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« Reply #75 on: July 03, 2021, 05:43:38 PM »

Concerning the threshold for cloture, hasn't the standard been 2/3 for some time? If there is rationale for changing it to 3/5 I am fully willing to hear it; otherwise, I do not see much of a need to lower it by a minimal amount.

Also, 2/3 of 18 comes out to a nice even 12, while 3/5 of 18 comes to a more annoying 10.8 Tongue

2/3rds of 10 in the pre-reset Senate was 6.66667, but we always just rounded up to the nearest whole number.

That is why 4 became the magic number for the Regionalist movement.

Guess the new magic number will be either 6 or 7, depending on what happens here.

Well not really, because that was based on threshold for failing amendments (decided in constitution), not ability to filibuster. Tongue

Ah, that makes sense. So 6 it is then Tongue

So you want to make cloture require the same as amending the constitution?

I'm a bit confused -- what would the alternative be? I thought both were 2/3 previously.
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« Reply #76 on: July 03, 2021, 05:44:38 PM »

Concerning the threshold for cloture, hasn't the standard been 2/3 for some time? If there is rationale for changing it to 3/5 I am fully willing to hear it; otherwise, I do not see much of a need to lower it by a minimal amount.

Also, 2/3 of 18 comes out to a nice even 12, while 3/5 of 18 comes to a more annoying 10.8 Tongue

2/3rds of 10 in the pre-reset Senate was 6.66667, but we always just rounded up to the nearest whole number.

That is why 4 became the magic number for the Regionalist movement.

Guess the new magic number will be either 6 or 7, depending on what happens here.

Well not really, because that was based on threshold for failing amendments (decided in constitution), not ability to filibuster. Tongue

Ah, that makes sense. So 6 it is then Tongue

So you want to make cloture require the same as amending the constitution?

I'm a bit confused -- what would the alternative be? I thought both were 2/3 previously.

Only because the Senate had 6 people. So a majority was also a super majority.

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« Reply #77 on: July 03, 2021, 05:46:00 PM »

Concerning the threshold for cloture, hasn't the standard been 2/3 for some time? If there is rationale for changing it to 3/5 I am fully willing to hear it; otherwise, I do not see much of a need to lower it by a minimal amount.

Also, 2/3 of 18 comes out to a nice even 12, while 3/5 of 18 comes to a more annoying 10.8 Tongue

2/3rds of 10 in the pre-reset Senate was 6.66667, but we always just rounded up to the nearest whole number.

That is why 4 became the magic number for the Regionalist movement.

Guess the new magic number will be either 6 or 7, depending on what happens here.

Well not really, because that was based on threshold for failing amendments (decided in constitution), not ability to filibuster. Tongue

Ah, that makes sense. So 6 it is then Tongue

So you want to make cloture require the same as amending the constitution?

I'm a bit confused -- what would the alternative be? I thought both were 2/3 previously.

Only because the Senate had 6 people. So a majority was also a super majority.



I guess a difference would make sense now in that case. However, having only one Senator be the difference between cloture and amending the constitution seems a bit low if we want to make a distinction, at least in my opinion.
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« Reply #78 on: July 03, 2021, 06:10:22 PM »

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Official Senate Procedures and Rules for Operation (OSPR)

Definitions

1.) Legislation is defined as any Bill, Amendment, or Resolution to a current Act, Procedural Resolution, or Constitutional Amendment.

2.) In all past, present and future instances of the terms, a Bill is defined as a piece of legislation that is awaiting or is presently in debate on the Senate floor. An Act is defined as a Bill that has achieved passage into Law.

3.) The Dean of the Senate is defined as the serving Senator, who is not the President Pro Tempore, with the longest continuous service in the Senate in their present stint of service. For the purposes of this clause, continuous service begins at the moment of swearing-in in the first term of the stint of service. The Dean of the Senate may pass the title, powers and responsibilities of the Dean of the Senate, to the next longest serving Senator for any reason whatsoever.

4.) A quorum is defined as the minimum number of members of the Senate that must be present at any of its meetings to make the proceedings of that meeting valid, which must be no fewer than ten members.

Article 1: Officers of the Senate

1) The Vice President shall be the President of the Senate.

a.) The President of the Senate shall keep a Senate Noticeboard, where the PPT shall update this board with recent events on their respective chamber’s legislation.

b.) The President of the Senate shall also track the activity of legislation of the Senate by posting an ‘Activity Tracker’ detailing the Senate slots, Rejected and Passed Legislation, along with the current Senatorial queue.

2.) The Vice President shall convene the Senate to elect a President Pro Tempore on the first day of each legislative session and when the office of President Pro Tempore is vacant. Otherwise, the most senior Senator (seniority shall be determined by length of continuous service) who isn't on Leave of Absence and has posted on the forum in the preceding 168 hours, or the Senator chosen by the most senior Senator if they are on a leave of absence, shall carry out this duty as Dean of the Senate. The Senate shall elect a President Pro Tempore from among its members by majority consent with the Vice President being the tiebreaker. The Vice President shall retain the powers and prerogatives as the President Pro Tempore until the election of the President Pro Tempore. If all of the Vice President, President Pro Tempore, and Deputy President Pro Tempore are either vacant or unavailable, these powers shall be absorbed by the Dean of the Senate until the election of the President Pro Tempore.

a) If there is a serving Deputy President Pro Tempore, appointed during the same session of the Senate, they shall instead maintain the powers and prerogatives of the President Pro Tempore and shall be responsible for administering the vote for President Pro Tempore in the event of a vacancy.

b) If the official responsible for the vote falls behind by over 24 hours, the President of the Senate shall take over administration in their stead.

