Buffalo, NY - The Comeback Kid

[DrScholl]

Glad to see the unilateral disarmament is over!

Oh please. You couldn't even commit to voting for Biden in 2024. You of all people in this thread don't get to talk - at least MacArthur has been loyal to the party for years!

It's Q's party now. I can't see myself voting for Republicans any time soon. Besides, Biden's probably not running.

Anyway, after Nina Turner responded to her loss by spending days inciting against American Jews getting involved in politics, her entire wing can go to hell. Walton too.

The Republican Party being unacceptable to you doesn't automatically mean the Democratic Party is for you.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Glad to see the unilateral disarmament is over!

Oh please. You couldn't even commit to voting for Biden in 2024. You of all people in this thread don't get to talk - at least MacArthur has been loyal to the party for years!

It's Q's party now. I can't see myself voting for Republicans any time soon. Besides, Biden's probably not running.

Anyway, after Nina Turner responded to her loss by spending days inciting against American Jews getting involved in politics, her entire wing can go to hell. Walton too.

Simmer down, Hogan 2024. You definitely don't get to gatekeep what a Democrat is. And again, you don't know what antisemitism is.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Glad to see the unilateral disarmament is over!

Oh please. You couldn't even commit to voting for Biden in 2024. You of all people in this thread don't get to talk - at least MacArthur has been loyal to the party for years!

It's Q's party now. I can't see myself voting for Republicans any time soon. Besides, Biden's probably not running.

Anyway, after Nina Turner responded to her loss by spending days inciting against American Jews getting involved in politics, her entire wing can go to hell. Walton too.

The Republican Party being unacceptable to you doesn't automatically mean the Democratic Party is for you.

I mean, it seems pretty acceptable to me. I'm in line with the President of the United States on the majority of issues. I'm in line with the Senate Majority Leader on the majority of issues. The Speaker of the House may be a little to my left, but she's proved herself a reasonable figure. Virtually all the Dem Governors seem to be doing an acceptable job. I would vote to re-elect about eighty percent of House and Senate Democrats if I had the chance.

My problem with the party is only a small group of radicals who snuck in via stealth primaries and attempted to transform the party into a clone of the racist scum vultures who lost two elections but managed to massively increase their country's antisemitism stats. Those people sound like they should be minimized for a healthy party.

[free my dawg]

The Republican Party being unacceptable to you doesn't automatically mean the Democratic Party is for you.

I mean, it seems pretty acceptable to me. I'm in line with the President of the United States on the majority of issues. I'm in line with the Senate Majority Leader on the majority of issues. The Speaker of the House may be a little to my left, but she's proved herself a reasonable figure. Virtually all the Dem Governors seem to be doing an acceptable job. I would vote to re-elect about eighty percent of House and Senate Democrats if I had the chance.

My problem with the party is only a small group of radicals who snuck in via stealth primaries and attempted to transform the party into a clone of the racist scum vultures who lost two elections but managed to massively increase their country's antisemitism stats. Those people sound like they should be minimized for a healthy party.

Again - these "entryist radicals" have been committed to the Democratic Party longer than you have. Why is it okay for you to pull the party towards your ideology but not okay for them?

[GoTfan]

The Republican Party being unacceptable to you doesn't automatically mean the Democratic Party is for you.

I mean, it seems pretty acceptable to me. I'm in line with the President of the United States on the majority of issues. I'm in line with the Senate Majority Leader on the majority of issues. The Speaker of the House may be a little to my left, but she's proved herself a reasonable figure. Virtually all the Dem Governors seem to be doing an acceptable job. I would vote to re-elect about eighty percent of House and Senate Democrats if I had the chance.

My problem with the party is only a small group of radicals who snuck in via stealth primaries and attempted to transform the party into a clone of the racist scum vultures who lost two elections but managed to massively increase their country's antisemitism stats. Those people sound like they should be minimized for a healthy party.

Again - these "entryist radicals" have been committed to the Democratic Party longer than you have. Why is it okay for you to pull the party towards your ideology but not okay for them?

Because he doesn't like them therefore they're *literally* reincarnations of Hitler.

Or something like that.

[Continential]

The Republican Party being unacceptable to you doesn't automatically mean the Democratic Party is for you.

