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« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2021, 06:35:20 PM »

Endorsing Harris, but will be okay with Hogan or Christie
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« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2021, 10:42:10 PM »

Tulsi is 100% running against Harris in this situation. They HATE each other.
Also LOL at Bush running against Hawley, she'll lose by 20 points

Tulsi isn’t running for president in this TL, but she will be back eventually for a big surprise. Stay tuned Wink

And Bush is probably the most likely candidate to run against Hawley anyways, she hates his guts like you said Tulsi hates Harris. It’ll be a lot of fun watching so much money get spent into getting rid of Hawley only for him to win by 20.
National Security Advisor Tulsi Gabbard?
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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2021, 01:35:39 AM »

Tulsi is 100% running against Harris in this situation. They HATE each other.
Also LOL at Bush running against Hawley, she'll lose by 20 points

Tulsi isn’t running for president in this TL, but she will be back eventually for a big surprise. Stay tuned Wink

And Bush is probably the most likely candidate to run against Hawley anyways, she hates his guts like you said Tulsi hates Harris. It’ll be a lot of fun watching so much money get spent into getting rid of Hawley only for him to win by 20.
National Security Advisor Tulsi Gabbard?

You'll hear the surprise when it happens
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« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2021, 12:48:17 PM »
« Edited: August 09, 2021, 09:28:01 PM by Lone Star Politics »


June 2, 2023: Ron DeSantis Gets Major Endorsement from Donald Trump Jr.


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In a tweet, Donald Trump Jr. gave his endorsement to Ron DeSantis, practically confirming Trump Jr. was not running for president in this cycle.

Donald Trump Jr. is the son of former president Donald Trump, whom he has a close relationship with. With Trump Jr.'s endorsement of DeSantis, rumors started swirling that Donald Trump was also going to endorse DeSantis, which would give his campaign a major boost.

While sources close to the former president say he favors DeSantis over the other candidates, he is not expected to make an official endorsement until closer to the first primaries/caucuses.

As for the other Trump children, Eric has also endorsed DeSantis, Ivanka has endorsed Nikki Haley, Tiffany has yet to make an endorsement, and Barron is apolitical (but will likely vote republican in the general election). Mary L. Trump, the niece of Donald Trump, and a devout liberal democrat, has endorsed (and is campaigning for) Kamala Harris.
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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2021, 08:02:20 PM »

Can't wait to see who gets the coveted Tiffany endorsement!
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« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2021, 09:22:59 PM »

Can't wait to see who gets the coveted Tiffany endorsement!

Considering she’s probably the least relevant Trump child, it’s not like hers will really matter all that much.
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« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2021, 09:47:09 PM »

Can't wait to see who gets the coveted Tiffany endorsement!

Considering she’s probably the least relevant Trump child, it’s not like hers will really matter all that much.

Hahaha I know, I was being sarcastic.
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« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2021, 01:48:40 PM »
« Edited: August 12, 2021, 10:34:06 AM by Lone Star Politics »

As it is now June, the deadline for candidate announcements has passed for those seeking to appear in the first debate being held in Houston on August 1st. The second debate in Miami has a deadline as well for participating candidates to announce their candidacy, that being July 1st.

Much of June and July is being used as fundraising and rallying time for all of the candidates. DeSantis seems to be having the most fun, as he, along with Trump brothers Eric and Donald Jr., embarked on a rally tour of Florida, stopping in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Tampa, Jacksonville, Orlando, Pensacola, and Fort Myers. Although DeSantis does plan to campaign outside of Florida, with 4 planned rallies in July, one each in the first 4 primary states. These rallies will be held in Las Vegas, Nevada; Manchester, New Hampshire; Des Moines, Iowa; and Charleston, South Carolina.

Notice how Nevada is mentioned first, that's because Nevada is now the first state in the primaries, with New Hampshire now coming in second. Due to this, it seems as though Las Vegas has become a rallying hub as of late, with seemingly every ballroom in Las Vegas' famous casino resorts hosting a presidential rally of some kind.

Early polling for Nevada shows DeSantis with a steady lead, with Haley in second place, Cotton in third, Hogan in fourth, and everyone else at 2% or lower.

The low performing candidates better hope for a good performance in Houston, or else it's back to irrelevancy for them.
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« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2021, 04:32:50 PM »

Does Romney still plan of seeking re-election to his senate seat?
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« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2021, 10:33:25 AM »

Does Romney still plan of seeking re-election to his senate seat?