3.) The PPT, after taking their oath of office, must appoint a successor should they become inactive. This successor shall be named the Deputy PPT, and will retain all of the powers of the PPT, if the PPT becomes inactive for over 120 hours or is on an LOA. In case of the PPT resigning or being deposed, the Deputy PPT (or, should none currently exist, the President of the Senate) will serve as Acting PPT with full powers until a new PPT is elected.

4.) The President Pro Tempore will be subject to a Motion of No Confidence should his peers decide it, said proceeding being initiated if at least six Senators have sponsored a Motion of No Confidence, introduced in the Legislative Introduction Thread, against the PPT, citing the motives of why the PPT should be removed from his office.

5.) The Dean of the Senate shall open a thread and commence the debates. Debates shall last at least for 96 hours. After the debates have elapsed, the Dean of the Senate shall open a vote, which shall last for 96 hours. A two-thirds majority of the sitting Senators is needed for the motion to succeed, at which point the concerned Senator will immediately cease to be PPT. Only one Motion of No Confidence can be introduced against a given PPT per legislative session.

6.) The President Pro Tempore shall retain the powers and prerogatives as the President of the Senate under the following circumstances:

-A publicly announced absence by the President of the Senate from the Atlas Forum.

- If the President of the Senate has not posted on the Atlas/Talk Elections Forum for seven consecutive days.

- During any period of time when no person is presently holding the office of President of the Senate

-The President of the Senate should be absent by reason of exercising responsibility as Acting President under the Constitution.

-A publicly announced conferral of such powers by the President of the Senate.

Article 2: Introducing Legislation

1.) The President of the Senate shall keep a thread on the Fantasy Government board for introducing legislation. This thread shall be known as the Senate Legislation Introduction Thread. Sitting Senators may post in this thread. The President Pro Tempore shall maintain a record listing all sponsored legislation in the Legislation Introduction Thread.

2.) If the PPT determines that a piece of legislation is functionally impractical, frivolous, or is directly unconstitutional, they may, in a public post on the Legislation Introduction thread, remove said legislation from the Senate floor. The sponsoring Senator of the legislation shall have ninety-six (96) hours to challenge this action in a public post, and with the concurrence of one-third (1/3) of office-holding Senators in the affirmative, may override the actions of the PPT. (Nasolation clause)

3.) 20 threads about legislation may be open for voting and debate simultaneously.

a.) The first 15 open threads shall be open to all legislation initially regarding bills, resolutions or constitutional amendments. If the sponsor already has two or more pieces of legislation on the Senate floor, legislation from Senators who do not shall take priority until all such other legislation is completed. The PPT shall be the Presiding Officer for these open threads.

b.) The sixteenth slot shall be reserved for national emergencies and administered by either the President of the Senate or the PPT.

c.) The seventeenth slot shall be reserved for budgetary legislation and administered by either the President of the Senate or the PPT.

d.) The eighteenth and nineteenth slots shall be reserved for the President of the Republic of Atlasia and administered by either the President of the Senate or the PPT.

e.) The twentieth slot shall be reserved for public submissions and shall be introduced by the President of the Senate.

4.) A legislation is no longer on the Senate Floor when it has been tabled, rejected, or passed by the members of the Senate.

5.) If at any time the original sponsor vacates his office as Senator, all legislation introduced in the Legislation Introduction Thread shall, within a week of the vacancy, be declared withdrawn by the PPT by public post, if no Senator sponsors the legislation. If a piece of legislation has been introduced on the Senate floor, any office-holding Senator may assume sponsorship.

6.) Co-sponsors of legislation under consideration shall have no power to withdraw legislation nor contest withdrawal of legislation by the original sponsor. Any office-holding Senator may assume sponsorship of the legislation within 96 hours after the original sponsor has motioned to withdraw. Once a motion to assume sponsorship has been filed by a Senator, Senators shall have 24 hours to object to this motion. If any Senator objects, the PPT shall open a vote on the motion lasting until a majority has voted for or against the motion, but not more than 96 hours. If the motion is rejected, the bill shall be removed from the floor.

7.) All resolutions seeking to amend the constitution must be introduced along with a passage detailing what is being changed in the Constitution and why, called the Amendment Explanation. All amendments to the resolution, must change the explanation if they change the resolution so as to be inconsistent with it. This shall not infringe on the presiding officer's ability to correct for grammar and formatting issues, nor impede the presiding officer's ability to update and maintain a mission statement in the outer quote box of a given bill or resolution.

