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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2021, 03:16:36 PM »
« edited: July 04, 2021, 03:21:06 PM by MR. KAYNE WEST »

delete my post and ban me - but I think the dems have to seriously start threatening republican justices with Terre Haute or Canon City.


See my comments above with Biden and Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas, Biden asked Anita Hill why now, just like Cosby accusers waited like Anita Hill to go against Thomas and Cosby, WHY NOW


Obviously, they were paid off the females like Paula Jones and Monica Lewinsky and Linda Tripp to go Against powerful men, that's WHY, NOW

Biden and Clinton are Progressives and better then Trump party but they're scandal prone with Hunter Biden and Lewinsky and cut from same cloth
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« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2021, 03:31:38 PM »

Museums as History books will judge Biden Harshly on the Clarence Thomas contradiction, it's been the single reason, THOMAS, as the sole REASON SINCE 19911 THAT THE CRT BEEN ABLE TO STAY CONSERVATIVE, HE HAS BEEN ON THE CRT SO LONG

Since both John Kerry and Hillary didn't win the key Elections and Ginsburg didn't retire like she should of under Obama, thinking Hillary was gonna get elected that's why Ginsburg went after Trump so hard
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« Reply #52 on: July 05, 2021, 05:07:19 PM »


Young people get so impatient. Chill out.

80s is the new 70s, so he's basically 72. Seems to have all his faculties. And he's healthy.

Where is the respect?

It's not about his age, it's about control of Congress and the country's future. Democrats have a trifecta right now, why risk another McConnell stonewall in the future to get his successor confirmed? He seems blissfully ignorant of the new dynamics of judicial confirmations in our country. Whether he's healthy or not, this really should be part of any Justice nominated by a Democratic President in their calculation of when to retire.

Well, the guy deserves to retire when he wants to retire. For him, he probably feels that he deserves respect for all the good service he has provided for the country. You and those who think like you are playing politics with someone's life here. Maybe he's selfish, maybe he's not. Maybe he feels he has some good years left to offer.

Maybe our strategy should be to get rid of McConnell. How about that? Or to change the rules of the Supreme Court and who can serve and for how long.

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The Constitution states that Justices "shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour." This means that the Justices hold office as long as they choose and can only be removed from office by impeachment.

I agree that both of those remedies are probably more ideal, but also much more fantastical. They are not going to happen in the days before the 2022 midterms, and probably not even after.
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« Reply #53 on: July 05, 2021, 08:47:50 PM »

This is what happens when you live under the delusion that the court is not political. He's demonstrating a really disturbing inability to learn from what happened when Ginsburg didn't retire when Obama could have chosen her successor. Kagan must be pulling her hair out.
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« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2021, 09:20:19 PM »
« Edited: July 05, 2021, 09:23:22 PM by MR. KAYNE WEST »

This is what happens when you live under the delusion that the court is not political. He's demonstrating a really disturbing inability to learn from what happened when Ginsburg didn't retire when Obama could have chosen her successor. Kagan must be pulling her hair out.

You do realize Ginsburg was hospitalized and had her colon removed before she died, right, BREYER DOESN'T HAVE COLON CANCER AND NO SURGERY TO REMOVE COLON OR LARGE INTESTINE, the same procedure Pope Francis is suffering from


Biden is likely to get reelected, Ginsburg didn't retire she thought Hillary was gonna be Elected and she would.finally serve on a 5/4 Crt with Garland
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« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2021, 09:27:21 PM »

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Maybe our strategy should be to get rid of McConnell. How about that? Or to change the rules of the Supreme Court and who can serve and for how long.

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The Constitution states that Justices "shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour." This means that the Justices hold office as long as they choose and can only be removed from office by impeachment.

I agree that both of those remedies are probably more ideal, but also much more fantastical. They are not going to happen in the days before the 2022 midterms, and probably not even after.

If the Republicans were a legitimate conservative opposition party, this might be a good strategy. But they're not. So we need to pull out all the stops.
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« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2021, 09:48:18 PM »

This is what happens when you live under the delusion that the court is not political. He's demonstrating a really disturbing inability to learn from what happened when Ginsburg didn't retire when Obama could have chosen her successor. Kagan must be pulling her hair out.