I mean, it seems pretty acceptable to me. I'm in line with the President of the United States on the majority of issues. I'm in line with the Senate Majority Leader on the majority of issues. The Speaker of the House may be a little to my left, but she's proved herself a reasonable figure. Virtually all the Dem Governors seem to be doing an acceptable job. I would vote to re-elect about eighty percent of House and Senate Democrats if I had the chance.

My problem with the party is only a small group of radicals who snuck in via stealth primaries and attempted to transform the party into a clone of the racist scum vultures who lost two elections but managed to massively increase their country's antisemitism stats. Those people sound like they should be minimized for a healthy party.

Again - these "entryist radicals" have been committed to the Democratic Party longer than you have. Why is it okay for you to pull the party towards your ideology but not okay for them?

I remember when he called Adam Griffin, a (former) chair of a Georgia county's Democratic Chair an entryist.

[free my dawg]

https://twitter.com/AaronBesecker/status/1434901575944835076?s=19

If you were wondering why Hochul "didn't endorse", this is why. The best endorsement is the one you don't make.

[DrScholl]

I find this to be completely inappropriate. Hochul deserves a primary challenge for pulling this stunt. It's one thing to not endorse, it's another to treat the Democratic nominee for an office like some sort of third party hack.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

https://twitter.com/AaronBesecker/status/1434901575944835076?s=19

If you were wondering why Hochul "didn't endorse", this is why. The best endorsement is the one you don't make.

F***in hell, I had so much hope for Hochul before this mess. I hope she gets primaried

[Suburbia]

I find this to be completely inappropriate. Hochul deserves a primary challenge for pulling this stunt. It's one thing to not endorse, it's another to treat the Democratic nominee for an office like some sort of third party hack.

NY Dems want to be seen as center-left, not hard left. The NYGOP led by Zeldin and Malliotakis will be going around the Buffalo suburbs talking about socialism and defund the police, and that could give Chris Jacobs a second term......

Who do you want to primary Hochul? James? Ocasio-Cortez? de Blasio?

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Hopefully Letitia runs and destroys Hochul

[DrScholl]

I find this to be completely inappropriate. Hochul deserves a primary challenge for pulling this stunt. It's one thing to not endorse, it's another to treat the Democratic nominee for an office like some sort of third party hack.

NY Dems want to be seen as center-left, not hard left. The NYGOP led by Zeldin and Malliotakis will be going around the Buffalo suburbs talking about socialism and defund the police, and that could give Chris Jacobs a second term......

Who do you want to primary Hochul? James? Ocasio-Cortez? de Blasio?

Somebody who want treat Democratic nominees poorly when they have done nothing wrong. If she didn't want to endorse Walton that is her right, but to tell her to stand away from the other Democrats while the Democrat who lost the primary is allowed to stand with them is just rude and petty.

The rest of the state isn't going to vote based on the Buffalo Mayor's race, so who says what about Walton is irrelevant as far as statewide goes. And NY-27 isn't flipping anyway so it's not like Democrats need to worry about it.

[S019]

I think there's a bit of ambiguity about the phrasing here, "India Walton just asked not to stand among pols and others setting up behind where Gov Kathy Hochul will speak before Buffalo Labor Day Parade," to me sounds like Walton, herself asked not to stand there. If she was asked by someone they'd probably used the words "was just" or something similar. In any case, this really isn't worth primarying Hochul over, and I say this as someone who can't care less for the Buffalo mayor race. Brown shouldn't have been on the ballot and should've conceded, and Hochul may privately prefer Brown, but the outrage over this specific incident is a bit ridiculous, especially since, at the moment, Walton is still only a candidate for political office and Brown as the incumbent is still in office for several months, if Walton wins and a similar thing happens next year, then we can reconsider. Until then, everyone should calm down a bit.

[free my dawg]

I think there's a bit of ambiguity about the phrasing here, "India Walton just asked not to stand among pols and others setting up behind where Gov Kathy Hochul will speak before Buffalo Labor Day Parade," to me sounds like Walton, herself asked not to stand there. If she was asked by someone they'd probably used the words "was just" or something similar. In any case, this really isn't worth primarying Hochul over, and I say this as someone who can't care less for the Buffalo mayor race. Brown shouldn't have been on the ballot and should've conceded, and Hochul may privately prefer Brown, but the outrage over this specific incident is a bit ridiculous, especially since, at the moment, Walton is still only a candidate for political office and Brown as the incumbent is still in office for several months, if Walton wins and a similar thing happens next year, then we can reconsider. Until then, everyone should calm down a bit.