8.) All legislation on the Senate floor shall be given a distinct designation. The format of this designation shall denote in the following order "S" for the Senate chamber, followed by "B" for a bill or "R" for a Resolution. Immediately following the second letter will be number of the present senate at the time of introduction, followed by a dash if administered by the President of the Senate, and then a number displaying at least two digits beginning with "01" and increasing until the end of the session.

Article 3: Amendments

1.) During the course of debate on legislation, any sitting Senator may offer amendments to the legislation. The President Pro Tempore may remove amendments from consideration that are functionally impractical, frivolous, directly unconstitutional, or lack clear intent regarding the changes to be made. The amendment sponsor shall have 24 hours to object to the decision and may overturn the action with the concurrence of 1/3rd of his fellow Senators. Unless stated otherwise in the amendment, components of the underlying legislation not referenced in an amendment will remain unchanged.

2.) The legislation's primary sponsor shall judge the amendment(s) in relation to their intent with the legislation. If judged friendly by the sponsor, the PPT shall give twenty four hours for objections to the amendment, after which, with no objections having been entered the amendment shall be considered as passed.

3.) If judged hostile by the sponsor, or if a Senator has objected, a vote shall be started by the PPT once the amendment has been on the floor twenty four hours. The vote shall last for three days or until a majority has voted in favor or against the amendment, at which point Senators who have voted shall be prohibited from changing their votes and the vote shall be declared final.

4.) The PPT shall number and track all amendments offered during the course of each Senate session. The designated number shall begin an with S for the Senate Chamber followed by the number of the present Senate, followed by a colon and then a number displaying at least two digits beginning with "01" and increasing until the end of the session.

5.) The presiding officer shall have authority to correct grammar and formatting of legislation, provided that such technical changes do not alter the intended meaning of the legislation.

Article 4: Debate

1.) After a piece of legislation is introduced to the Senate floor, debate shall begin immediately. Debate on the legislation shall last for no less than 120 hours. The Senate may waive the 120-hour requirement on non-controversial legislation by unanimous consent. To waive the 120-hour requirement, the presiding officer must request unanimous consent to waive the minimum debate time requirement and provide 24 hours for a Senator to object to this request. If the 120-hour requirement is waived, the presiding officer shall immediately open a final vote.

2.) The sponsor of a piece of legislation may at any time withdraw their her sponsorship. In addition, when the sponsor is no longer a Senator, their sponsorship shall be revoked automatically. If no member of the Senate moves to assume sponsorship of the legislation within 48 hours, the legislation shall be tabled automatically.

3.) Once a piece of legislation has been on the floor for 120 hours, any Senator may motion for a final vote. If no objection is made against such a motion within 24 hours, a final vote shall be opened. If an objection is made, then a vote shall be opened on ending debate. The concurrence of three-fourths of the Senate shall be required to end debate, unless the legislation had been on the floor for at least 336 hours or debate had ceased for at least 24 hours prior to the motion for a final vote. Should the Senate vote to end debate, a final vote shall be opened.

4.) When debate on legislation has halted for longer than 24 hours and the legislation has been on the floor for more than 120 hours, any Senator may call for a vote on said legislation. The presiding officer shall open a vote if no other member of the Senate objects within 24 hours of the call for a vote. When the legislation has been on the floor for more than 120 hours, any Senator may motion for cloture. Upon the concurrence of two-thirds of the Senate, the Senate shall end debate, and proceed to a final vote. If the legislation has been on the floor for more than 336 hours, or debate has ceased for 24 hours, a simple majority is needed in order to end the debates. The presiding officer shall then open a final vote.

Article 5: Motions to Table

1.) Any Senator can, during a period of debate, with the support of one other Senator, introduce a motion to table the legislation.

2.) The presiding officer shall open a vote on the motion to table. This vote shall last for a maximum of four (4) days during which time the Senators must vote. Voting may be declared final at any time if the motion to table has been approved or rejected.

3.) For the motion to table to pass, two-thirds of those voting (excluding abstentions) must support the motion.

4.) Tabled legislation shall be taken off the Senate floor by the President Pro Tempore.

Article 6: Final Votes

1.) Final Votes and veto overrides votes shall last for a maximum of 4 days (i.e. 96 hours). A final vote may be ended earlier than 96 hours:

a. If the vote has a majority to pass or fail, then the Presiding officer may call 24 hours for Senators to vote or change their votes.
 
b. If all Senators have voted and the result is unanimous for or against, then the Presiding Officer may end the vote immediately.

2.) If a bill has been vetoed, a Senator has 96 hours to motion for a veto override. A two-thirds majority of the members of the Senate is needed in order to override a veto.

3.) If a redraft is presented, the original sponsor shall have 96 hours after it is offered to accept the redraft or reject it and request an override. If the redraft is rejected by the Senate, the sponsor may than either motion to resume debate on the bill or withdraw the bill from the floor. If the original sponsor shall have left the chamber, the presiding officer shall allow for someone to assume sponsorship as with a normal bill, with the 96 hours commencing after it is completed.

