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« Reply #1925 on: November 14, 2022, 02:31:23 PM »

Can't wait for the Jan 6 committee to be disbanded. Maybe we get a Hunter Biden one as a replacement?



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« Reply #1926 on: November 14, 2022, 02:33:03 PM »

Can't wait for the Jan 6 committee to be disbanded. Maybe we get a Hunter Biden one as a replacement?

Yeah, because Hunter Biden has attempted a coup and his responsible for multiple deaths, including police officers.

I bet AZ Iced Tea still considers himself ďpro-police,Ē though. Itís as President Biden said: if you canít completely and unequivocally condemn and oppose January 6, you have absolutely no right to say youíre pro-police or support police officers.
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« Reply #1927 on: November 14, 2022, 07:43:31 PM »


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« Reply #1928 on: November 14, 2022, 08:53:27 PM »

Can't wait for the Jan 6 committee to be disbanded. Maybe we get a Hunter Biden one as a replacement?


Donald Trump hates you.

He hates America.

He hates the Republican Party.

Itís weird that you still want to suck at his teet.
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« Reply #1929 on: November 14, 2022, 10:11:30 PM »

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« Reply #1930 on: November 15, 2022, 04:08:04 PM »


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« Reply #1931 on: November 17, 2022, 03:44:31 PM »

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« Reply #1932 on: November 18, 2022, 01:45:47 PM »

Special Counsel has been named for MAL and this per NBC news.
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« Reply #1933 on: November 18, 2022, 01:58:09 PM »

DOJ to announce special counsel for Trump-related Mar-a-Lago and January 6 investigations

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Attorney General Merrick Garland plans to announce Friday that he has appointed a special counsel to oversee investigations into the retention of national defense information at former President Donald Trumpís Mar-a-Lago resort and key aspects of the criminal investigation into January 6, 2021, according to a senior Justice Department official.

Both investigations implicate the conduct of Trump, who on Tuesday declared his candidacy in the 2024 presidential race, making him a potential rival of President Joe Biden.

Justice Department officials have been debating for weeks whether to appoint a special counsel, CNN previously reported.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/18/politics/justice-department-trump-special-counsel/index.html
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« Reply #1934 on: November 18, 2022, 02:04:36 PM »

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« Reply #1935 on: November 18, 2022, 04:13:25 PM »

Sounds any potential federal J6 prosecutions, excluding those already in progress or involving physical presence at the Capitol Building, are now in the hands of the Special Counsel.
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« Reply #1936 on: November 20, 2022, 02:40:49 PM »


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« Reply #1937 on: November 20, 2022, 02:43:26 PM »




I guess they have to? Because Republicans will shut everything down come January.
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« Reply #1938 on: November 20, 2022, 03:54:44 PM »

In another interview I heard, Lofgren said they'll release the standard report that "a few people will read" and also release something that is more accessible for the public.
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« Reply #1939 on: November 22, 2022, 10:12:55 AM »

Lindsey Graham will testify before the Fulton County special grand jury today.
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« Reply #1940 on: November 22, 2022, 02:46:07 PM »



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« Reply #1941 on: November 23, 2022, 02:21:45 PM »



Pence avoided speaking to the J6 committee, but I suspect he'll have a harder time evading the DOJ.
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« Reply #1942 on: November 24, 2022, 02:40:46 PM »

Potentially stupid question: Couldn't the January 6 committee just continue in the senate, where Democrats have the majority? I think Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins and a few others might be willing to participate for the Republican side?
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« Reply #1943 on: November 24, 2022, 05:25:44 PM »

Potentially stupid question: Couldn't the January 6 committee just continue in the senate, where Democrats have the majority? I think Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins and a few others might be willing to participate for the Republican side?

Sure but the last session of the House made clear that it had run out of material. I don't think there is a Trump crime arising from Jan 6, just impeachment and conviction action. As Andy McCarthy observed, instead of impeaching with no ensuing conviction in play, the House should have just kept going with impeachment hearings until the chances of a Senate conviction were maximized, and then the conviction penalty would be a bar to future Federal office for the ex-President Trump. The whole process was otherwise meaningless given that Trump had but a fortnight of time left in office. If he went rogue, Pence could have pressed the incapacity button, and Trump knew that. As it was, Pence illegally ordered law enforcement to protect the Capitol with Trump AWOL.

That is my take of events anyway.
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« Reply #1944 on: November 28, 2022, 01:20:52 PM »

Potentially stupid question: Couldn't the January 6 committee just continue in the senate, where Democrats have the majority? I think Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins and a few others might be willing to participate for the Republican side?

Sure but the last session of the House made clear that it had run out of material. I don't think there is a Trump crime arising from Jan 6, just impeachment and conviction action. As Andy McCarthy observed, instead of impeaching with no ensuing conviction in play, the House should have just kept going with impeachment hearings until the chances of a Senate conviction were maximized, and then the conviction penalty would be a bar to future Federal office for the ex-President Trump. The whole process was otherwise meaningless given that Trump had but a fortnight of time left in office. If he went rogue, Pence could have pressed the incapacity button, and Trump knew that. As it was, Pence illegally ordered law enforcement to protect the Capitol with Trump AWOL.

