Buffalo, NY - The Comeback Kid

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

Obvious "it's Emerson" disclaimer, but interesting, given that other indicators suggest Brown might really be competitive in this race.
https://twitter.com/EmersonPolling/status/1425906180933648384

I think that the possibility of Brown leading in polls and losing in the end is decent. I see a number of people possibly not seeing his name on the ballot and assuming he dropped out or something, not realizing his campaign is a write in.

That said he is probably the narrow favorite now.

Agreed. Name recognition will probably secure him a decent portion of the vote, but whether it'll be enough is wholly unclear.

Apparently they had 2 different methodologies for 2 different contact methods looking at the poll. Brown got 64% in the one where he was explicitly listed. He got 40% in the one where he was not.

[GeneralMacArthur]

If Brown ends up defeating Walton with a write-in campaign -- and not just defeating her, but winning in a double-digit landslide -- will all those hack journalists who wrote glowing articles about the "socialist uprising in America's cities" issue apologies and retractions?

[Never Made it to Graceland]

If Brown ends up defeating Walton with a write-in campaign -- and not just defeating her, but winning in a double-digit landslide -- will all those hack journalists who wrote glowing articles about the "socialist uprising in America's cities" issue apologies and retractions?

https://www.zillow.com/cedar-rapids-ia/

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

Oh, weird, are there two Democratic nominees?

[GALeftist]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

0% chance this would ever be said if a centrist successfully primaried AOC and she launched a write-in campaign or something like that

[GeneralMacArthur]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

0% chance this would ever be said if a centrist successfully primaried AOC and she launched a write-in campaign or something like that

There's a 0% chance that this race will go to a Republican due to split votes.  That is always the issue when a defeated primary opponent runs an independent general election campaign.  It's basically a do-over of the primary since they're effectively the only two candidates.

I'm sure you understand this and you're just pretending to be thick so you can try to dunk on me.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

0% chance this would ever be said if a centrist successfully primaried AOC and she launched a write-in campaign or something like that

There's a 0% chance that this race will go to a Republican due to split votes.  That is always the issue when a defeated primary opponent runs an independent general election campaign.  It's basically a do-over of the primary since they're effectively the only two candidates.

I'm sure you understand this and you're just pretending to be thick so you can try to dunk on me.

And why should this loser Brown get a do-over of the primary?

[Orwell]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

0% chance this would ever be said if a centrist successfully primaried AOC and she launched a write-in campaign or something like that

There's a 0% chance that this race will go to a Republican due to split votes.  That is always the issue when a defeated primary opponent runs an independent general election campaign.  It's basically a do-over of the primary since they're effectively the only two candidates.

I'm sure you understand this and you're just pretending to be thick so you can try to dunk on me.

And why should this loser Brown get a do-over of the primary?

Cause he can? Like if India is the better candidate she’ll win.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

0% chance this would ever be said if a centrist successfully primaried AOC and she launched a write-in campaign or something like that

There's a 0% chance that this race will go to a Republican due to split votes.  That is always the issue when a defeated primary opponent runs an independent general election campaign.  It's basically a do-over of the primary since they're effectively the only two candidates.

I'm sure you understand this and you're just pretending to be thick so you can try to dunk on me.

And why should this loser Brown get a do-over of the primary?

Cause he can? Like if India is the better candidate she’ll win.

Uh huh. I wish I was going through life with such a simplistic understanding of politics as you and General Macaroni. Things would be a lot less complicated.

[Orwell]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

0% chance this would ever be said if a centrist successfully primaried AOC and she launched a write-in campaign or something like that

There's a 0% chance that this race will go to a Republican due to split votes.  That is always the issue when a defeated primary opponent runs an independent general election campaign.  It's basically a do-over of the primary since they're effectively the only two candidates.

I'm sure you understand this and you're just pretending to be thick so you can try to dunk on me.

And why should this loser Brown get a do-over of the primary?

Cause he can? Like if India is the better candidate she’ll win.

Uh huh. I wish I was going through life with such a simplistic understanding of politics as you and General Macaroni. Things would be a lot less complicated.

When you can't make a coherent counterargument resort to attacking my intelligence, never change Crane. 

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

0% chance this would ever be said if a centrist successfully primaried AOC and she launched a write-in campaign or something like that

There's a 0% chance that this race will go to a Republican due to split votes.  That is always the issue when a defeated primary opponent runs an independent general election campaign.  It's basically a do-over of the primary since they're effectively the only two candidates.

I'm sure you understand this and you're just pretending to be thick so you can try to dunk on me.

How would you feel if the Democratic vote splits the same way it did in the primary and Brown wins due to Republicans voting for him? Would that be a good outcome for the people of Buffalo?

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

0% chance this would ever be said if a centrist successfully primaried AOC and she launched a write-in campaign or something like that

There's a 0% chance that this race will go to a Republican due to split votes.  That is always the issue when a defeated primary opponent runs an independent general election campaign.  It's basically a do-over of the primary since they're effectively the only two candidates.

I'm sure you understand this and you're just pretending to be thick so you can try to dunk on me.

How would you feel if the Democratic vote splits the same way it did in the primary and Brown wins due to Republicans voting for him? Would that be a good outcome for the people of Buffalo?

The candidate with the greater overall support from the people of Buffalo winning would seem to be a good outcome.

