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« on: July 04, 2021, 04:29:02 PM »
« edited: July 11, 2021, 04:59:47 PM by But They Ain't Get No Vietnam Check »

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Amendment to the FF Act (L.C. 10.14)

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Title 9, Section 4 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

A “Gun License” shall be required to purchase, sell, or possess a gun in Lincoln.

(b) License types. —

There shall be the following categories of gun licenses —
(1) Class A, for rifles and shotguns; and
(2) Class B, for Class A weapons and handguns.

(c) Renewal. —

An individual shall be required to renew their Gun License every 3 years.

(d) Suspension. —

An individual's Gun License may be temporarily or permanently suspended by the court as a result of a criminal conviction relating to the violation of this Act, a violation of another gun law, the use of a gun in a crime, a crime involving bodily harm, or domestic violence.

(e) Requirements. —

An individual shall apply at a at a drivers license facility to get or renew a Gun License, where they shall —
(1) undergo a universal comprehensive background check;
(2) not have been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution by a court pass a mental health test issued by a psychologist, if they have a history of mental health issues.
(3) show proof of passing a gun training and safety course at a drivers license facility or on a drivers license facility website; and
(4) pass a gun safety exam at such drivers license facility.
(5) prove a demonstrated need for owning a firearm when they submit their license application

(f) Driver's licenses facility. —

The Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing shall provide to drivers license facilities the necessary courses for gun training and safety, accessible both —
(1) at the drivers license facility; and
(2) online.

(g) Waiting period. —

An individual shall not receive a gun license for the first time no sooner than one week (168 hours) after applying for one.

(h) Failure to comply. —

An individual that shall violate Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 6 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

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(a) In general. —

No individual shall purchase, sell, or possess
(1) bump stocks;
(2) suppressors;
(3) magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition; and
(4) assault weapons, defined as semi-automatic rifles and semi-automatic shotguns.
(5) folding or collapsible stocks
(6) bayonet lugs
(7) threaded barrels
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(9) barrel shrouds


(b) Penalties. —

An individual that purchases or sells, or possesses one or more of the devices in Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


(c) The Police shall also be subject to these restrictions. Police conducting traffic stops shall no longer be permitted to carry any firearm. Special forces operations, including SWAT teams and counterterrorism units shall also be subject to these restrictions with the exception of (a)(4).




Title 9, Section 8 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:



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Any individual who is convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun any gun related offense, including any gun related crimes or possession of an illegal firearm may have any guns or gun accessories in the individual’s possession permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2021, 06:07:19 PM »

Most of these changes were already discussed in the vetoed LGC 1.4 and so hopefully don't need to be explained again.

What this changes from the last version is there is no longer any buyback program and the wording of (e)(5) is changed from an adequate reason standard to a demonstrated need standard.

Hopefully this can be passed now.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2021, 09:51:44 AM »

The debate and comment period will be 24 hours.
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2021, 07:16:56 PM »

1) Can someone please clean up the bill from garbage characters? Tongue

2) Wouldn't the need for demostrating the need for a gun in order to be able to get one be unconstitutional?

3) Wouldn't the thing about removing guns from police make them less safe?

Tbh this is a bill I would 100% support here in real life, but I am not sure if it would work in the US and by extension Atlasia.
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2021, 09:00:10 PM »

1) Can someone please clean up the bill from garbage characters? Tongue

I agree on this and I'm unsure how they got there

2) Wouldn't the need for demostrating the need for a gun in order to be able to get one be unconstitutional?

My thought is no actually. In the case ACP v Lincoln, the Supreme Court noted that Justice Scalia in DC v Heller (by no means a case that advocated gun grabbing) that "the right to bear arms is not absolute"

3) Wouldn't the thing about removing guns from police make them less safe?

Not really, traffic police having guns has led to many accidental tragedies, and they generally don't need them. Even in the case where there is evidence of illegal activity during a traffic stop, it isn't hard for the officer to call in armed backup, or simply use a taser. I do think we should in general, encourage police to choose tasers over guns. Both law enforcement and citizens will be safer for it.

Tbh this is a bill I would 100% support here in real life, but I am not sure if it would work in the US and by extension Atlasia.


Could a Courtite sponsor this? (this cleans up the bizarre characters):


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Amendment to the FF Act (L.C. 10.14)

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Title 9, Section 4 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general.

A Gun License shall be required to purchase, sell, or possess a gun in Lincoln.

