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« Reply #75 on: July 17, 2021, 04:24:05 PM »

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« Reply #76 on: July 27, 2021, 06:02:19 PM »

Would there be interest in restarting this?
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« Reply #77 on: July 27, 2021, 06:21:08 PM »

Would there be interest in restarting this?

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« Reply #78 on: July 27, 2021, 07:28:51 PM »

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« Reply #79 on: July 27, 2021, 07:35:22 PM »

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« Reply #80 on: July 27, 2021, 08:26:51 PM »

Would there be interest in restarting this?

You have no more updates?
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« Reply #81 on: July 28, 2021, 01:39:41 AM »

Would there be interest in restarting this?

You have no more updates?

Oh I do, I have a rough outline until the 2020 election night. I just wondered if anyone was interested in reading my posts
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« Reply #82 on: July 28, 2021, 10:32:01 AM »

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« Reply #83 on: July 28, 2021, 11:09:34 AM »

Would there be interest in restarting this?

You have no more updates?

Oh I do, I have a rough outline until the 2020 election night. I just wondered if anyone was interested in reading my posts

Not everyone is commenting, but I can assure you we are reading them.  And I’d rather you continue with this timeline rather than start over, which can be irritating.
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« Reply #84 on: July 29, 2021, 11:49:40 AM »

Warren scores decisive win in the Vice Presidential debate

Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren has, according to most people, bested former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin and Ohio Governor John Kasich in the Vice Presidential debate. The CNN flash poll indicated that 52% thought Warren won the confrontation, while only 23% said Kasich and 18% said Palin.

Most people found Palin to be incoherent and lacking policy knowledge during the debate, and were overall unimpressed by her attempts to scare the country about socialism. Warren adopted an interesting strategy, letting Palin speak uninterrupted and dig her own grave. However, one moment in which the candidates did clash was when Palin, following the lead of her running mate, called Warren Pocahontas and disputed her Native American ancestry, to which Warren replied that this kind of racism is exactly what she and Sanders were fighting against and called for all minorities to come together and vote to defeat racism at the ballot box.

Kasich on the other hand was constantly attacked by both of his opponents. Palin called him a traitor who betrayed the real conservatives who voted for him to be the Governor of Ohio and said that any vote for Bloomberg and Kasich is actually a vote for Sanders. Warren on the other hand was much more effective, challenging the lack of real policies offered by the independent ticket, which, out of fear of upsetting anyone, has mostly spoken in platitudes about the issues at hand. To these attacks, Kasich responded with more talking points, which was self-defeating in the eyes of the electorate. The independent ticket seems to be slowly dropping as the country repolarizes, perhaps enough to keep Bloomberg out of the third debate.
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« Reply #85 on: July 30, 2021, 04:05:25 AM »

Shocking tapes leak threatens to put an end to the Trump campaign

In a bombshell story, the Washington Post has published a 2005 conversation between Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump and host Billy Bush in which Trump bragged about sexually assaulting women and made other derisive comments about them. The tapes have caused an uproar of bipartisan condemnation, with the Democrats and supporters of the independent Bloomberg campaign criticizing in the strongest possible terms the words of the businessman, however, even Republicans supporting Trump were distraught by the comments.

The GOP was not, however, as quick to distance itself from Trump as it could have been, which was pointed out repeatedly by the Democrats running down-ballot. With the overwhelming majority of moderates and Never Trumpers already endorsing Bloomberg, the big wave of dropped endorsements expected by the media never came. And nobody in their serious mind called for Trump to drop off the ticket, given that Sarah Palin would be the presidential nominee in such a scenario. No conservative Republican wanted to take the blame for the likely Sanders victory, however, in private, party operatives admitted that it was over and that now it is crucial to be focused on saving the House and Senate races. Trump, as always, remained dismissive and categorically refused to back down.

General Election Polling - National

Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 42,9%
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Former Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 34,7%
Former Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY)/Governor John Kasich (R-OH) - 19,6%
Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Former Governor Bill Weld (L-MA) - 2,4%
Former CIA Officer Evan McMullin (R-UT)/Consultant Mindy Finn (R-DC) - 0,4%
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« Reply #86 on: August 01, 2021, 01:24:04 AM »

Interesting timeline. Keep it up.
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« Reply #87 on: August 01, 2021, 05:35:02 AM »

The Second Presidential Debate - another victory for Sanders

The Second Presidential Debate, which took place in the form of a town hall, happened in the shadow of the Access Hollywood tapes, which might have put an end to the Trump campaign. However, the ever-defiant businessman refused to accept such a verdict and went all in during the debate, constantly attacking his rivals - Senator Bernie Sanders and Former NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Here is the highlight of the debate -