Shoot, I knew I should've looked at the laws in Utah first...

I'll have to go change that. Yes he's gonna stay in the senate, but will endorse Nikki Haley for president.
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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2021, 10:36:56 AM »

Does Romney still plan of seeking re-election to his senate seat?

Shoot, I knew I should've looked at the laws in Utah first

I'll have to go change that. Yes he's gonna stay in the senate.

Can you at least find a way to write it into the story?
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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2021, 10:55:10 AM »

Does Romney still plan of seeking re-election to his senate seat?

Shoot, I knew I should've looked at the laws in Utah first

I'll have to go change that. Yes he's gonna stay in the senate.

Can you at least find a way to write it into the story?



June 26, 2023: Mitt Romney Not Running for President, Endorses Nikki Haley


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Senator Mitt Romney (R-UT) has announced that due to seeking re-election in the senate, he will not be running for president as many have speculated. Romney did, however, endorse Nikki Haley.
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« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2021, 10:59:38 AM »

Does Romney still plan of seeking re-election to his senate seat?

Shoot, I knew I should've looked at the laws in Utah first

I'll have to go change that. Yes he's gonna stay in the senate.

Can you at least find a way to write it into the story?



June 26, 2023: Mitt Romney Not Running for President, Endorses Nikki Haley


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Senator Mitt Romney (R-UT) has announced that due to seeking re-election in the senate, he will not be running for president as many have speculated. Romney did, however, endorse Nikki Haley.

I was hoping that for something more on an add on to your deleted post, where Romney reverses course after being reminded he can't run for both president and senate at he same time, and chooses to stay in the senate.
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2021, 11:04:35 AM »

Does Romney still plan of seeking re-election to his senate seat?

Shoot, I knew I should've looked at the laws in Utah first

I'll have to go change that. Yes he's gonna stay in the senate.

Can you at least find a way to write it into the story?



June 26, 2023: Mitt Romney Not Running for President, Endorses Nikki Haley


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Senator Mitt Romney (R-UT) has announced that due to seeking re-election in the senate, he will not be running for president as many have speculated. Romney did, however, endorse Nikki Haley.

I was hoping that for something more on an add on to your deleted post, where Romney reverses course after being reminded he can't run for both president and senate at he same time, and chooses to stay in the senate.

That was more of my knowledge (or lack thereof) of election laws in Utah. I also didn't realize that running for congress and president simultaneously is not allowed in most states except for a select few (those being Ohio, West Virginia, Hawaii, New Jersey, and Romney's old home state of Massachusetts). Here's the link to where I got that info from: https://ballotpedia.org/Running_for_U.S._Congress_and_the_presidency_simultaneously
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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2021, 11:06:21 AM »

Does Romney still plan of seeking re-election to his senate seat?

Shoot, I knew I should've looked at the laws in Utah first

I'll have to go change that. Yes he's gonna stay in the senate.

Can you at least find a way to write it into the story?



June 26, 2023: Mitt Romney Not Running for President, Endorses Nikki Haley


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Senator Mitt Romney (R-UT) has announced that due to seeking re-election in the senate, he will not be running for president as many have speculated. Romney did, however, endorse Nikki Haley.

I was hoping that for something more on an add on to your deleted post, where Romney reverses course after being reminded he can't run for both president and senate at he same time, and chooses to stay in the senate.

That was more of my knowledge (or lack thereof) of election laws in Utah. I also didn't realize that running for congress and president simultaneously is not allowed in most states except for a select few (those being Ohio, West Virginia, Hawaii, New Jersey, and Romney's old home state of Massachusetts).

I just wanted a reversal to be worked into the pre-existing story rather than just being retconned.
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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2021, 11:34:15 AM »
« Edited: August 12, 2021, 12:50:00 PM by Lone Star Politics »


August 1, 2023: First Republican Primary Debates


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Location: Berry Center in Cypress, Texas (suburb of Houston)
Winner(s): DeSantis, Haley
Loser(s): Hogan, Hurd, Sasse, Lindell
Biggest Fight(s) of the Night: DeSantis v. Hogan, Haley v. Lindell

The first republican primary debate was held at the Berry Center outside of Houston, Texas. All major candidates who have announced prior to May 31st participated in the debate.