4.) Veto Override and Redraft proceedings shall not be conducted in a slot and thus not subjected to any limits on the amount of legislation on the floor, but shall be conducted in their original threads.

Article 7: Confirmation Hearing

1.) Once a nomination is made by the President, it shall be brought to the floor immediately by the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall then open a confirmation hearing for presidential nominees immediately following the president's announcement of the nomination.

2.) Each hearing shall last for at least four days (i.e. 96 hours). The hearing may be abbreviated according to the unanimous consent rules outlined in Article III: Debate.

3.) The vote shall last for a maximum of four days (96 hours). No Senator shall be prohibited from voting until after the nominee has received enough votes to pass or fail confirmation, at which point vote changes shall be prohibited.

Article 8: Expulsion and Censure of a sitting Senator

1.) Senators can be subject to either Censure (formal statement of disapproval) or Expulsion by their peers, so long as reasonable justification exists in the form of unethical or corrupt behavior, inactivity, treason and such other offenses or behavior.

2.) Censure proceedings shall be initiated if at least nine Senators have sponsored a motion of Censure, introduced in the Legislative Introduction Thread, against one of their Senate colleagues, citing the motives of why said Senator should be censored.

3.) The President Pro Tempore, or, if he is the subject of the motion, the Deputy President Pro Tempore shall open a thread and commence the debates. Debates shall last for no less than 96 hours. After the debates have elapsed, the President Pro Tempore or Deputy President Pro Tempore shall open a vote, which shall last for 96 hours. The assent of two-thirds of the Senate is required for the Senator to be censored, in which case they will lose their seniority.

4.) Expulsion proceedings shall be initiated if:

a.) a Senator has not posted anything on the Atlas Fantasy Government board for 336 consecutive hours and has not posted a valid Leave of Absence (then the time covered by that LOA shall not count toward those 336 hours, but periods of inactivity before and after the LOA shall count as a continuous period, provided there are no interceding posts).

b.) Two Senators have sponsored an article of expulsion, introduced in the Legislative Introduction Thread, against one of their Senate colleagues

5.) The President Pro Tempore shall open a thread and commence the debates. Debates shall last at least 96 hours. After the debates have elapsed, the President Pro Tempore shall open a vote, which shall last for a maximum of 3 days. When the articles of expulsion have enough votes to pass or fail, the President Pro Tempore shall announce that he or she will close the vote in 24 hours and that any Senator who wishes to change their vote must do so during that interval. In order to expel the Senator, a two-third majority of the sitting Senators is needed.

Article 9: Impeachment Trials

1.) After the Senate has passed an article of impeachment by three-fifths of the voting Senators, the Chief Justice shall convene the Senate to try the impeached official.

2.) A two-thirds majority of the members of the Senate is needed in order to convict any impeached executive or judicial officer of the federal government.

3.) If a Senator objects to the proceedings to a final vote, they may object and require a three-fifths majority before moving to a Final Vote.

Article 10: Rules Disputes

1.) The Senate may elect to suspend any section of these rules at any time with the consent of two-thirds of sitting Senators.

2.) The presiding officer may unilaterally suspend any section of these rules at any time, unless another Senator objects. If a Senator objects, suspending the rules shall require the consent of two-thirds of sitting Senators.

Article 11: Relationship within the Senate

1.) The President of the Senate shall be in charge of overseeing the Senate.

2.) When a bill passes the Senate, the PPT shall notify the President of the Senate of its passage.

3.) A bill shall be sent to the president after it has been approved by the Senate.
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« Reply #79 on: July 03, 2021, 06:21:51 PM »

Good catch with the Grammar, that has been standard for some time. I would even correct minor spelling in my PMs to the House, which was rather late to be doing that. Tongue
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« Reply #80 on: July 03, 2021, 06:22:29 PM »

Can we get some other input of the cloture threshold?
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« Reply #81 on: July 03, 2021, 06:51:04 PM »

I support a 3/5 threshold.
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« Reply #82 on: July 03, 2021, 07:53:15 PM »

Why can't the VP replace the Dean?
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« Reply #83 on: July 03, 2021, 07:59:29 PM »

As a simple majority for cloture is required after a bill has been on the floor for long enough, I'm satisfied with either a 3/5 or 2/3 cloture requirement.
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« Reply #84 on: July 03, 2021, 08:06:22 PM »


Scott basically already slotted most of its responsibilities over to the VPship.
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« Reply #85 on: July 03, 2021, 08:48:31 PM »

3/5 threshold seems fine to me. Higher thresholds can be annoying when it comes to low turnout votes.
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« Reply #86 on: July 03, 2021, 09:48:53 PM »

Aaaaaaaand the 3/5 threshold.

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Official Senate Procedures and Rules for Operation (OSPR)

Definitions

1.) Legislation is defined as any Bill, Amendment, or Resolution to a current Act, Procedural Resolution, or Constitutional Amendment.

2.) In all past, present and future instances of the terms, a Bill is defined as a piece of legislation that is awaiting or is presently in debate on the Senate floor. An Act is defined as a Bill that has achieved passage into Law.