Cooper - Mr. Trump, there has been a lot of concern and frankly, disgust, in the society around the Access Holywood tapes, in which you bragged about sexually assaulting women...
Trump - No, no, no. Wrong. So wrong. I have never sexually assaulted women, it is a lie by the fake news media. No one has treated women better than me...
Cooper - Mr. Trump, do you understand that what you have been heard describing in that conversation is, in fact, sexual assault?
Trump - That was locker room talk. And I am not proud of it and I have apologized to my family, but this election is about so much more than this conversation. I am running against the most dangerous ticket in the history of our country. They would impose socialism in the United States. I do not want our country to turn into another Cuba or the Soviet Union, and I am sure that no one watching us wants that either. So we all need to vote to stop that from happening because this election is about so much more than some locker room talk.
Cooper - Thank you, Mr. Trump. Senator Sanders, would you like to respond?
Sanders - What that conversation proves, without a shadow of a doubt, is that Mr. Trump is unqualified to be the President of all Americans. The President should be a model for our children, a standard of morality. How could someone, who has bragged about sexually assaulting women, be any of that? Mr. Trump knows, probably, that he is not qualified to be President, and thus he tried to bypass that by fear-mongering against my policies. But here is the deal. My policies are designed to offer to the citizens of the United States what every other major country on Earth provides. There is nothing radical about it. What is truly out of the ordinary is the status quo that the elites behind Donald Trump are trying to preserve.
Cooper - Thank you, Senator Sanders. Mayor Bloomberg, what are your thoughts on those tapes?
Bloomberg - I am here because the major parties have let America down by nominating an off-the-wall socialist and a quasi-fascist for the Presidency of the United States. Now, these tapes prove that Mr. Trump is an extremist and a sexist who looks down on women and has no business being the President of the country our daughters live in. Look...
Sanders - Do you want to discuss your record on how you have treated women, Mayor Bloomberg? I am sure the American people would like to know how many non-disclosure agreements you and your company have signed?

According to the CNN flash poll, Sanders won decisively, proving to most Americans that he would be the best role model as President. 53% said Sanders won, 30% said Trump, and only 12% said Bloomberg

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« Reply #88 on: August 01, 2021, 02:19:14 PM »

Warren - in the middle of a controversy after DNA test

Because of relentless attacks by the Republican ticket on her supposed Native American heritage, Senator Elizabeth Warren has decided to take a DNA test to put to bed the controversy. Instead, it added fuel to the fire. According to the results, Warren is only 1/1024 Native American. This has allowed Donald Trump to strike back and try to move media coverage away from the Access Holywood tape, to moderate success. The Democrats sent Warren out to apologize for claiming she was Native American, but the damage was pretty much done. This will be of help to Trump as he tries to close the huge gap between him and Sanders both in national and state polls.
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« Reply #89 on: August 04, 2021, 05:10:13 PM »

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« Reply #90 on: August 05, 2021, 01:51:40 PM »

The Third Presidential Debate - Trump steps up his game?

The Third Presidential Debate was widely viewed as the last chance for a game-changer in this unpredictable election. And it was the best performance of Republican nominee Donald Trump up to date, especially after he tied in the first debate and lost the second one. He was entering it still wounded after Access Holywood but in a favorable news cycle given the Warren controversy. And the CNN flash poll points to him as the winner. Michael Bloomberg once again underperformed, however, Sanders also had a solid debate, so it will probably not be enough to narrow the gap too much. Here is the moment that many say has helped Trump the most -

Bloomberg - ...and what I will do is I will look at the qualifications of the judge, not on whether he or she agrees with me on the issues, and nominate accordingly. I will keep partisanship out of judicial nominees.
Trump - Excuse me for just one second. What that means is that he is willing to appoint anyone he would gain political capital from. So, Republicans, he would nominate judges who would expand the government, protect abortion, take away your 2nd amendment rights, and mandating open borders. This is what you get with this guy in charge. Liberal, activist judges. What I would do...

The CNN flash poll shows that 45% think Trump won the debate, while 37% say Sanders and only 9% say Bloomberg.


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« Reply #91 on: August 05, 2021, 02:10:33 PM »

COUNTDOWN TO ELECTION DAY - Turnout, projected to be sky high

Tapper - You are watching CNN, Countdown to Election Day. A historic event which could change the future of our country is only 4 days away. And Americans are listening. Reports from states which use early voting report an increase of 5 to 10% in the number of ballots that were requested compared to 2012, and similar numbers are reported for voter registration. Models from all three campaigns and nonpartisan sources report a likely turnout of over 60%. People are voting and regardless of who they are voting for, that is a good thing. Now back to the actual campaigning - all candidates and their running mates are out on the trail. The Sanders and Trump campaigns have their schedules packed, with huge rallies all over the battleground states that are seeing crowds in the tens of thousands. Bernie Sanders and his running mate Elizabeth Warren are scheduled to speak to a crowd of over 30.000 in Philadelphia on Election Eve, where they will be joined by many Democratic politicians as well as the President and Vice President, to end their campaign. Donald Trump and Sarah Palin will put an end to this journey in Miami, Florida, where they expect a similarly large crowd. Michael Bloomberg on the other hand is much less on the trail and has very small crowds, something that is often sarcastically pointed out by the Republican nominee. However, he is expecting an at least decent crowd at his final event in the Atlanta suburbs, where he will be joined by none other than Mitt Romney, the 2012 nominee. Sanders is ahead in the polls, but here at CNN, we will count every vote and let you lead the way.

