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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2004, 10:04:10 AM »


That's a good one!
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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2004, 10:04:50 AM »

I'm glad to see that the Democrats are making progress in their move to the left. I hope to one day rejoin my spiritual party, and it looks like that day might come.

I intend to keep this party in the moderate-to-liberal position it is in today.
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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2004, 10:18:07 AM »

Oh dear. . .. why Ben???

I would be interestd in the chairmanship if yall want me . . .
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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2004, 10:21:33 AM »

Thanks for expressing your interest, Harry.

I will announce my choice for chairman soon. Hopefully the party will concur with my selection.
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« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2004, 10:27:09 AM »

Oh dear. . .. why Ben???

I would be interestd in the chairmanship if yall want me . . .

But you are PPT of the Senate, don't you think maybe you should put a lot more effort into that than trying to become the Party Chairman of the Democrats.
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« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2004, 10:37:22 AM »

While I've no problem with Ben joining the UAC (unlike most of them he *is* actually a centrist and I hope he steers it in that direction and away from the naked power grab demonstrated by many of it's members), however I feel it would have been more appropriate if he had resigned his post as AFDNC chair *before* he joined the UAC.

He did, he handed his resignation officially to the President last night and only announced it here afterwards.

Most of us are centrists actually, you will find very few who aren't, I suppose ILikeVerin isn't one, nor is Brambila but they are in the minority.

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2) I'd say the majority of you are... but certain people are not
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« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2004, 11:39:22 AM »

While I've no problem with Ben joining the UAC (unlike most of them he *is* actually a centrist and I hope he steers it in that direction and away from the naked power grab demonstrated by many of it's members), however I feel it would have been more appropriate if he had resigned his post as AFDNC chair *before* he joined the UAC.

He did, he handed his resignation officially to the President last night and only announced it here afterwards.

Most of us are centrists actually, you will find very few who aren't, I suppose ILikeVerin isn't one, nor is Brambila but they are in the minority.

1) Good
2) I'd say the majority of you are... but certain people are not

Would it be possible to name a few names?

I can think of two former members who weren't, josh and assad but they left.
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« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2004, 11:40:20 AM »

Brambila
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« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2004, 11:44:17 AM »


I already named him myself a minute ago.
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« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2004, 11:48:11 AM »


OK

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« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2004, 11:49:57 AM »


You mean ILikeVerin? Wink Peter Bell joined your party, besides, he isn't so liberal, I believe he is a self-professed "Wet-Tory".
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« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2004, 12:21:23 PM »

But to go from calling yourself a "social Democrat" to calling yourself a "centrist" is absurd.
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« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2004, 01:18:04 PM »

While I've no problem with Ben joining the UAC (unlike most of them he *is* actually a centrist and I hope he steers it in that direction and away from the naked power grab demonstrated by many of it's members), however I feel it would have been more appropriate if he had resigned his post as AFDNC chair *before* he joined the UAC.

He did, he handed his resignation officially to the President last night and only announced it here afterwards.

Most of us are centrists actually, you will find very few who aren't, I suppose ILikeVerin isn't one, nor is Brambila but they are in the minority.

1) Good
2) I'd say the majority of you are... but certain people are not

Would it be possible to name a few names?

I can think of two former members who weren't, josh and assad but they left.

KEmperor isn't... unless the word "centrist" has been inverted in some way...
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« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2004, 01:19:56 PM »

While I've no problem with Ben joining the UAC (unlike most of them he *is* actually a centrist and I hope he steers it in that direction and away from the naked power grab demonstrated by many of it's members), however I feel it would have been more appropriate if he had resigned his post as AFDNC chair *before* he joined the UAC.

He did, he handed his resignation officially to the President last night and only announced it here afterwards.

Most of us are centrists actually, you will find very few who aren't, I suppose ILikeVerin isn't one, nor is Brambila but they are in the minority.

1) Good
2) I'd say the majority of you are... but certain people are not

Would it be possible to name a few names?