3.) The Dean of the Senate is defined as the serving Senator, who is not the President Pro Tempore, with the longest continuous service in the Senate in their present stint of service. For the purposes of this clause, continuous service begins at the moment of swearing-in in the first term of the stint of service. The Dean of the Senate may pass the title, powers and responsibilities of the Dean of the Senate, to the next longest serving Senator for any reason whatsoever.

4.) A quorum is defined as the minimum number of members of the Senate that must be present at any of its meetings to make the proceedings of that meeting valid, which must be no fewer than ten members.

Article 1: Officers of the Senate

1) The Vice President shall be the President of the Senate.

a.) The President of the Senate shall keep a Senate Noticeboard, where the PPT shall update this board with recent events on their respective chamber’s legislation.

b.) The President of the Senate shall also track the activity of legislation of the Senate by posting an ‘Activity Tracker’ detailing the Senate slots, Rejected and Passed Legislation, along with the current Senatorial queue.

2.) The Vice President shall convene the Senate to elect a President Pro Tempore on the first day of each legislative session and when the office of President Pro Tempore is vacant. Otherwise, the most senior Senator (seniority shall be determined by length of continuous service) who isn't on Leave of Absence and has posted on the forum in the preceding 168 hours, or the Senator chosen by the most senior Senator if they are on a leave of absence, shall carry out this duty as Dean of the Senate. The Senate shall elect a President Pro Tempore from among its members by majority consent with the Vice President being the tiebreaker. The Vice President shall retain the powers and prerogatives as the President Pro Tempore until the election of the President Pro Tempore. If all of the Vice President, President Pro Tempore, and Deputy President Pro Tempore are either vacant or unavailable, these powers shall be absorbed by the Dean of the Senate until the election of the President Pro Tempore.

a) If there is a serving Deputy President Pro Tempore, appointed during the same session of the Senate, they shall instead maintain the powers and prerogatives of the President Pro Tempore and shall be responsible for administering the vote for President Pro Tempore in the event of a vacancy.

b) If the official responsible for the vote falls behind by over 24 hours, the President of the Senate shall take over administration in their stead.

3.) The PPT, after taking their oath of office, must appoint a successor should they become inactive. This successor shall be named the Deputy PPT, and will retain all of the powers of the PPT, if the PPT becomes inactive for over 120 hours or is on an LOA. In case of the PPT resigning or being deposed, the Deputy PPT (or, should none currently exist, the President of the Senate) will serve as Acting PPT with full powers until a new PPT is elected.

4.) The President Pro Tempore will be subject to a Motion of No Confidence should his peers decide it, said proceeding being initiated if at least six Senators have sponsored a Motion of No Confidence, introduced in the Legislative Introduction Thread, against the PPT, citing the motives of why the PPT should be removed from his office.

5.) The Dean of the Senate shall open a thread and commence the debates. Debates shall last at least for 96 hours. After the debates have elapsed, the Dean of the Senate shall open a vote, which shall last for 96 hours. A two-thirds majority of the sitting Senators is needed for the motion to succeed, at which point the concerned Senator will immediately cease to be PPT. Only one Motion of No Confidence can be introduced against a given PPT per legislative session.

6.) The President Pro Tempore shall retain the powers and prerogatives as the President of the Senate under the following circumstances:

-A publicly announced absence by the President of the Senate from the Atlas Forum.

- If the President of the Senate has not posted on the Atlas/Talk Elections Forum for seven consecutive days.

- During any period of time when no person is presently holding the office of President of the Senate

-The President of the Senate should be absent by reason of exercising responsibility as Acting President under the Constitution.

-A publicly announced conferral of such powers by the President of the Senate.

Article 2: Introducing Legislation

1.) The President of the Senate shall keep a thread on the Fantasy Government board for introducing legislation. This thread shall be known as the Senate Legislation Introduction Thread. Sitting Senators may post in this thread. The President Pro Tempore shall maintain a record listing all sponsored legislation in the Legislation Introduction Thread.

2.) If the PPT determines that a piece of legislation is functionally impractical, frivolous, or is directly unconstitutional, they may, in a public post on the Legislation Introduction thread, remove said legislation from the Senate floor. The sponsoring Senator of the legislation shall have ninety-six (96) hours to challenge this action in a public post, and with the concurrence of one-third (1/3) of office-holding Senators in the affirmative, may override the actions of the PPT. (Nasolation clause)

3.) 20 threads about legislation may be open for voting and debate simultaneously.

a.) The first 15 open threads shall be open to all legislation initially regarding bills, resolutions or constitutional amendments. If the sponsor already has two or more pieces of legislation on the Senate floor, legislation from Senators who do not shall take priority until all such other legislation is completed. The PPT shall be the Presiding Officer for these open threads.

b.) The sixteenth slot shall be reserved for national emergencies and administered by either the President of the Senate or the PPT.

c.) The seventeenth slot shall be reserved for budgetary legislation and administered by either the President of the Senate or the PPT.

d.) The eighteenth and nineteenth slots shall be reserved for the President of the Republic of Atlasia and administered by either the President of the Senate or the PPT.

e.) The twentieth slot shall be reserved for public submissions and shall be introduced by the President of the Senate.

