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  Who would win a Harris vs. Warren primary? (search mode)
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Motorcity
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« on: June 23, 2021, 12:09:15 AM »

The winner of an open 2024 Democratic primary for the presidential nominee would be the same as the last two open primaries the party has held: Whoever gains the blessing of the Big O himself.
While Obama could have handed anyone the nomination in both 2016 and 2020 with his endorsment, he didn't

Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden won the nomination without the help of Obama.

(Obama calling Klobuchar and Buttigieg to drop out probably did speed things up for Biden, but only by a week?)
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2021, 03:30:08 PM »

The winner of an open 2024 Democratic primary for the presidential nominee would be the same as the last two open primaries the party has held: Whoever gains the blessing of the Big O himself.
While Obama could have handed anyone the nomination in both 2016 and 2020 with his endorsment, he didn't

Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden won the nomination without the help of Obama.

(Obama calling Klobuchar and Buttigieg to drop out probably did speed things up for Biden, but only by a week?)

Both HRC and Biden won the nom in part to having the support of the Democratic establishment, which from what my little brother has told me from working on Casey's, Maxwell's, and Biden's campaign worships the ground Obama walks on. His approval of a candidate is not an indicator for success, but his disapproval would be a death knell.

Thing is Warren's still in his good graces from being his head of CFPB so who knows?
Eh, kinda. It was obvious that Obama did not want Biden to run and felt Democrats should pass the mantle to the next generation. Numerous times Obama was open to other canidates like Beto or Warren.

Obama was fine with Biden, but he was skeptical he could win the primary. Or have the energy to run in the gerneral. Not disapproval, but the worst type of backing from a president to his VP just short of disapporival
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2021, 05:13:39 PM »

The winner of an open 2024 Democratic primary for the presidential nominee would be the same as the last two open primaries the party has held: Whoever gains the blessing of the Big O himself.
While Obama could have handed anyone the nomination in both 2016 and 2020 with his endorsment, he didn't

Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden won the nomination without the help of Obama.

(Obama calling Klobuchar and Buttigieg to drop out probably did speed things up for Biden, but only by a week?)

Both HRC and Biden won the nom in part to having the support of the Democratic establishment, which from what my little brother has told me from working on Casey's, Maxwell's, and Biden's campaign worships the ground Obama walks on. His approval of a candidate is not an indicator for success, but his disapproval would be a death knell.

Thing is Warren's still in his good graces from being his head of CFPB so who knows?
Eh, kinda. It was obvious that Obama did not want Biden to run and felt Democrats should pass the mantle to the next generation. Numerous times Obama was open to other canidates like Beto or Warren.

Obama was fine with Biden, but he was skeptical he could win the primary. Or have the energy to run in the gerneral. Not disapproval, but the worst type of backing from a president to his VP just short of disapporival
Fair point and it is true that him and his numerous members of his entourage doubted Biden's viability to win the primary. However it's very clear which side of the fence he stood/stands on in the intraparty debate and Obama did see the importance of wrapping things up quick after the ugliness of 2016.

Biden was lucky in numerous ways. One way was there was never a moderate alternative to Biden

Cuomo and Sherrod Brown didn't run.

The only alternatives were Harris, Klobuchar, and Buttigieg

Harris could have "caught fire". But her campaign was always about being VP. It had no plan other than "I will be the first POC women president" which voters don't care about

Buttigieg was gay. Hate to say it, was never going to win the general election

Klobuchar had too little name recognition and didn't really shine until the end

Bloomberg would have handed Trump a 40 state landslide

Outside of Biden, Sanders, and Warren, the "largest and most diverse" field ever was quite weak tbh
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