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« on: June 21, 2021, 02:06:57 PM »

In the unlikely event Biden doesn't seek reelection.

Harris would probably ultimately prevail, but Warren would be a strong challenger.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2021, 02:17:22 PM »

Obviously Kamala.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2021, 02:39:34 PM »

Harris had to drop out last time because Gabbard of all people slapped her across the room during the debate. Warren would win this horrible matchup.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2021, 02:59:54 PM »

Harris had to drop out last time because Gabbard of all people slapped her across the room during the debate. Warren would win this horrible matchup.

When are we going to stop with this myth that Tulsi Gabbard single-handedly destroyed Kamala's campaign lmao
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2021, 03:31:49 PM »

Harris had to drop out last time because Gabbard of all people slapped her across the room during the debate. Warren would win this horrible matchup.

You know that the incumbent president also didn't do well back in 2008 when he was running before being vice president?
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2021, 03:42:27 PM »

The winner of an open 2024 Democratic primary for the presidential nominee would be the same as the last two open primaries the party has held: Whoever gains the blessing of the Big O himself.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2021, 03:42:33 PM »

Warren says she is standing for Reelection not running for Prez again
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2021, 10:31:39 PM »

Harris is favored.
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2021, 09:54:24 AM »

Harris had to drop out last time because Gabbard of all people slapped her across the room during the debate. Warren would win this horrible matchup.

You know that the incumbent president also didn't do well back in 2008 when he was running before being vice president?
But Biden was not looked upon as a high-tier nor a frontrunner candidate like Harris was, and he was running in the same field as Clinton and Obama. It's only his status as being VP is what landed him as the nominee. Even then he barely won the nominee, with Warren splitting the progressive vote.
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2021, 11:27:37 AM »

Warren
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2021, 11:33:02 AM »

Harris is going to be a lot more polished and ready for the spotlight after years of being VP. Her likability should also be much high by being in a non-controversial position. All of that combined with having the establishment behind her, she would take care of Warren.

I love Elizabeth Warren, but she’s just never going to win a National race.
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2021, 12:39:33 PM »

Harris had to drop out last time because Gabbard of all people slapped her across the room during the debate. Warren would win this horrible matchup.

Probably contributed to her decline, but may have not been the main reason. Not to mention Tulsi likely has a higher approval rating among republicans than democrats, despite her being the latter.
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2021, 08:02:32 PM »

Harris. Democratic primary voters have shown themselves to be much more predictable then republican primary voters.
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2021, 08:07:56 PM »
« Edited: June 22, 2021, 08:11:18 PM by Southern Senator Spark »



Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA) - 39 states, 68%
Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 11 states, 32%
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2021, 12:09:15 AM »

The winner of an open 2024 Democratic primary for the presidential nominee would be the same as the last two open primaries the party has held: Whoever gains the blessing of the Big O himself.
While Obama could have handed anyone the nomination in both 2016 and 2020 with his endorsment, he didn't

Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden won the nomination without the help of Obama.

(Obama calling Klobuchar and Buttigieg to drop out probably did speed things up for Biden, but only by a week?)
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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2021, 12:59:24 AM »

Again, Warren said she is running for Reelection in 2024/ not for Prez, she doesn't want to vacate her seat
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2021, 03:45:35 AM »

Harris had to drop out last time because Gabbard of all people slapped her across the room during the debate. Warren would win this horrible matchup.

You know that the incumbent president also didn't do well back in 2008 when he was running before being vice president?
But Biden was not looked upon as a high-tier nor a frontrunner candidate like Harris was, and he was running in the same field as Clinton and Obama. It's only his status as being VP is what landed him as the nominee. Even then he barely won the nominee, with Warren splitting the progressive vote.

Biden won a landslide and on Super Tuesday Bloomberg almost entirely took voters that would have gone to him while Warren's educated voters would have split pretty evenly between the candidates.

Anyway Warren is old news so anti-Harris Dems need a stronger challenger.
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2021, 02:42:30 PM »

Harris had to drop out last time because Gabbard of all people slapped her across the room during the debate. Warren would win this horrible matchup.

Except now Kamala is vice-president. (And Warren's no strong candidate; she finished third in Massachusetts.)
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2021, 02:44:44 PM »

Again, Warren said she is running for Reelection in 2024/ not for Prez, she doesn't want to vacate her seat

She can 'change her mind', just like Obama (he promised he wouldn't run for president in 2008), and Rubio (he promised he wouldn't run in 2016 for reelection to the senate), and win (Obama and Rubio won their respective races).
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2021, 03:25:43 PM »

The winner of an open 2024 Democratic primary for the presidential nominee would be the same as the last two open primaries the party has held: Whoever gains the blessing of the Big O himself.
While Obama could have handed anyone the nomination in both 2016 and 2020 with his endorsment, he didn't

Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden won the nomination without the help of Obama.

(Obama calling Klobuchar and Buttigieg to drop out probably did speed things up for Biden, but only by a week?)