4.) A legislation is no longer on the Senate Floor when it has been tabled, rejected, or passed by the members of the Senate.

5.) If at any time the original sponsor vacates his office as Senator, all legislation introduced in the Legislation Introduction Thread shall, within a week of the vacancy, be declared withdrawn by the PPT by public post, if no Senator sponsors the legislation. If a piece of legislation has been introduced on the Senate floor, any office-holding Senator may assume sponsorship.

6.) Co-sponsors of legislation under consideration shall have no power to withdraw legislation nor contest withdrawal of legislation by the original sponsor. Any office-holding Senator may assume sponsorship of the legislation within 96 hours after the original sponsor has motioned to withdraw. Once a motion to assume sponsorship has been filed by a Senator, Senators shall have 24 hours to object to this motion. If any Senator objects, the PPT shall open a vote on the motion lasting until a majority has voted for or against the motion, but not more than 96 hours. If the motion is rejected, the bill shall be removed from the floor.

7.) All resolutions seeking to amend the constitution must be introduced along with a passage detailing what is being changed in the Constitution and why, called the Amendment Explanation. All amendments to the resolution, must change the explanation if they change the resolution so as to be inconsistent with it. This shall not infringe on the presiding officer's ability to correct for grammar and formatting issues, nor impede the presiding officer's ability to update and maintain a mission statement in the outer quote box of a given bill or resolution.

8.) All legislation on the Senate floor shall be given a distinct designation. The format of this designation shall denote in the following order "S" for the Senate chamber, followed by "B" for a bill or "R" for a Resolution. Immediately following the second letter will be number of the present senate at the time of introduction, followed by a dash if administered by the President of the Senate, and then a number displaying at least two digits beginning with "01" and increasing until the end of the session.

Article 3: Amendments

1.) During the course of debate on legislation, any sitting Senator may offer amendments to the legislation. The President Pro Tempore may remove amendments from consideration that are functionally impractical, frivolous, directly unconstitutional, or lack clear intent regarding the changes to be made. The amendment sponsor shall have 24 hours to object to the decision and may overturn the action with the concurrence of 1/3rd of his fellow Senators. Unless stated otherwise in the amendment, components of the underlying legislation not referenced in an amendment will remain unchanged.

2.) The legislation's primary sponsor shall judge the amendment(s) in relation to their intent with the legislation. If judged friendly by the sponsor, the PPT shall give twenty four hours for objections to the amendment, after which, with no objections having been entered the amendment shall be considered as passed.

3.) If judged hostile by the sponsor, or if a Senator has objected, a vote shall be started by the PPT once the amendment has been on the floor twenty four hours. The vote shall last for three days or until a majority has voted in favor or against the amendment, at which point Senators who have voted shall be prohibited from changing their votes and the vote shall be declared final.

4.) The PPT shall number and track all amendments offered during the course of each Senate session. The designated number shall begin an with S for the Senate Chamber followed by the number of the present Senate, followed by a colon and then a number displaying at least two digits beginning with "01" and increasing until the end of the session.

5.) The presiding officer shall have authority to correct grammar and formatting of legislation, provided that such technical changes do not alter the intended meaning of the legislation.

Article 4: Debate

1.) After a piece of legislation is introduced to the Senate floor, debate shall begin immediately. Debate on the legislation shall last for no less than 120 hours. The Senate may waive the 120-hour requirement on non-controversial legislation by unanimous consent. To waive the 120-hour requirement, the presiding officer must request unanimous consent to waive the minimum debate time requirement and provide 24 hours for a Senator to object to this request. If the 120-hour requirement is waived, the presiding officer shall immediately open a final vote.

2.) The sponsor of a piece of legislation may at any time withdraw their her sponsorship. In addition, when the sponsor is no longer a Senator, their sponsorship shall be revoked automatically. If no member of the Senate moves to assume sponsorship of the legislation within 48 hours, the legislation shall be tabled automatically.

3.) Once a piece of legislation has been on the floor for 120 hours, any Senator may motion for a final vote. If no objection is made against such a motion within 24 hours, a final vote shall be opened. If an objection is made, then a vote shall be opened on ending debate. The concurrence of three-fourths of the Senate shall be required to end debate, unless the legislation had been on the floor for at least 336 hours or debate had ceased for at least 24 hours prior to the motion for a final vote. Should the Senate vote to end debate, a final vote shall be opened.

4.) When debate on legislation has halted for longer than 24 hours and the legislation has been on the floor for more than 120 hours, any Senator may call for a vote on said legislation. The presiding officer shall open a vote if no other member of the Senate objects within 24 hours of the call for a vote. When the legislation has been on the floor for more than 120 hours, any Senator may motion for cloture. Upon the concurrence of three-fifths of the Senate, the Senate shall end debate, and proceed to a final vote. If the legislation has been on the floor for more than 336 hours, or debate has ceased for 24 hours, a simple majority is needed in order to end the debates. The presiding officer shall then open a final vote.

Article 5: Motions to Table

1.) Any Senator can, during a period of debate, with the support of one other Senator, introduce a motion to table the legislation.

