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« on: June 28, 2021, 10:21:32 AM »

Alito and Thomas dissenting from denial of certiorari, of course. This was the case involving Gavin Grimm, for the record.
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2021, 11:03:19 AM »

Honestly, the Court probably *should've* taken it up in light of Bostock just so they could get answering the question of whether or not Bostock applies to Title IX over with, given the back-&-forth on agency interpretation, but maybe they'd just rather wait for an actual circuit split (or for an athletic case rather than a case centered around bathrooms) instead.
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2021, 01:24:04 PM »

Honestly, the Court probably *should've* taken it up in light of Bostock just so they could get answering the question of whether or not Bostock applies to Title IX over with, given the back-&-forth on agency interpretation, but maybe they'd just rather wait for an actual circuit split (or for an athletic case rather than a case centered around bathrooms) instead.
Maybe, but you know why Thomas and Alito wanted to hear it (to rule against Gavin Grimm).
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2021, 03:53:41 PM »

I'm surprised none of the Coney Barrett/Gorsuch/Kavanaugh trio were interested in hearing this.
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2021, 04:08:56 PM »

Maybe, but you know why Thomas and Alito wanted to hear it (to rule against Gavin Grimm).

I'm surprised none of the Coney Barrett/Gorsuch/Kavanaugh trio were interested in hearing this.

Yeah, the 3 OMFG WE'RE DOOMED justices Trump appointed apparently weren't interested in ruling against Grimm.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2021, 06:13:59 PM »

Maybe, but you know why Thomas and Alito wanted to hear it (to rule against Gavin Grimm).

I'm surprised none of the Coney Barrett/Gorsuch/Kavanaugh trio were interested in hearing this.

Yeah, the 3 OMFG WE'RE DOOMED justices Trump appointed apparently weren't interested in ruling against Grimm.

Not necessarily. All we know is that there were less than four Justices willing to take this case. It's possible there could have been a third Justice that was unwilling to go on record. We already know Kavanaugh was in dissent in Bostock.

As already mentioned above, I think the fact that there's no circuit split is the reason for denial. This case is very close to Bostock. This likely isn't the last attempt for this though. If you recall when the marriage equality cases were making their ways through the district and circuit courts, the Supreme Court was constantly denying review until the Sixth Circuit ruled the other way and the issue was forced. This isn't quite the same thing, but my point stands. I'd be stunned if Gorsuch didn't follow his own logic from Title VII to Title IX. I would, however, be quite nervous about raising Equal Protection Clause arguments to this Court. That worked when it was four liberals and Justice Kennedy (and also Justice O'Connor when she on the Court), but I strongly doubt it would now.
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2021, 02:55:40 AM »

I'm surprised none of the Coney Barrett/Gorsuch/Kavanaugh trio were interested in hearing this.

They are trying to pretend to be normal people for a while so people forget that the GOP stole a SCOTUS seat.
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2021, 03:42:48 PM »

I'm surprised none of the Coney Barrett/Gorsuch/Kavanaugh trio were interested in hearing this.

They are trying to pretend to be normal people for a while so people forget that the GOP stole a SCOTUS seat.
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2021, 03:45:09 PM »

I'm surprised none of the Coney Barrett/Gorsuch/Kavanaugh trio were interested in hearing this.

They are trying to pretend to be normal people for a while so people forget that the GOP stole a SCOTUS seat.
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I view it as one because if they allowed the replacement for Scalia in the last year then it would only be right to allow the replacement for RBG in the last year.  The problem was the GOP allowed one but not the other.
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2021, 03:08:34 PM »

I'm surprised none of the Coney Barrett/Gorsuch/Kavanaugh trio were interested in hearing this.

They are trying to pretend to be normal people for a while so people forget that the GOP stole a SCOTUS seat.

I don't think anybody who's liable to forget this cares, and I don't think anybody who cares is liable to forget it.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2021, 02:12:53 PM »

I'm surprised none of the Coney Barrett/Gorsuch/Kavanaugh trio were interested in hearing this.

They are trying to pretend to be normal people for a while so people forget that the GOP stole a SCOTUS seat.
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I view it as one because if they allowed the replacement for Scalia in the last year then it would only be right to allow the replacement for RBG in the last year.  The problem was the GOP allowed one but not the other.

Depends on how much one weighs "my most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new President is installed."
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2021, 06:20:16 AM »

I'm surprised none of the Coney Barrett/Gorsuch/Kavanaugh trio were interested in hearing this.

They are trying to pretend to be normal people for a while so people forget that the GOP stole a SCOTUS seat.

I don't think anybody who's liable to forget this cares, and I don't think anybody who cares is liable to forget it.

At the time, I thought it terrible that Merrick Garland was denied a up or down vote.  After seeing his performance as Attorney General and seeking to criminalize political dissent of parents at school board meetings using the most obscene hyperbole I thank God every day that he is not on the Supreme Court.
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2021, 11:58:48 AM »

The behavior of the Bush (1 & 2) judges, save Roberts, compared to the Trump ones is fascinating to me. It's not an excuse for modern-day conservatives by any means, but it goes to show just how extreme the Reagan lineage was.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2021, 03:44:08 PM »

The behavior of the Bush (1 & 2) judges, save Roberts, compared to the Trump ones is fascinating to me. It's not an excuse for modern-day conservatives by any means, but it goes to show just how extreme the Reagan lineage was.

Well keep in mind Trump's justices were more or less like Scalia who was a Reagan appointment. I think Scalia even commented once the main difference between him and Thomas is that Thomas doesn't believe in the idea of stare decisis.

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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2021, 03:56:48 PM »

This might seem like good news, but I think it's a sign that the Trump justices are trying to wait until we're not paying attention to the Supreme Court in order to go full right-wing on us.
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2021, 04:29:29 PM »

This might seem like good news, but I think it's a sign that the Trump justices are trying to wait until we're not paying attention to the Supreme Court in order to go full right-wing on us.

Why would they bother with this? They've already got their undemocratic lifetime appointments.
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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2021, 11:33:20 PM »

I'm surprised none of the Coney Barrett/Gorsuch/Kavanaugh trio were interested in hearing this.

They are trying to pretend to be normal people for a while so people forget that the GOP stole a SCOTUS seat.

I don't think anybody who's liable to forget this cares, and I don't think anybody who cares is liable to forget it.

At the time, I thought it terrible that Merrick Garland was denied a up or down vote.  After seeing his performance as Attorney General and seeking to criminalize political dissent of parents at school board meetings using the most obscene hyperbole I thank God every day that he is not on the Supreme Court.

Garland has been a pretty bad AG from both progressive and conservative perspectives, hasn't he? He grandstands on stuff like this and yet on heavy-duty quality-of-democracy issues his DOJ is nowhere to be seen.
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