(b) License types.

There shall be the following categories of gun licenses
(1) Class A, for rifles and shotguns; and
(2) Class B, for Class A weapons and handguns.

(c) Renewal.

An individual shall be required to renew their Gun License every 3 years.

(d) Suspension.

An individual's Gun License may be temporarily or permanently suspended by the court as a result of a criminal conviction relating to the violation of this Act, a violation of another gun law, the use of a gun in a crime, a crime involving bodily harm, or domestic violence.

(e) Requirements.

An individual shall apply at a at a drivers license facility to get or renew a Gun License, where they shall
(1) undergo a universal comprehensive background check;
(2) not have been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution by a court pass a mental health test issued by a psychologist, if they have a history of mental health issues.
(3) show proof of passing a gun training and safety course at a drivers license facility or on a drivers license facility website; and
(4) pass a gun safety exam at such drivers license facility.
(5) prove a demonstrated need for owning a firearm when they submit their license application

(f) Driver's licenses facility.

The Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing shall provide to drivers license facilities the necessary courses for gun training and safety, accessible both
(1) at the drivers license facility; and
(2) online.

(g) Waiting period.

An individual shall not receive a gun license for the first time no sooner than one week (168 hours) after applying for one.

(h) Failure to comply.

An individual that shall violate Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 6 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

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(a) In general.

No individual shall purchase, sell, or possess
(1) bump stocks;
(2) suppressors;
(3) magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition; and
(4) assault weapons, defined as semi-automatic rifles and semi-automatic shotguns.
(5) folding or collapsible stocks
(6) bayonet lugs
(7) threaded barrels
(Cool grenade launchers
(9) barrel shrouds


(b) Penalties.

An individual that purchases or sells, or possesses one or more of the devices in Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


(c) The Police shall also be subject to these restrictions. Police conducting traffic stops shall no longer be permitted to carry any firearm. Special forces operations, including SWAT teams and counterterrorism units shall also be subject to these restrictions with the exception of (a)(4).




Title 9, Section 8 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:



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Any individual who is convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun any gun related offense, including any gun related crimes or possession of an illegal firearm may have any guns or gun accessories in the individual's possession permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2021, 09:30:34 PM »

Sponsoring the amendment
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2021, 06:42:25 AM »

Moving to vote on the above amendment.
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2021, 07:18:11 AM »

Moving to vote on the above amendment.

We can probably just adopt the amendment as it just cleans up characters.

From our rules:

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During debate, General Court Deputies may suggest amendments to proposed legislation. The Speaker may ignore amendments they deem frivolous or unconstitutional, subject to a simple majority vote to consider said amendment. If no Deputy objects to the amendment within 24 hours, it shall be adopted.

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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2021, 07:27:56 AM »

Moving to vote on the above amendment.

We can probably just adopt the amendment as it just cleans up characters.

From our rules:

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During debate, General Court Deputies may suggest amendments to proposed legislation. The Speaker may ignore amendments they deem frivolous or unconstitutional, subject to a simple majority vote to consider said amendment. If no Deputy objects to the amendment within 24 hours, it shall be adopted.


Ok, if there are no objections I move to adopt the amendment, and continue debate.
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2021, 08:43:41 PM »

Seeing no objection, amendment is adopted, and debate will continue on amended amendment.
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2021, 06:07:21 PM »

Is everyone prepared to support this in the current form?
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2021, 10:26:07 AM »

Is everyone prepared to support this in the current form?

I obviously support this fully, the need to address violent crime is paramount.
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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2021, 02:38:35 PM »

I motion for a final vote
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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2021, 03:30:59 PM »

If there are no objections to the above motion, we can commence voting tomorrow.
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2021, 04:56:30 PM »

Seeing no objection, voting on the final bill may commence. Court members have 48 hours to vote.
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2021, 05:07:15 PM »

Abstain
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2021, 06:02:41 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2021, 05:55:38 AM »

Nay.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2021, 09:44:42 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2021, 07:23:54 PM »

This vote should be closed so the Governor can sign this excellent bill into law
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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2021, 09:34:47 PM »

This vote should be closed so the Governor can sign this excellent bill into law

Agreed, again I was waiting for everyone to vote but it likely won't happen.

Aye 2
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The bill passes.
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« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2021, 09:24:55 AM »

This item was vetoed.

Court members have 48 hours to motion for a veto override.
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