General Election Polling - National

Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 43,2%
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Former Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 37,9%
Former Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY)/Governor John Kasich (R-OH) - 16,5%
Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Former Governor Bill Weld (L-MA) - 2,1%
Former CIA Officer Evan McMullin (R-UT)/Consultant Mindy Finn (R-DC) - 0,3%
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« Reply #92 on: August 05, 2021, 02:39:26 PM »

ELECTION NIGHT IN AMERICA

Blitzer - Hello to viewers in the United States and around the world and welcome to the CNN coverage of Election Night in America. After an election season like no other, which has shaken the main parties to the point in which they can are unrecognizable, tonight we will find out who is the next President of the United States. Will the frontrunner, Democratic Senator Bernie Sanders, a self-proclaimed socialist who has stunningly defeated Hillary Clinton for the nomination, win the White House and enact sweeping left-wing reforms? Or will the Republican nominee, Businessman Donald Trump, pull off an upset and become the first President without any political or military experience in a rebuke of socialism and Sanders? Or perhaps the Independent Michael Bloomberg will pull off the upset of the century and become the first independent elected since George Washington, or at least manage to push the election into the House, where he could well win? Let us also not forget about Independent Republican Evan McMullin who threatens to take away the safe red state of Utah from the Republican ticket. All of that and more, including the crucial down-ballot races that will shape the term of whoever wins the White House, tonight. And now, we have a key race alert for the first results from Indiana and Kentucky.
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« Reply #93 on: August 05, 2021, 03:00:50 PM »

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« Reply #94 on: August 06, 2021, 09:59:27 AM »

ELECTION NIGHT IN AMERICA

Disclaimer - The different counties within a state will not necessarily report their results in the same order as OTL

Blitzer - And now, we have a key race alert for the first results from Indiana and Kentucky

Indiana Presidential Election - 1% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 47.3%
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 36.6%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 14.2%

Kentucky Presidential Election - 1% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 59.7%
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 31.9%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 8.5%

Donald Trump and Sarah Palin are ahead in both of these safely red states, however, neither of them can be called at the moment. So far, the Electoral College is still 0 for Sanders, 0 for Trump, and 0 for Bloomberg. Dana, do you have some numbers for those crucial down-ballot races?

Dana Bash - Yes, indeed I have. In Kentucky, the Senate seat is disputed between incumbent Senator Rand Paul and the Mayor of Lexington, Jim Gray. Too early to call there as the polls are still open in some parts of the state, but Paul is ahead in early returns. In Indiana, there is a very crucial Senate race between Representative Todd Young, who is trying to keep this seat in Republican hands against popular former Senator Evan Bayh. And in the Indiana gubernatorial race, Democrats think they have a chance at unseating Governor Mike Pence, who reportedly turned down an offer to be the running mate of Donald Trump and who is controversial in the state, and replace him with former Speaker of the Indiana House John Gregg. Both of these races are too early to call, but Republicans lead in early results.

Indiana Senate Election - 1% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Todd Young - 53.1%
Evan Bayh - 45.6%

Indiana Gubernatorial Election - 1% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Mike Pence - 53.8%
John Gregg - 45.7%

Kentucky Senate Election - 1% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Rand Paul - 57.6%
Jim Gray - 42%




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« Reply #95 on: August 06, 2021, 12:10:08 PM »
« Edited: August 06, 2021, 01:21:28 PM by RGM2609 »

ELECTION NIGHT IN AMERICA

Disclaimer - The different counties within a state will not necessarily report their results in the same order as OTL

Blitzer - As we are nearing 7 PM on the East Coast when many states will close their polls, including the crucial states of Florida, Virginia, and Georgia, we shall have a look at the latest numbers from Indiana and Kentucky

Indiana Presidential Election - 12% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 46.5%
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 36.9%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 15%

Kentucky Presidential Election - 14% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 64.8%
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 27.4%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 6.3%

Donald Trump still holding a lead in these two red states. Now, it is 7 PM on the East Coast, and we have two calls to make - Kentucky for Donald Trump, no surprise there, although his big numbers in some of those counties currently reporting seem to suggest an overperformance in coal county, and, of course, Vermont for Bernie Sanders. The Electoral College is now 8 for Trump, 3 for Sanders, and 0 for Bloomberg. We have a long way to go, folks, until 270. Two states however are too close to call - Georgia and Virginia. Indiana and South Carolina are too early to call. Now, Dana has some projections for us in the Senate races. Dana?