Highlights:

  • Former Governor Hogan and Governor DeSantis sparred over their responses to the coronavirus pandemic. Hogan defended his record, and attacked DeSantis for "welcoming the virus with open arms." DeSantis hit back, calling Hogan's covid policies "tyrannical", and called Florida a "beacon of freedom on the world stage." DeSantis' comments were exactly what the base wanted to hear, and proved to be a huge kick in the gut to Hogan's campaign. Oddly enough though, Hogan's donation numbers increased among democrats.
  • Mike Lindell, a staunch ally of Donald Trump, was asked by the moderator about his previous theories that Trump would be reinstated into the presidency. Lindell responded saying that the date changes for Trump's quote-on-quote "reinstatement" was all part of a secret plan. Nikki Haley responded to these claims, saying "With all due respect to you and president Trump, your claims are baseless, they are untrue, Donald Trump is not getting reinstated, not now and not ever, and while I am not a fan of the Biden administration, I believe Joe Biden won the 2020 election fair and square." While Haley's comments were praised by many republicans, and even some moderate democrats, they were not well received by much of the Trump base (especially the extreme faction), especially the last part where she says that Biden won fair and square.
  • Hogan, Hurd, and Sasse were criticized for their dismay of Donald Trump, though especially Sasse, who voted to convict Donald Trump in 2021 during Trump's impeachment after the events of 1/6. Hurd had commented during the debate that if he were still in the House after 1/6, he would've voted to impeach Trump. Unsurprisingly, those comments didn't sit very well with the Trump base.
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« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2021, 06:56:00 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2021, 07:00:35 PM by Lone Star Politics »


August 3, 2023: Third and Fourth Republican Primary Debate Dates and Locations Announced

The RNC has announced the dates and locations for the 3rd and 4th republican primary debates.

The 3rd debate will be held on October 12, 2023 at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California. This will be the fourth time the Reagan Library has hosted the republican debates, after 2008, 2012, and 2016.

The 4th debate will be held on November 11, 2023 at the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Rumor has it that this will be the "foreign policy debate" due to it being held on Veterans' Day.



August 9, 2023: Andrew Giuliani Announces 2024 Presidential Bid

Andrew Giuliani has unexpectedly announced his candidacy for the 2024 presidential election at a small rally at Central Park in New York City.

Andrew Giuliani is the son of the now disgraced former mayor of New York City, as well as Donald Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani. Rudy's approval ratings have taken a major nosedive, comparably to that of former Vice President Dick Cheney. Rudy went from being universally loved, with a 79% approval rating among NYC voters, being called "America's mayor" by Oprah Winfrey, and being named TIME Magazine's Person of the Year in 2001, to practically humiliating himself on live television in the aftermath of Trump's loss in 2020, having his law practicing licenses overturned in New York and DC, and now having an approval rating of just under 25% according to a recent poll (and even 15% in another poll). This may be a big concern for Andrew, as his last name could be "cursed" when it comes to his political future, like a Bush or a Trump. It should also be noted that Rudy ran for president in 2008, but failed to get the nomination.

As for Andrew, he was also the special assistant to President Trump from 2019-2021, the Associate Director of the Office of Public Liaison from 2017-2019, a candidate for Governor of New York in 2022 (of which he lost the primary for), and a Newsmax contributor.

Andrew Giuliani is by far the youngest candidate in the race, at only 37 years old.



Current Major Candidates

Republicans:

Former Governor Larry Hogan of Maryland
Former UN Ambassador and former Governor Nikki Haley of South Carolina
Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida
Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas
Businessman Mike Lindell of Minnesota
Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida
Former Congressman Will Hurd of Texas
Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska
Former Governor Chris Christie of New Jersey
Former Political Advisor Andrew Giuliani of New York

Democrats:

Vice President Kamala Harris of California
Activist Nina Turner of Ohio
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« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2021, 02:28:45 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2021, 12:40:28 PM by Lone Star Politics »

Slow news cycle it seems, so let's take a look at endorsements so far!

Disclaimer: All endorsements will be from the candidates' party unless otherwise stated

Republicans:

Larry Hogan:
  • Phil Scott, governor of Vermont
  • Charlie Baker, governor of Massachusetts
  • Boyd Rutherford, former lieutenant governor of Maryland (2015-2023)
  • Susan Collins, US senator from Maine
  • Lisa Murkowski, former US senator from Alaska (2002-2023)
  • Bob Ehrlich, former governor of Maryland (2003-2007)
  • Hunter Avallone, political commentator (Independent)
  • Let's Talk Elections, political commentator (Democrat)