https://twitter.com/AaronBesecker/status/1434924428454924291

[S019]

I think there's a bit of ambiguity about the phrasing here, "India Walton just asked not to stand among pols and others setting up behind where Gov Kathy Hochul will speak before Buffalo Labor Day Parade," to me sounds like Walton, herself asked not to stand there. If she was asked by someone they'd probably used the words "was just" or something similar. In any case, this really isn't worth primarying Hochul over, and I say this as someone who can't care less for the Buffalo mayor race. Brown shouldn't have been on the ballot and should've conceded, and Hochul may privately prefer Brown, but the outrage over this specific incident is a bit ridiculous, especially since, at the moment, Walton is still only a candidate for political office and Brown as the incumbent is still in office for several months, if Walton wins and a similar thing happens next year, then we can reconsider. Until then, everyone should calm down a bit.

https://twitter.com/AaronBesecker/status/1434924428454924291

Ah okay, didn't see this, but yeah this is bad, and Hochul really shouldn't have done that. It just seems unnecessarily petty, this doesn't change my views on primarying her, which I still don't support, but Hochul is clearly in the wrong here.

[Adam Griffin]

FWIW, Hochul had nothing to do with this and Walton was one of many asked to step aside for a universal reason:

https://twitter.com/PChase814/status/1434995390860906504

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

So Walton being asked to leave was bad how?

[Duke of York]

So Walton being asked to leave was bad how?

It wasn't. This is an attempt to make a mountain out of molehill. She was not an elected official and therefore was not invited. Official events and campaigns have to be separate.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

So Walton being asked to leave was bad how?

Brown is currently being a massive sore loser and piss baby after losing the democratic primary to Walton, a progressive candidate. Brown being present in this context equates to a tacit endorsement approval. Brown, (or any one who looses a democratic primary and then runs third party) should be made persona non grata to any democrat official. Brown should not have been there.

New York ought to pass a sore loser law like South Carolina has

[DrScholl]

Now that it has been explained I can understand Walton being asked to step aside. There are strict rules about separating government and campaign events. I was under the impression this was a campaign event.

[free my dawg]

So Walton being asked to leave was bad how?

Not necessarily Walton being asked to leave, but Brown being there. Byron Brown had nothing to do with any of those bills. Even featuring him with Hochul suggests partiality, and that "partiality" is against the Democratic nominee.

[free my dawg]

So Walton being asked to leave was bad how?

Brown is currently being a massive sore loser and piss baby after losing the democratic primary to Walton, a progressive candidate. Brown being present in this context is equates to a tacit endorsement approval. Brown, or any one who looses a democratic primary and then runs third party) should be made persona non grata to any democrat official. Brown should not have been there.

New York ought to pass a sore loser law like South Carolina has

Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
Then again, when you're Duke of York and Make America Neoliberal Again and you think Trump's activist judges ruling on their feelings is a good thing because it stops the left, posts like yours probably means nothing to you.

[Calthrina950]

So Walton being asked to leave was bad how?

Not necessarily Walton being asked to leave, but Brown being there. Byron Brown had nothing to do with any of those bills. Even featuring him with Hochul suggests partiality, and that "partiality" is against the Democratic nominee.

You don't seem to be a fan of Hochul's. Do you think she should be primaried?

[free my dawg]

So Walton being asked to leave was bad how?

Not necessarily Walton being asked to leave, but Brown being there. Byron Brown had nothing to do with any of those bills. Even featuring him with Hochul suggests partiality, and that "partiality" is against the Democratic nominee.

You don't seem to be a fan of Hochul's. Do you think she should be primaried?

Absolutely. If the party can go allout against Turner for not supporting the Democratic nominee they should 100% do the same for Hochul.

[Calthrina950]

So Walton being asked to leave was bad how?

Not necessarily Walton being asked to leave, but Brown being there. Byron Brown had nothing to do with any of those bills. Even featuring him with Hochul suggests partiality, and that "partiality" is against the Democratic nominee.

You don't seem to be a fan of Hochul's. Do you think she should be primaried?

Absolutely. If the party can go allout against Turner for not supporting the Democratic nominee they should 100% do the same for Hochul.

The difference is that Hochul seems to be consolidating the support of the Democratic establishment, which Turner had alienated. That's why I don't think the Party is going to go against her, to say nothing of the fact that she's been trying to reach out to progressives as well.