You do realize Ginsburg was hospitalized and had her colon removed before she died, right, BREYER DOESN'T HAVE COLON CANCER AND NO SURGERY TO REMOVE COLON OR LARGE INTESTINE, the same procedure Pope Francis is suffering from


Biden is likely to get reelected, Ginsburg didn't retire she thought Hillary was gonna be Elected and she would.finally serve on a 5/4 Crt with Garland

I'm well aware of Ginsburg's medical history and Breyer's comparable lack thereof. Not what I was getting at at all.

I was referring to the fact that President Obama had her to the White House for lunch and gently suggested that she retire before the '14 midterms so he could pick her replacement while he still had a majority in the Senate. She could have done so then and all but picked her successor.

Like I said, Breyer has - disturbingly- learned nothing.
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« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2021, 12:41:11 AM »

Ginsberg was also expecting Hillary Clinton to win the Election over Trump, remember Bill Clinton appointed her and she would serve on a Secular Crt and implement a liberal wishlist, anti gun rights, SSM, getting rid of Citizens United and Gerrymandering, FINALLY. She was a Law Clerk and Student of Thurgood Marshall

THATS WHY SHE WENT AFTER TRUMP, BUT WHO WOULD BE THE ONE TO LOSE TO TRUMP, BENGHAZI HILLARY

We don't know how Ginsberg died, she was speaking and talking before she died and most people go blind or deaf or stop speaking, her children never go on TV to talk about their moms death. She wasn't in hospice either
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« Reply #58 on: July 06, 2021, 02:57:55 AM »

This is what happens when you live under the delusion that the court is not political. He's demonstrating a really disturbing inability to learn from what happened when Ginsburg didn't retire when Obama could have chosen her successor. Kagan must be pulling her hair out.

Maybe he just doesn't care about any of this, like the balance of Justices appointed by Democrats and Republicans. Maybe he just wants to do his job and that's it.
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« Reply #59 on: July 06, 2021, 03:34:25 AM »

If we get 55 votes we can Pack the Crts
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« Reply #60 on: July 06, 2021, 05:30:23 PM »

Ginsberg was also expecting Hillary Clinton to win the Election over Trump.

That was a reasonable guess in 2016, but she didn't retire in 2013-14 when the Dems easily had Senate majority. Back then (and we didn't know Trump would run), one should expect of much lower than 50-50 of Dems winning the Presidency in 2016. since the pattern beginning with Eisenhower in 1952 was of eight-years for each party in the White House, with that pattern only "failing" in 1980 and 1988 (and now in 2020).
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« Reply #61 on: July 06, 2021, 06:45:31 PM »

CJ Roberts likes all his members and he said that after the passing of Ginnsberg and urges D's and Rs to not retire, Ginnsberg didn't have her colon removed until she was on her death bed

That's why Breyer hasnt retired Roberts, once again urges his members not to retire

But, children of SCOTUS don't appear on TV, except for Scalia children whom were very vocal about how their father died, all the other children stay away, we don't know how Ginsberg died she wasn't in hospice, usually when you die from colon cancer, you go into hospice, GINSBERG SAID SHE AINT RETIRING BECAUSE SHE WORKS OUT
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« Reply #62 on: July 06, 2021, 07:41:34 PM »

The only thing separating Democrats from complete dominance since Republican policies are so unpopular is the national party's stupidity. 2020 was almost a choke, 2016 was, along with 2000 and 2004, 1988 was winnable, 1976 was almost a fail (somehow) etc.
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« Reply #63 on: July 06, 2021, 10:19:30 PM »
« Edited: July 06, 2021, 10:31:27 PM by MR. KAYNE WEST »

The only thing separating Democrats from complete dominance since Republican policies are so unpopular is the national party's stupidity. 2020 was almost a choke, 2016 was, along with 2000 and 2004, 1988 was winnable, 1976 was almost a fail (somehow) etc.

You know that's not true, we still can implement alot of our agenda after 2022 Crt Packing, DC Statehood and VR if we net gain seats

Lol it's the Rs whom have only won 3/8  NatL Elections and haven't won the NPVI since 2016, the Rs don't have anything yet, stop measuring the drapes for the H, until you actually control the H

Biden leads Trump and DeSantis by 7 pts, you don't have anyone else but a retread Trump, LOL
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« Reply #64 on: July 06, 2021, 10:50:45 PM »

The only thing separating Democrats from complete dominance since Republican policies are so unpopular is the national party's stupidity. 2020 was almost a choke, 2016 was, along with 2000 and 2004, 1988 was winnable, 1976 was almost a fail (somehow) etc.