Nikki Haley:
  • Ivanka Trump, daughter of former president Donald Trump
  • Ben Shapiro, conservative political commentator
  • Dan Crenshaw, US representative from Texas
  • Condoleezza Rice, former US Secretary of State (2005-2009)
  • Lindsey Graham, US senator from South Carolina
  • Marco Rubio, US senator from Florida
  • Liz Cheney, daughter of former vice president Dick Cheney, former US representative from Wyoming (2017-2023) (Independent)
  • Dennis Prager, conservative radio host, founder of PragerU
  • Mitt Romney, US senator from Utah, 2012 republican nominee for president, former governor of Massachusetts (2003-2007)
  • Tim Scott, US senator from South Carolina
  • Meghan McCain, former co-host of The View, daughter of John McCain

Ron DeSantis:
  • Lenny Curry, former mayor of Jacksonville, Florida (2015-2023)
  • Donald Trump Jr., son of former president Donald Trump
  • Eric Trump, son of former president Donald Trump
  • Rick Scott, US senator from Florida, former governor of Florida (2011-2019)
  • Tucker Carlson, Fox News host
  • Greg Abbott, governor of Texas
  • Michael Knowles, conservative commentator
  • Matt Walsh, conservative commentator
  • Jeanette Nunez, lieutenant governor of Florida
  • Josh Hawley, US senator from Missouri
  • Sean Hannity, conservative commentator, Fox News host
  • Saagar Enjeti, conservative commentator
  • Rand Paul, US senator from Kentucky

Tom Cotton:
  • Mike Huckabee, host of TV talk show Huckabee, former governor of Arkansas (1996-2007)
  • Sarah Huckabee Sanders, governor of Arkansas, former White House press secretary (2017-2019), daughter of Mike Huckabee
  • John Boozman, US senator from Arkansas

Mike Lindell:
  • Lin Wood, attorney
  • Jack Posobiec, conservative commentator, conspiracy theorist

Matt Gaetz:
  • Marjorie Taylor Greene, US representative from Georgia

Andrew Giuliani:
  • Rudy Giuliani, former attorney, former mayor of New York City, father of Andrew Giuliani


Democrats:

Kamala Harris:
  • Joe Biden, president of the United States
  • Jill Biden, first lady of the United States
  • Hillary Clinton, 2016 democratic nominee for president, former US Secretary of State (2009-2013), former US senator from New York (2001-2009), former first lady of the United States (1993-2001)
  • Michelle Obama, former first lady of the United States (2009-2017)
  • Stacey Abrams, governor of Georgia, activist
  • Pete Buttigieg, US Secretary of Transportation
  • Gavin Newsom, governor of California
  • Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan
  • Nancy Pelosi, former speaker of the house (2007-2011, 2019-2023)
  • Chuck Schumer, senate minority leader
  • Tammy Duckworth, US senator from Illinois
  • Cory Booker, US senator from New Jersey
  • Roy Cooper, governor of North Carolina
  • Beto O'Rourke, activist, former US representative from Texas
  • Sherrod Brown, US senator from Ohio
  • Kirsten Gillibrand, US senator from New York
  • Mary L. Trump, author, niece of Donald Trump

(Kamala has more endorsements, but too many to list)

Nina Turner:
  • Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, activist, US representative from New York
  • Ilhan Omar, activist, US representative from Minnesota
  • Rashida Tlaib, US representative from Michigan
  • Cori Bush, activist, US representative from Missouri
  • Ayanna Pressley, US representative from Massachusetts
  • Pramila Jayapal, US representative from Washington
  • Jamaal Bowman, US representative from New York
  • Shaun King, activist
  • Cenk Uygur, activist, progressive commentator
  • Ana Kasparian, activist, progressive commentator
  • Andrew Yang, activist, perennial candidate
  • Robert Reich, activist, former US Secretary of Labor (1993-1997)
  • Marianne Williamson, author, activist, spiritual leader
  • Vaush, progressive commentator
  • Krystal Ball, progressive commentator
  • Cornel West, activist, philosopher
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« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2021, 04:43:20 PM »


August 16, 2023: Despite Low Polling, Matt Gaetz Has Announced His Running Mate Early

 

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Despite consistently polling at either 1 or 2%, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) has announced his running mate for the 2024 presidential election, controversial colleague Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA).

Gaetz and Greene, while both highly controversial representatives, with the latter being the first member of congress to be permanently banned from Twitter while in office, are both close friends of each other. Both were practically magnets when it came to negative media attention, and also headlined an "America First" revival tour in 2021, in which several venues wouldn't allow their event to be held. Both are also staunch supporters of Donald Trump, and have both falsely claimed that Trump won the 2020 election. Both also came under controversy in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic for their anti-vax and anti-mask statements.

