downsides, especially in a such a hyper-capitalistic and unequal country as the United States.

And I agree with the sentiment expressed by others that the Republican-right-wing evangelical marriage and the Prosperity Gospel types growing at the expense of mainline Protestantism and Catholicism (as problematic as I find many aspects of both mainline Protestantism and Catholicism) is, in a word, "Bad."
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« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2021, 03:13:41 PM »

No because religiosity does not correlate with goodness or kindness or even purity... it never has and is certainly does not in today's world.

The civil rights movement in the US would like a word with you.
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