2.) The presiding officer shall open a vote on the motion to table. This vote shall last for a maximum of four (4) days during which time the Senators must vote. Voting may be declared final at any time if the motion to table has been approved or rejected.

3.) For the motion to table to pass, two-thirds of those voting (excluding abstentions) must support the motion.

4.) Tabled legislation shall be taken off the Senate floor by the President Pro Tempore.

Article 6: Final Votes

1.) Final Votes and veto overrides votes shall last for a maximum of 4 days (i.e. 96 hours). A final vote may be ended earlier than 96 hours:

a. If the vote has a majority to pass or fail, then the Presiding officer may call 24 hours for Senators to vote or change their votes.
 
b. If all Senators have voted and the result is unanimous for or against, then the Presiding Officer may end the vote immediately.

2.) If a bill has been vetoed, a Senator has 96 hours to motion for a veto override. A two-thirds majority of the members of the Senate is needed in order to override a veto.

3.) If a redraft is presented, the original sponsor shall have 96 hours after it is offered to accept the redraft or reject it and request an override. If the redraft is rejected by the Senate, the sponsor may than either motion to resume debate on the bill or withdraw the bill from the floor. If the original sponsor shall have left the chamber, the presiding officer shall allow for someone to assume sponsorship as with a normal bill, with the 96 hours commencing after it is completed.

4.) Veto Override and Redraft proceedings shall not be conducted in a slot and thus not subjected to any limits on the amount of legislation on the floor, but shall be conducted in their original threads.

Article 7: Confirmation Hearing

1.) Once a nomination is made by the President, it shall be brought to the floor immediately by the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall then open a confirmation hearing for presidential nominees immediately following the president's announcement of the nomination.

2.) Each hearing shall last for at least four days (i.e. 96 hours). The hearing may be abbreviated according to the unanimous consent rules outlined in Article III: Debate.

3.) The vote shall last for a maximum of four days (96 hours). No Senator shall be prohibited from voting until after the nominee has received enough votes to pass or fail confirmation, at which point vote changes shall be prohibited.

Article 8: Expulsion and Censure of a sitting Senator

1.) Senators can be subject to either Censure (formal statement of disapproval) or Expulsion by their peers, so long as reasonable justification exists in the form of unethical or corrupt behavior, inactivity, treason and such other offenses or behavior.

2.) Censure proceedings shall be initiated if at least nine Senators have sponsored a motion of Censure, introduced in the Legislative Introduction Thread, against one of their Senate colleagues, citing the motives of why said Senator should be censored.

3.) The President Pro Tempore, or, if he is the subject of the motion, the Deputy President Pro Tempore shall open a thread and commence the debates. Debates shall last for no less than 96 hours. After the debates have elapsed, the President Pro Tempore or Deputy President Pro Tempore shall open a vote, which shall last for 96 hours. The assent of two-thirds of the Senate is required for the Senator to be censored, in which case they will lose their seniority.

4.) Expulsion proceedings shall be initiated if:

a.) a Senator has not posted anything on the Atlas Fantasy Government board for 336 consecutive hours and has not posted a valid Leave of Absence (then the time covered by that LOA shall not count toward those 336 hours, but periods of inactivity before and after the LOA shall count as a continuous period, provided there are no interceding posts).

b.) Two Senators have sponsored an article of expulsion, introduced in the Legislative Introduction Thread, against one of their Senate colleagues

5.) The President Pro Tempore shall open a thread and commence the debates. Debates shall last at least 96 hours. After the debates have elapsed, the President Pro Tempore shall open a vote, which shall last for a maximum of 3 days. When the articles of expulsion have enough votes to pass or fail, the President Pro Tempore shall announce that he or she will close the vote in 24 hours and that any Senator who wishes to change their vote must do so during that interval. In order to expel the Senator, a two-third majority of the sitting Senators is needed.

Article 9: Impeachment Trials

1.) After the Senate has passed an article of impeachment by three-fifths of the voting Senators, the Chief Justice shall convene the Senate to try the impeached official.

2.) A two-thirds majority of the members of the Senate is needed in order to convict any impeached executive or judicial officer of the federal government.

3.) If a Senator objects to the proceedings to a final vote, they may object and require a three-fifths majority before moving to a Final Vote.

Article 10: Rules Disputes

1.) The Senate may elect to suspend any section of these rules at any time with the consent of two-thirds of sitting Senators.

2.) The presiding officer may unilaterally suspend any section of these rules at any time, unless another Senator objects. If a Senator objects, suspending the rules shall require the consent of two-thirds of sitting Senators.

Article 11: Relationship within the Senate

1.) The President of the Senate shall be in charge of overseeing the Senate.

2.) When a bill passes the Senate, the PPT shall notify the President of the Senate of its passage.

3.) A bill shall be sent to the president after it has been approved by the Senate.

