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« on: June 23, 2021, 12:00:09 PM »



NUT and Mega Based if True
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2021, 12:01:42 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2021, 12:05:50 PM by MR. KAYNE WEST »

It's over, lol this is FL not the National poll, DeSantis is still the underdog if he challenges Biden
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2021, 12:18:05 PM »

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The persons sampled were Florida likely voters with a voting score of 100% for the primary and general election cycles. The voters called were those only with landlines and were called using an Interactive Voice Response (IVR) system and were called during the hours of 4PM to 8PM on June 21, 2021.

This seems like dogshit? IVR calls, only to landlines, between 4pm and 8pm on just one day, with no option for undecideds. Sample is 330 Rs, 300 Ds and 86(!) NPAs, which, charitably, is not exactly reflective of the state. Crosstabs are also very bad — I do not believe that 18% of Dems are voting for DeSantis! Worst poll I've seen in a long time.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2021, 12:34:55 PM »

This pollster had Trump up *11 points* on Biden in mid-August last year.
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2021, 12:39:24 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2021, 01:15:46 PM by UNBEATABLE TITAN WAYNE MESSAM »

INB4 the "Florida is a solid red state" squad starts saying that DeSantis will win by a margin of 30% because "Florida polls always underestimate Republican strength" and "Cubans are being undersampled".
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2021, 12:49:43 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2021, 01:52:10 PM by TodayJunior »

Thanks for the good laugh. Man, I needed it badly. Looks like they only polled people coming out of Cracker Barrel…in the panhandle. 🤣🤣🤣

For real though, we’re not Alabama.
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2021, 01:04:08 PM »

It's never a good thing when a poll doesn't include undecideds.
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2021, 01:22:28 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2021, 01:29:07 PM »

I think DeSantis may actually win by double digits over Fried, but not by 22.

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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2021, 01:30:19 PM »

22 is a bit much. Then again, don't try and unskew polls, it never ends well.
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2021, 01:31:06 PM »

The same poll has him beating Crist 55-45.
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2021, 01:33:34 PM »

22 points... come on, man! Fraudulent pollster? I could see him winning by half the margin in a perfect storm. Otherwise, this will be 4-7 point race.
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2021, 01:59:07 PM »

I think DeSantis may actually win by double digits over Fried, but not by 22.


If he gets too far ahead of his skis (I.e. a Freudian slip pertaining to a national race), then that ad will play over and over again and he might end up losing. Call it the inevitable Hillary Clinton syndrome.
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2021, 02:01:11 PM »

I think DeSantis may actually win by double digits over Fried, but not by 22.


If he gets too far ahead of his skis (I.e. a Freudian slip pertaining to a national race), then that ad will play over and over again and he might end up losing. Call it the inevitable Hillary Clinton syndrome.

DeSantis already had a certain Freudian slip in 2018 (which was taken out of context by the media, of course). Look it up.

That was a D+9 year, and he was an unknown. He still won.
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2021, 02:04:01 PM »

22 is a bit much. Then again, don't try and unskew polls, it never ends well.

I don't think you know what "unskew polls" means. The methodology of this poll is fundamentally unsound. It deserves to be junked entirely.
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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2021, 03:13:05 PM »

The D's need to abandon FL, it's not happening without HR 1,  Plouffe said go after NC or OH
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2021, 04:28:33 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2021, 04:33:45 PM by TodayJunior »

I think DeSantis may actually win by double digits over Fried, but not by 22.


If he gets too far ahead of his skis (I.e. a Freudian slip pertaining to a national race), then that ad will play over and over again and he might end up losing. Call it the inevitable Hillary Clinton syndrome.

DeSantis already had a certain Freudian slip in 2018 (which was taken out of context by the media, of course). Look it up.

That was a D+9 year, and he was an unknown. He still won.

Oh I’m well aware of that. To his credit, he’s gotten more disciplined on these kinds of things, likely due to some coaching from his wife Casey who has a media/advertising background. She is definitely an asset for him. Guess you can teach an old dog new tricks.
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2021, 04:52:26 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2021, 04:56:52 PM by MR. KAYNE WEST »

DeSantis is Ralph Reed of Conservative Movement whom was also in FL, DeSantis isn't losing this wave insurance seat unless a scandal came out

This isn't OH where Mandel and Renacci already lost to Brown, IA, where we have a prominent Afro American and 4 cruicial Congressional districts to offset TX and FL or NC where Ds only lost by 1.5, Rubio can lose, but DeSantis will win

I don't care if Biden is at 40 percent in IA, I like Ras Smith and will donate to him for an Election in 500 days
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2021, 04:55:15 PM »

I think DeSantis may actually win by double digits over Fried, but not by 22.


If he gets too far ahead of his skis (I.e. a Freudian slip pertaining to a national race), then that ad will play over and over again and he might end up losing. Call it the inevitable Hillary Clinton syndrome.

DeSantis already had a certain Freudian slip in 2018 (which was taken out of context by the media, of course). Look it up.

That was a D+9 year, and he was an unknown. He still won.

Oh I’m well aware of that. To his credit, he’s gotten more disciplined on these kinds of things, likely due to some coaching from his wife Casey who has a media/advertising background. She is definitely an asset for him. Guess you can teach an old dog new tricks.


DeSantis (from what I saw of him) used to have the charisma of a dry wool blanket until literally this very year.

He has definitely changed for the better, if he wants to run for president- and certainly for his re-election campaign.
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2021, 09:05:21 PM »

The D's need to abandon FL, it's not happening without HR 1,  Plouffe said go after NC or OH
Where did plouffe say?
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2021, 10:22:06 AM »

It'll be half that margin at most for DeSantis but this poll basically adds nothing new. Just confirms that DeSantis is heavily favored to win against his opponents.
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2021, 06:25:21 PM »

Charlie Crist did beat Rod Smith in 2006 55-45 despite Democrats winning the Senate & House.

2018 they had an even bigger wave year and couldn't win either FL-GOV or FL-SEN.

I can easily see DeSantis winning by double digits. Fried has no record to run on except being "Anti-DeSantis" and Crist now has a Record of an rubber stamp for the Pelosi/Schumer (2016-2020) and Pelosi/Schumer/Biden/Harris Agenda in 2021. Good Luck with that in Florida! Crist lost all credibility!
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2021, 01:36:06 PM »

Charlie Crist did beat Rod Smith in 2006 55-45 despite Democrats winning the Senate & House.

2018 they had an even bigger wave year and couldn't win either FL-GOV or FL-SEN.
And the inverse is true — Rick Scott could only beat Crist by a point, 48-47, in 2014, despite Republicans gaining the Senate and holding the House. In 2010, despite an even bigger Republican wave, Scott only won by a point and Rubio was unable to get over 50% despite split opposition.
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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2021, 01:55:46 PM »

Rally around the flag in the FL Apartment collapse is gonna push DeSantis towards reelection

As he has become nonpartisan, now, Crist and Fried are DONE
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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2021, 02:11:13 PM »

Rally around the flag in the FL Apartment collapse is gonna push DeSantis towards reelection

As he has become nonpartisan, now, Crist and Fried are DONE
I don’t see how this affects the race at all. But I’m curious why you think so.
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