Dana Bash - Thank you, Wolf. CNN can now project that Senator Tim Scott has been re-elected in South Carolina and Senator Patrick Leahy has been re-elected in Vermont. No surprise in either of these races. No projection for now in the other races.


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Blitzer - We are a few minutes past 7 PM, and we have a key race alert as we have received more data from many states.

Florida Presidential Election - 2% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 40.1%
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 39.5%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 18.6%

Georgia Presidential Election - 1% reporting - TOO CLOSE TO CALL
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 42.8%
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 32.7%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 22.4%

Indiana Presidential Election - 19% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 44.2%
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 38.3%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 15.9%

New Hampshire Presidential Election - 4% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 36.9%
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Waren - 36.5%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 25.1%

South Carolina Presidential Election - 2% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 38.8%
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 36.6%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 22.7%

Virginia Presidential Election - 5% reporting - TOO CLOSE TO CALL
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 43.7%
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 35.1%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 19.5%

This is very early in most of these states, but Trump is ahead in Florida, Georgia, Indiana, New Hampshire, and Virginia. Sanders is only ahead in South Carolina. Does that mean anything? Our panel will discuss that soon. But first, over to Dana for the down-ballot races.

Dana Bash - Thank you, Wolf. In the past few minutes, we have got more numbers in all of these races. Here they are.

Florida Senate Election - 2% reporting - TOO CLOSE TO CALL
Marco Rubio - 51.9%
Patrick Murphy - 47.7%

Georgia Senate Election - 1% reporting - TOO CLOSE TO CALL
Johnny Isakson - 55.2%
Jim Barksdale - 44.4%

Indiana Senate Election - 19% reporting - TOO CLOSE TO CALL
Todd Young - 51.4%
Evan Bayh - 47.9%

Indiana Gubernatorial Election - 19% reporting - TOO CLOSE TO CALL
Mike Pence - 52.5%
John Gregg - 47.1%

Kentucky Senate Election - 19% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Rand Paul - 58.8%
Jim Gray - 40.7%

New Hampshire Senate Election - 4% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Kelly Ayotte - 52.4%
Maggie Hassan - 46.9%

New Hampshire Gubernatorial Election - 4% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Chris Sununu - 53.1%
Collin van Ostern - 46.3%

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« Reply #96 on: August 07, 2021, 03:22:57 AM »

ELECTION NIGHT IN AMERICA

Blitzer - It is now 7 30 PM and polls are now closing in three states, including the crucial battlegrounds of Ohio and North Carolina. And we can make a projection - CNN can now project West Virginia for Donald Trump. Once a safe blue state, West Virginia has trended Republican for years, starting with going for Bush in 2000, and tonight, it will go for Trump by a very big margin according to our exit polls. The Electoral College stands at 13 for Trump, 3 for Sanders, and 0 for Bloomberg. Ohio and North Carolina are too close to call. And now, a key race alert.

Florida Presidential Election - 11% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 43.8%
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 38.1%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 16.2%

Georgia Presidential Election - 12% reporting - TOO CLOSE TO CALL
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 43.8%
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 34.9%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 19.7%

Indiana Presidential Election - 32% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 46.8%
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 38.2%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 13.3%

New Hampshire Presidential Election - 9% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 39.1%
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 37.5%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 21.9%

South Carolina Presidential Election - 9% reporting - TOO EARLY TO CALL
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 42.1%
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 32.3%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 24%

Virginia Presidential Election - 16% reporting - TOO CLOSE TO CALL
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 40.3%
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 38.9%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 19.1%

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Blitzer - Key race alert right now, as we are getting the first results out of the key states of Ohio and North Carolina

North Carolina Presidential Election - 6% reporting - TOO CLOSE TO CALL
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 43.4%
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 35.2%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 19.7%

Ohio Presidential Election - 6% reporting - TOO CLOSE TO CALL
Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 48.6%
Donald Trump/Sarah Palin - 32.7%
Michael Bloomberg/John Kasich - 17.1%
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« Reply #97 on: August 09, 2021, 10:12:19 PM »

This is a fascinating election.  With two outsider candidates (and not just one) and the strongest third party candidate since 1992, it is difficult to predict how the 2016 election would have gone. 
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« Reply #98 on: August 10, 2021, 08:24:34 AM »

This is a fascinating election.  With two outsider candidates (and not just one) and the strongest third party candidate since 1992, it is difficult to predict how the 2016 election would have gone. 


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« Reply #99 on: August 13, 2021, 11:08:39 AM »

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