Anything else?
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« Reply #87 on: July 03, 2021, 10:49:30 PM »

Seems good to me, though I'll admit I haven't quite gone through it with a fine-toothed comb
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« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2021, 11:50:59 PM »

I don’t get why sponsorship motions should need an objection period. This just stalls debate.
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« Reply #89 on: July 04, 2021, 12:08:07 AM »
« Edited: July 04, 2021, 12:21:38 AM by At-large Senator Joseph Cao »

3.) The Dean of the Senate is defined as the serving Senator, who is not the President pro Tempore, with the longest continuous service in the Senate in his or her present stint of service. For the purposes of this clause, continuous service begins at the moment of swearing-in in the first term of the stint of service. The Dean of the Senate may pass the title, powers and responsibilities of the Dean of the Senate, to the next longest serving Senator for any reason whatsoever.
I would assume this passing of responsibilities is permanent?

I can't speak for the Senate but it's been generally assumed (bad word, bad practice, I know) that all opportunities for the Dean to delegate their responsibilities would be on a temporary basis. OTOH, Razze has never actually delegated his own duties away on either a temporary or permanent basis within my personal recollection.

Poirot once proposed a bill to bypass the Dean for administration of the Speaker elections if the Dean was inactive, which sort of falls under this purview and is illustrative of what it would have entailed: basically the next-most senior representative would take over and yield responsibilities back to the Dean as soon as the vote was over. It never passed obviously but that was the mindset we were working with.

Re: the cloture threshold, I think two-thirds makes marginally more sense. From a theoretical standpoint this will bring it in line with the threshold for a tabling vote; it should not be easier for a bad piece of legislation to be muscled through than for a bad piece of legislation to be tabled. Three-fifths in the current Senate is either ten or eleven people and, in my view, rather too close to the majority for comfort.
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« Reply #90 on: July 04, 2021, 07:53:56 AM »

I don’t get why sponsorship motions should need an objection period. This just stalls debate.

I’ve never understood this either- especially as we will no longer have the need to sponsor a bill from the other place.

All bills being introduced will be introduced by someone in the chamber (with an exception for administration bills)
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« Reply #91 on: July 04, 2021, 08:40:47 AM »

I don’t get why sponsorship motions should need an objection period. This just stalls debate.

The theoretical reason is to prevent sponsorship being taken over by an opponent of the bill who seeks to deliberately sabotage it.
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« Reply #92 on: July 04, 2021, 11:26:48 AM »

I don’t get why sponsorship motions should need an objection period. This just stalls debate.

The reasons could be to force the tabling of the bill or because someone else wants it themselves.

I have never seen a situation where it necessarily has to stall debate. There is nothing that stops someone from posting an advocacy during that 24 hour period and I have overlapped sponsorship motions and final vote motions in the past.
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« Reply #93 on: July 04, 2021, 11:27:13 AM »

Re: the cloture threshold, I think two-thirds makes marginally more sense. From a theoretical standpoint this will bring it in line with the threshold for a tabling vote; it should not be easier for a bad piece of legislation to be muscled through than for a bad piece of legislation to be tabled. Three-fifths in the current Senate is either ten or eleven people and, in my view, rather too close to the majority for comfort.
That's essentially my biggest problem with using 3/5 for cloture -- at the end of the day, it's only one or two less senators than 2/3, however, it's also closer to a majority.
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« Reply #94 on: July 04, 2021, 11:28:45 AM »

I don’t get why sponsorship motions should need an objection period. This just stalls debate.

The theoretical reason is to prevent sponsorship being taken over by an opponent of the bill who seeks to deliberately sabotage it.

Yes, assuming sponsorship gives you opportunities to steer the course of the debate and to "friendly amend it" while people aren't paying attention. Harder with 18 member chamber, but it used to happen in the old Senate with 10 people, the House with 9 etc. 
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« Reply #95 on: July 04, 2021, 03:45:10 PM »

Are people going to want a separate thread when we have a final vote on the rules package?

I'm looking towards having a vote within the next 24 or 48 hours.
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« Reply #96 on: July 04, 2021, 05:40:52 PM »

Are people going to want a separate thread when we have a final vote on the rules package?

I'm looking towards having a vote within the next 24 or 48 hours.

I don't see why that's necessary but I also don't really care either way as long as people show up, preferably without needing others to babysit them by asking them to do their jobs all the time.
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« Reply #97 on: July 04, 2021, 07:11:45 PM »

On a related note, I would advise each party/coalition to delegate whipping responsibilities to one person. In a divided Senate, it is in the interest of all the parties to miss as few votes as possible. Also, presiding officers should not be expected to PM everybody for every bill, hearing, vote, etc. as Wulfric suggested.
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« Reply #98 on: July 04, 2021, 09:57:37 PM »

Cloture should not be an unreasonable feat, this is the reason I support a 3/5ths threshold. Anything to enhance efficiency is welcome.

Also, I have a bill introduced in the queue for this new session as well.
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« Reply #99 on: July 04, 2021, 11:44:15 PM »

On a related note, I would advise each party/coalition to delegate whipping responsibilities to one person. In a divided Senate, it is in the interest of all the parties to miss as few votes as possible. Also, presiding officers should not be expected to PM everybody for every bill, hearing, vote, etc. as Wulfric suggested.


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