That is my take of events anyway.

Whether or not there is a chargable Trump crime re: the January 6th assault on the Capitol that attempted to keep him in power depends on how far the DoJ is able to prove the chain of conspiracy regarding the organization of the attack.

That the mob Trump's campaign organized and which he incited attacked the Capitol with assistance and encouragement from members of the Proud Boys and other pro-Truml militants is well established.

Likewise, that the milita seeded into the mob were taking direction from their own leaders, and that their goals were seditious has been proven in court.

That pro-Trump milita leadership were in contact with Trump associates, like Roger Stone, is well-documented fact.

As far as I know,  beyond that point the cut-outs Trump used for his treasonous plot (note that even a plan to "just" threaten Pence by force to illegally overturn the election is treason) have been effective. To indict Trump over this particular set of crimes, the links that need to be proved are that instructions and information flowed between milita leadership and Trump's inner circle, and that those orders and information were passed at the direction of, or with the knowledge and approval of, Donald Trump.

While it has not been flashy or swift, Merrjt Garland's DoJ has been steadily building that chain. Hopefully the Special Prosecutor will be able to complete it. The investigation keeps slowly closing in. For example, the recent case of Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio showed that his associates at least believed he was in communication with Trump Junior about the Capitol attack.
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« Reply #1945 on: November 28, 2022, 04:42:51 PM »

Potentially stupid question: Couldn't the January 6 committee just continue in the senate, where Democrats have the majority? I think Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins and a few others might be willing to participate for the Republican side?

Sure but the last session of the House made clear that it had run out of material. I don't think there is a Trump crime arising from Jan 6, just impeachment and conviction action. As Andy McCarthy observed, instead of impeaching with no ensuing conviction in play, the House should have just kept going with impeachment hearings until the chances of a Senate conviction were maximized, and then the conviction penalty would be a bar to future Federal office for the ex-President Trump. The whole process was otherwise meaningless given that Trump had but a fortnight of time left in office. If he went rogue, Pence could have pressed the incapacity button, and Trump knew that. As it was, Pence illegally ordered law enforcement to protect the Capitol with Trump AWOL.

That is my take of events anyway.

Whether or not there is a chargable Trump crime re: the January 6th assault on the Capitol that attempted to keep him in power depends on how far the DoJ is able to prove the chain of conspiracy regarding the organization of the attack.

That the mob Trump's campaign organized and which he incited attacked the Capitol with assistance and encouragement from members of the Proud Boys and other pro-Truml militants is well established.

Likewise, that the milita seeded into the mob were taking direction from their own leaders, and that their goals were seditious has been proven in court.

That pro-Trump milita leadership were in contact with Trump associates, like Roger Stone, is well-documented fact.

As far as I know,  beyond that point the cut-outs Trump used for his treasonous plot (note that even a plan to "just" threaten Pence by force to illegally overturn the election is treason) have been effective. To indict Trump over this particular set of crimes, the links that need to be proved are that instructions and information flowed between milita leadership and Trump's inner circle, and that those orders and information were passed at the direction of, or with the knowledge and approval of, Donald Trump.

While it has not been flashy or swift, Merrjt Garland's DoJ has been steadily building that chain. Hopefully the Special Prosecutor will be able to complete it. The investigation keeps slowly closing in. For example, the recent case of Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio showed that his associates at least believed he was in communication with Trump Junior about the Capitol attack.

"To indict Trump over this particular set of crimes, the links that need to be proved are that instructions and information flowed between milita leadership and Trump's inner circle, and that those orders and information were passed at the direction of, or with the knowledge and approval of, Donald Trump."

I totally agree. No such evidence has hit the public square. I would think it would have if anything was there, but keep hope alive. The most damming element is the pardon Trump gave Roger Stone, so he can't be turned assuming he was the conduit. What Trump did however is a textbook example of when a POTUS should be removed from office through the impeachment process.

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« Reply #1946 on: November 29, 2022, 04:33:17 PM »

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« Reply #1947 on: November 29, 2022, 04:43:31 PM »



Does Meadows live in South Carolina, or why is their Supreme Court ordering a North Carolina politician to cooperate with an investigation that takes place in Georgia? The article doesn't really answer that.
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« Reply #1948 on: November 29, 2022, 04:51:26 PM »

There's a verdict in the Oath Keepers seditious conspiracy trial. We're still waiting on that.
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« Reply #1949 on: November 29, 2022, 04:53:45 PM »



Does Meadows live in South Carolina, or why is their Supreme Court ordering a North Carolina politician to cooperate with an investigation that takes place in Georgia? The article doesn't really answer that.

Meadows now lives in South Carolina.
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