I can think of two former members who weren't, josh and assad but they left.

KEmperor isn't... unless the word "centrist" has been inverted in some way...

Not Economically, he is socially moderate though, i think around a  -0.9 or something on political compass however he is rather economically right minded, I think around a 6ish on politcal compass.

However, this has always been the way of the United Atlas Centrists, socially liberal and economically conservative.
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« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2004, 01:24:19 PM »

While I've no problem with Ben joining the UAC (unlike most of them he *is* actually a centrist and I hope he steers it in that direction and away from the naked power grab demonstrated by many of it's members), however I feel it would have been more appropriate if he had resigned his post as AFDNC chair *before* he joined the UAC.

He did, he handed his resignation officially to the President last night and only announced it here afterwards.

Most of us are centrists actually, you will find very few who aren't, I suppose ILikeVerin isn't one, nor is Brambila but they are in the minority.

1) Good
2) I'd say the majority of you are... but certain people are not

Would it be possible to name a few names?

I can think of two former members who weren't, josh and assad but they left.

KEmperor isn't... unless the word "centrist" has been inverted in some way...

Not Economically, he is socially moderate though, i think around a  -0.9 or something on political compass however he is rather economically right minded, I think around a 6ish on politcal compass.

However, this has always been the way of the United Atlas Centrists, socially liberal and economically conservative.

His views on healthcare etc are actually extremist.
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« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2004, 01:25:42 PM »

While I've no problem with Ben joining the UAC (unlike most of them he *is* actually a centrist and I hope he steers it in that direction and away from the naked power grab demonstrated by many of it's members), however I feel it would have been more appropriate if he had resigned his post as AFDNC chair *before* he joined the UAC.

He did, he handed his resignation officially to the President last night and only announced it here afterwards.

Most of us are centrists actually, you will find very few who aren't, I suppose ILikeVerin isn't one, nor is Brambila but they are in the minority.

1) Good
2) I'd say the majority of you are... but certain people are not

Would it be possible to name a few names?

I can think of two former members who weren't, josh and assad but they left.

KEmperor isn't... unless the word "centrist" has been inverted in some way...

Not Economically, he is socially moderate though, i think around a  -0.9 or something on political compass however he is rather economically right minded, I think around a 6ish on politcal compass.

However, this has always been the way of the United Atlas Centrists, socially liberal and economically conservative.

His views on healthcare etc are actually extremist.

Hmmm, well, I have never seen his views on healthcare so I cannot really speak here, but anyway, I suppose some UAC'ers could be deemed as not quite centrists but most are reasonably close or fall into the right quadrant for us with a few exceptions. Lets get off this topic anyway Smiley.
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« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2004, 02:10:44 PM »

While I've no problem with Ben joining the UAC (unlike most of them he *is* actually a centrist and I hope he steers it in that direction and away from the naked power grab demonstrated by many of it's members), however I feel it would have been more appropriate if he had resigned his post as AFDNC chair *before* he joined the UAC.

He did, he handed his resignation officially to the President last night and only announced it here afterwards.

Most of us are centrists actually, you will find very few who aren't, I suppose ILikeVerin isn't one, nor is Brambila but they are in the minority.

1) Good
2) I'd say the majority of you are... but certain people are not

Would it be possible to name a few names?

I can think of two former members who weren't, josh and assad but they left.

KEmperor isn't... unless the word "centrist" has been inverted in some way...

Not Economically, he is socially moderate though, i think around a  -0.9 or something on political compass however he is rather economically right minded, I think around a 6ish on politcal compass.

However, this has always been the way of the United Atlas Centrists, socially liberal and economically conservative.

His views on healthcare etc are actually extremist.

Perhaps by socialist European standards, but in America opposition to a government run universal health care system is pretty mainstream.
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« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2004, 02:13:45 PM »

I thought that you said that you opposed any government involvement in health care, however, which would imply that you opposed Medicare and Medicaid, for example.
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