Both HRC and Biden won the nom in part to having the support of the Democratic establishment, which from what my little brother has told me from working on Casey's, Maxwell's, and Biden's campaign worships the ground Obama walks on. His approval of a candidate is not an indicator for success, but his disapproval would be a death knell.

Thing is Warren's still in his good graces from being his head of CFPB so who knows?
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2021, 03:30:08 PM »

The winner of an open 2024 Democratic primary for the presidential nominee would be the same as the last two open primaries the party has held: Whoever gains the blessing of the Big O himself.
While Obama could have handed anyone the nomination in both 2016 and 2020 with his endorsment, he didn't

Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden won the nomination without the help of Obama.

(Obama calling Klobuchar and Buttigieg to drop out probably did speed things up for Biden, but only by a week?)

Both HRC and Biden won the nom in part to having the support of the Democratic establishment, which from what my little brother has told me from working on Casey's, Maxwell's, and Biden's campaign worships the ground Obama walks on. His approval of a candidate is not an indicator for success, but his disapproval would be a death knell.

Thing is Warren's still in his good graces from being his head of CFPB so who knows?
Eh, kinda. It was obvious that Obama did not want Biden to run and felt Democrats should pass the mantle to the next generation. Numerous times Obama was open to other canidates like Beto or Warren.

Obama was fine with Biden, but he was skeptical he could win the primary. Or have the energy to run in the gerneral. Not disapproval, but the worst type of backing from a president to his VP just short of disapporival
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2021, 05:02:31 PM »

The winner of an open 2024 Democratic primary for the presidential nominee would be the same as the last two open primaries the party has held: Whoever gains the blessing of the Big O himself.
While Obama could have handed anyone the nomination in both 2016 and 2020 with his endorsment, he didn't

Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden won the nomination without the help of Obama.

(Obama calling Klobuchar and Buttigieg to drop out probably did speed things up for Biden, but only by a week?)

Both HRC and Biden won the nom in part to having the support of the Democratic establishment, which from what my little brother has told me from working on Casey's, Maxwell's, and Biden's campaign worships the ground Obama walks on. His approval of a candidate is not an indicator for success, but his disapproval would be a death knell.

Thing is Warren's still in his good graces from being his head of CFPB so who knows?
Eh, kinda. It was obvious that Obama did not want Biden to run and felt Democrats should pass the mantle to the next generation. Numerous times Obama was open to other canidates like Beto or Warren.

Obama was fine with Biden, but he was skeptical he could win the primary. Or have the energy to run in the gerneral. Not disapproval, but the worst type of backing from a president to his VP just short of disapporival
Fair point and it is true that him and his numerous members of his entourage doubted Biden's viability to win the primary. However it's very clear which side of the fence he stood/stands on in the intraparty debate and Obama did see the importance of wrapping things up quick after the ugliness of 2016.
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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2021, 05:13:39 PM »

The winner of an open 2024 Democratic primary for the presidential nominee would be the same as the last two open primaries the party has held: Whoever gains the blessing of the Big O himself.
While Obama could have handed anyone the nomination in both 2016 and 2020 with his endorsment, he didn't

Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden won the nomination without the help of Obama.

(Obama calling Klobuchar and Buttigieg to drop out probably did speed things up for Biden, but only by a week?)

Both HRC and Biden won the nom in part to having the support of the Democratic establishment, which from what my little brother has told me from working on Casey's, Maxwell's, and Biden's campaign worships the ground Obama walks on. His approval of a candidate is not an indicator for success, but his disapproval would be a death knell.

Thing is Warren's still in his good graces from being his head of CFPB so who knows?
Eh, kinda. It was obvious that Obama did not want Biden to run and felt Democrats should pass the mantle to the next generation. Numerous times Obama was open to other canidates like Beto or Warren.

Obama was fine with Biden, but he was skeptical he could win the primary. Or have the energy to run in the gerneral. Not disapproval, but the worst type of backing from a president to his VP just short of disapporival
Fair point and it is true that him and his numerous members of his entourage doubted Biden's viability to win the primary. However it's very clear which side of the fence he stood/stands on in the intraparty debate and Obama did see the importance of wrapping things up quick after the ugliness of 2016.

Biden was lucky in numerous ways. One way was there was never a moderate alternative to Biden

Cuomo and Sherrod Brown didn't run.

The only alternatives were Harris, Klobuchar, and Buttigieg

Harris could have "caught fire". But her campaign was always about being VP. It had no plan other than "I will be the first POC women president" which voters don't care about

Buttigieg was gay. Hate to say it, was never going to win the general election

Klobuchar had too little name recognition and didn't really shine until the end

Bloomberg would have handed Trump a 40 state landslide

Outside of Biden, Sanders, and Warren, the "largest and most diverse" field ever was quite weak tbh
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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2021, 05:47:30 PM »

Warren is an absolutely terrible candidate. She won't win any state.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2021, 10:29:02 AM »

Warren. Kamala can't find her way out of a wet paper bag.
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