Elections being determined six months early by a party primary with ridiculously low turnout is rarely a good in general, but it's an unavoidable evil in what's essentially one-party areas. This time might not be so easy.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

0% chance this would ever be said if a centrist successfully primaried AOC and she launched a write-in campaign or something like that

There's a 0% chance that this race will go to a Republican due to split votes.  That is always the issue when a defeated primary opponent runs an independent general election campaign.  It's basically a do-over of the primary since they're effectively the only two candidates.

I'm sure you understand this and you're just pretending to be thick so you can try to dunk on me.

How would you feel if the Democratic vote splits the same way it did in the primary and Brown wins due to Republicans voting for him? Would that be a good outcome for the people of Buffalo?

The candidate with the greater overall support from the people of Buffalo winning would seem to be a good outcome.

Elections being determined six months early by a party primary with ridiculously low turnout is rarely a good in general, but it's an unavoidable evil in what's essentially one-party areas. This time might not be so easy.

Sure, but at that point is it really “vote blue no matter who” if one of the “blue” candidates is a sore loser propped up by Republicans?

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

0% chance this would ever be said if a centrist successfully primaried AOC and she launched a write-in campaign or something like that

There's a 0% chance that this race will go to a Republican due to split votes.  That is always the issue when a defeated primary opponent runs an independent general election campaign.  It's basically a do-over of the primary since they're effectively the only two candidates.

I'm sure you understand this and you're just pretending to be thick so you can try to dunk on me.

How would you feel if the Democratic vote splits the same way it did in the primary and Brown wins due to Republicans voting for him? Would that be a good outcome for the people of Buffalo?

The candidate with the greater overall support from the people of Buffalo winning would seem to be a good outcome.

Elections being determined six months early by a party primary with ridiculously low turnout is rarely a good in general, but it's an unavoidable evil in what's essentially one-party areas. This time might not be so easy.

Sure, but at that point is it really “vote blue no matter who” if one of the “blue” candidates is a sore loser propped up by Republicans?

I mean, one's propped up by Republicans and one's propped up by entryist third partiers, so...meh?

They both seem pretty awful, but it's not going against the Democrats to vote for the candidate who's been a Democrat for far longer.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

0% chance this would ever be said if a centrist successfully primaried AOC and she launched a write-in campaign or something like that

There's a 0% chance that this race will go to a Republican due to split votes.  That is always the issue when a defeated primary opponent runs an independent general election campaign.  It's basically a do-over of the primary since they're effectively the only two candidates.

I'm sure you understand this and you're just pretending to be thick so you can try to dunk on me.

How would you feel if the Democratic vote splits the same way it did in the primary and Brown wins due to Republicans voting for him? Would that be a good outcome for the people of Buffalo?

Yes, it is good when the person who gets the most votes wins an election.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

0% chance this would ever be said if a centrist successfully primaried AOC and she launched a write-in campaign or something like that

There's a 0% chance that this race will go to a Republican due to split votes.  That is always the issue when a defeated primary opponent runs an independent general election campaign.  It's basically a do-over of the primary since they're effectively the only two candidates.

I'm sure you understand this and you're just pretending to be thick so you can try to dunk on me.

How would you feel if the Democratic vote splits the same way it did in the primary and Brown wins due to Republicans voting for him? Would that be a good outcome for the people of Buffalo?

Yes, it is good when the person who gets the most votes wins an election.

Was Bush winning in 2004 good? Such mental gymnastics to defend something the red avatars would never support coming from the left.

[SWE]

Buffalo City Council considering shift to council-manager model of governance, eliminating the position of Mayor.

I was in South Buffalo the other day and was surprised by the number of "write in Byron Brown" signs I saw. Strange that he lost given I didn't see any signs for the other candidate. I haven't seen a centrist case of "yard signs aren't votes" before.

South Buffalo is the only part of the city the Republicans are ever competitive, shouldn't be surprising that the Republican candidate who's more moderate and has a higher stature than the average sacrificial lamb they pick would win there

[coloradocowboi]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

Wow you just have no principles huh? I won't even bother arguing, bc it seems like your entire cosmological vision of reality is one where the wealthy's handpicked governing elite are always benevolent just for being what they are, justifying any Machiavellian politics they pursue to power. I'm interested in a democracy free from the undue influence of powerful, special interests and you think those interests should rule society. People like you are why I unregistered as a Democrat and have pretty much stopped voting for them. It really is Blue MAGA with the establishment worship

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Is Brown about to become a Democratic Lisa Murkowski?

Quite possible. He's probably narrowly favored right now.

[bagelman]

Walton is about to become another Nina Turner

[GoTfan]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

Would you say the same if Brown won the primary and Walton ran?

Of course you wouldn't.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

Would you say the same if Brown won the primary and Walton ran?

Of course you wouldn't.

She literally boasted she would run on a third-party line she already had if she lost the primary.

[GoTfan]

Vote Blue No Matter Who, Except... well, just fill in any progressive candidate who won or looked like they were competitive in a primary.

It's a blue vs blue election.

Would you say the same if Brown won the primary and Walton ran?

Of course you wouldn't.

She literally boasted she would run on a third-party line she already had if she lost the primary.

And right on cue, I hit anti-progressive bingo.