You know that's not true, we still can implement alot of our agenda after 2022 Crt Packing, DC Statehood and VR if we net gain seats

Lol it's the Rs whom have only won 3/8  NatL Elections and haven't won the NPVI since 2016, the Rs don't have anything yet, stop measuring the drapes for the H, until you actually control the H

Biden leads Trump and DeSantis by 7 pts, you don't have anyone else but a retread Trump, LOL

I'm talking about past elections. Looking at your old posts, you were never the ERM pessimist about the Democrat's chances.
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« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2021, 03:17:26 AM »

Trump had help from Russia whom found the 30K emails and exposed them they Wikileaks, do you honestly believe that without Putin, Trump can beat any D, NO, that's why he lost in a ligitimate Election without Johnson to Biden.


Trump wanted Cuban to run to take votes like Johnson did with Hillary to Biden, but Cuban refused
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« Reply #66 on: July 15, 2021, 08:42:58 AM »

Apparently he has no plans to retire within the foreseeable future. Question is whether Dems actively try to push him out next year if a GOP senate takeover seems somewhat likely.

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« Reply #67 on: July 15, 2021, 08:58:05 AM »

D's cannot push Breyer out they will win WI and PA in Midterms in the Senate and if it's a wave win OH, NC and MO Senate Seats, D's are in Good position to keep the Senate in 2022
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« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2021, 09:08:07 AM »

Apparently he has no plans to retire within the foreseeable future. Question is whether Dems actively try to push him out next year if a GOP senate takeover seems somewhat likely.



As I've said before, it will be a misfortune for Democrats if Breyer decides to go out feet first, like Ginsburg did.
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« Reply #69 on: July 15, 2021, 10:02:08 AM »

I'm starting to see Breyer as an HP. It was one thing for Ginsburg not to retire. It's quite another for Breyer to refuse to after seeing what happened to Ginsburg.
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« Reply #70 on: July 15, 2021, 10:08:37 AM »

I'm starting to see Breyer as an HP. It was one thing for Ginsburg not to retire. It's quite another for Breyer to refuse to after seeing what happened to Ginsburg.

It's very disappointing, I completely agree. I think Breyer sees himself as kind of an institutionalist and believes justices should retire whenever they want or free from political calculations. In that sense, he's like Manchin, who so much believes in presumed "institutionalism" that he overlooks the very fact McConnell and the GOP are playing by a different set of rules what may ultimately destroy the institutions they want to protect. Breyer doesn't want SCOTUS too political and hasn't realized it already is. Institutionalism of that kind only works when all participants play by the same rules.
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« Reply #71 on: July 15, 2021, 10:18:47 AM »

I'm starting to see Breyer as an HP. It was one thing for Ginsburg not to retire. It's quite another for Breyer to refuse to after seeing what happened to Ginsburg.

It's very disappointing, I completely agree. I think Breyer sees himself as kind of an institutionalist and believes justices should retire whenever they want or free from political calculations. In that sense, he's like Manchin, who so much believes in presumed "institutionalism" that he overlooks the very fact McConnell and the GOP are playing by a different set of rules what may ultimately destroy the institutions they want to protect. Breyer doesn't want SCOTUS too political and hasn't realized it already is. Institutionalism of that kind only works when all participants play by the same rules.

Feinstein our SEN Said that Breyer shouldn't retire and said it would be a great loss to lose Breyer

He really has until 2024 to retire D's are gonna net gain seats in SEN WI AND PA 51(49 SEN probably going RED GA in a Runoff
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« Reply #72 on: July 15, 2021, 10:37:32 AM »

It's pretty obvious he will retire next year once Kentaji Jackson who clerkship for him gets 1 term as a circuit court justice
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« Reply #73 on: July 15, 2021, 11:40:08 PM »

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« Reply #74 on: July 15, 2021, 11:49:08 PM »

No need for him to retire, walk away, whatever before the Dems actually lose the Senate (which might not even happen). In the interim, if he dies he'll be replaced by a liberal.
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