While Gaetz may be proud of his running mate pick, choosing the least popular republican representative in the country may end up backfiring badly on Gaetz, causing him to lose a lot of moderate support. And that's not to mention Gaetz's previous scandals.
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« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2021, 07:15:01 PM »
« Edited: August 24, 2021, 08:36:26 PM by Lone Star Politics »


September 12, 2023: Second Republican Primary Debates


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Location: James L. Knight Center in Miami, Florida
Winner(s): DeSantis
Loser(s): Hogan, Christie, Gaetz
Biggest Fight(s) of the Night: DeSantis vs Hogan/Christie

The second republican primary debate was held on September 12, 2023 at the James L. Knight Center in Miami, Florida. All candidates in the race, except for Andrew Giuliani (announced candidacy too late) were invited and participated in the debate. This is the last debate held where polling isn't a qualifying factor, meaning candidates such as Sasse, Hurd, Lindell, and Gaetz may see their campaigns doomed.

Highlights:

  • Due to the debate being held in Miami, which has one of the largest Cuban communities in the United States, the main theme of the debate was on economics, and especially socialism.
  • A major focus on the debate was Ron DeSantis' leadership as governor of Florida. Many of the moderators' questions were geared towards him, as well as many of the attacks by DeSantis' primary opponents, such as Larry Hogan and Chris Christie. DeSantis hit them back, attacking parts of their leadership, both during the covid pandemic and before.
  • DeSantis was also asked about how Jeanette Nunez, the current Lieutenant Governor of Florida, would lead the state if/when DeSantis becomes president. DeSantis responded saying that she would be a great and effective leader, and it would feel like "nothing has changed" between DeSantis and Nunez's leadership.
  • Matt Gaetz, another candidate from Florida, was asked about his very early pick of Marjorie Taylor Greene as his running mate, despite Gaetz's low polling numbers, and the extreme unpopularity of both Gaetz and Greene. Gaetz defended his pick, saying "we're in it to win it", and discussed his close friendship with Greene, and how they share many of the same views, as well as saying that Greene would be "the best VP America has ever seen."
  • Another discussion was about climate change, and specifically Florida's vulnerability to climate change. Larry Hogan gave an answer that many people saw as an average "democrat response" to climate change, including a nationwide ban on fracking, support for the Paris Agreement, and a carbon tax. DeSantis, oddly enough, had a more moderate view and response to climate change. DeSantis said that he would ban fracking in wildlife sanctuaries (but would oppose an overall nationwide ban on fracking), supports protecting oceans (as well as ocean cleaning), and conserving America's natural beauty. DeSantis also contrasted his environment views with those of young climate activist Greta Thunberg, saying "taking extreme measures like what Greta Thunberg is proposing would lead to the end of civilization as we know it." He ended his answer by saying this: "America is the greatest country in the world, but we must also strive to be the most beautiful country in the world." DeSantis' answer seemed to be the most unique position on climate change from a republican, though definitely sparked a lot of buzz.
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« Reply #45 on: August 28, 2021, 03:45:59 PM »
« Edited: August 29, 2021, 02:03:51 AM by Lone Star Politics »


September 20, 2023: Third Republican Primary Debates to be Split into Two

The RNC has announced that the third republican primary debates, to be held at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, will be split into two debates with 5 candidates each. The first debate will be for higher-polling candidates, and the second debate for lower-polling candidates. These debates will be held on October 12-13, 2023.

Participants for first debate: Larry Hogan, Nikki Haley, Ron DeSantis, Tom Cotton, Mike Lindell

Participants for second debate: Matt Gaetz, Will Hurd, Ben Sasse, Chris Christie, Andrew Giuliani (his first debate performance)

It is likely that the fourth debates, to be held on November 11, 2023 in Green Bay, Wisconsin, will also be split into two. The RNC will announce their decision by the end of October.



September 22, 2023: Bill Kristol Endorses Nikki Haley, Calls Her "The Last Chance for the Republican Party"


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Bill Kristol, a neoconservative writer, former chief of staff to former vice president Dan Quayle from 1989-1993, and a currently registered democrat due to opposition to the current state of the GOP, has endorsed Nikki Haley for president, calling her "the last chance for the republican party."

Both Kristol and Haley express neoconservative views on foreign policy, and both have expressed dismay for Donald Trump and Trumpism (although Kristol is much more against him overall than Haley). Kristol even endorsed many democrats in statewide races in 2021 and 2022 as a protest against the current republican party.

Kristol also stated that his backup republican candidate choices are Larry Hogan, Ben Sasse, and Will Hurd, and also stated that if neither of them get the republican nomination, he will support Kamala Harris for president instead.
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« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2021, 01:18:14 PM »


October 12-13, 2023: Third Republican Primary Debates


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Location: Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California
Winner(s): DeSantis (1st), N/A for 2nd
Loser(s): Haley (1st), Hurd (2nd), Sasse (2nd), Hogan (1st)
Biggest Fight(s) of the Night: DeSantis vs Haley (1st), Hogan vs the rest (1st), Hurd/Sasse vs Gaetz (2nd)

The third republican primary debates were held at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, about 40 miles northwest of Los Angeles. Instead of one debate like the previous two, this one was split into two debates with 5 candidates each; the higher polling candidates (Hogan, Haley, DeSantis, Cotton, Lindell) for the 1st, and the lower polling candidates (Gaetz, Hurd, Sasse, Christie, Giuliani) for the 2nd.

A big focus for the debates was the direction of the republican party; whether to go back to the establishment Reagan/Bush era, or to continue the trend of America First Trumpism/populism. Naturally, this is where things got heated.

Highlights:

  • DeSantis, the current frontrunner in the primary, vowed to continue the trend of Trumpism in the republican party. DeSantis is close friends with former president Trump, and has also received the endorsements of two of Trump's children so far, Donald Jr. and Eric. He also expressed the need to focus more on middle America, and not the rich "country club" elite like George W. Bush and Mitt Romney did prior.
  • Nikki Haley, who currently sits at second place in most polls, expressed the need to abandon Trumpism, and revert back to the days of "compassionate conservatism." DeSantis and Haley sparred over this, where DeSantis stated that the days of George W. Bush were what led to the current mess today, especially overseas.
  • Larry Hogan expressed the need for a more "tolerant" republican party, similarly to the conservative parties of both Canada and the United Kingdom. This included tackling climate change, extremism on both sides of the aisle, striving for racial equality, and supporting LGBTQ rights. This didn't sit well with the other candidates, and DeSantis sparred with him, saying "we already have the democratic party, we don't need two of the same." Ironically enough, Hogan became the most googled candidate following the debates, and even got more donation money from democrats.
  • Like Hogan in the first debate, Will Hurd expressed much of the same needs in the second debate. His other anti-Trump counterpart, Ben Sasse, expressed a lot of the same stuff that Nikki Haley had stated. Both were attacked by Matt Gaetz and Andrew Giuliani (the latter of which made his first debate performance), both of whom expressed the need to continue the Trumpist agenda. In return, Gaetz was attacked for his previous scandals, and his pick of Marjorie Taylor Greene, widely regarded as one of the most extreme right representatives in congress, as his running mate.
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« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2021, 07:37:12 PM »

I’m intrigued. Please continue!!
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« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2021, 09:07:22 PM »
« Edited: September 17, 2021, 02:12:28 PM by Lone Star Politics »


October 21, 2023: Ben Sasse Suspends Campaign, Endorses Nikki Haley


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Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE) has announced that he has dropped out of the 2024 presidential race, and endorsed Nikki Haley for president.

Sasse had consistently polled at or around 1%, likely due to his lower name recognition as well as his disdain for Donald Trump. Sasse had hoped that his debate performances would get him more traction, but they never helped.



Current Major Candidates

Republicans:

Former Governor Larry Hogan of Maryland
Former UN Ambassador and former Governor Nikki Haley of South Carolina
Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida
Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas
Businessman Mike Lindell of Minnesota
Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida
Former Congressman Will Hurd of Texas
Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska
Former Governor Chris Christie of New Jersey
Former Political Advisor Andrew Giuliani of New York

Democrats:

Vice President Kamala Harris of California
Activist Nina Turner of Ohio
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« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2021, 05:08:28 PM »

Side-note: The events of this thread are very likely not occurring in real life. I just read from a Politico article where DeSantis called any 2024 presidential bid rumors of him "nonsense", plus it's starting to look increasingly more likely that Donald Trump will be running again, capitalizing on the failures of the Biden administration (and Afghanistan may have been the breaking point).

Despite those, however, I do plan on keeping this TL going, but this would be more of an alternate future rather than a prediction.

Link to Politico article: https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/09/07/desantis-calls-talk-of-a-2024-presidential-bid-nonsense-1390768
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