How would Buttigieg have done in the midwest rust belt states in the General Election?
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Question: If Pete Buttigieg took on Trump, hailing from South Bend, Indiana, how well would he do in the rust belt?
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Better than Biden
 
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About the same as Biden
 
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Worse than Biden
 
#4
He would SWEEP everything, winning Iowa, Indiana, Ohio
 
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He would get swept by Trump
 
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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2021, 06:42:28 PM »

I don't think he'd be a disaster, but he'd certainly do worse than Biden.

To an extent I think people are underestimating the levels partisanship in this country. I don't think there'd be that many people who would have a preference of Biden > Trump > other Dems.
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« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2021, 12:30:39 AM »

I don't think he'd be a disaster, but he'd certainly do worse than Biden.

To an extent I think people are underestimating the levels partisanship in this country. I don't think there'd be that many people who would have a preference of Biden > Trump > other Dems.
You are right

That said, considering how close the election was, yes the "Biden>Trump>Generic D" voter was a significant factor. I do think there was a small sliver of voters who would only vote for Biden. Otherwise, Trump would have won. Maybe by a lot.

There was a reason Trump feared Biden...
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« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2021, 07:42:15 PM »

Worse than Biden, but I think he would have won Wisconsin by 0.1-0.5, Michigan by 0.5-2.0, and Pennsylvania by 0.1-0.9
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« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2021, 03:18:25 PM »

Worse than Biden, but I think he would have won Wisconsin by 0.1-0.5, Michigan by 0.5-2.0, and Pennsylvania by 0.1-0.9
There is no way he does worst than Biden but wins Wisconsin.

Biden won WI/MI/PA by 0.65%, 2.8%, and 1.2%

If he loses any support, WI is gone

Plus Buttigieg, being gay, would lose some minority support so there goes AZ and GA. Boom Trump wins a second term
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« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2021, 03:35:43 PM »

Worse than Biden, but I think he would have won Wisconsin by 0.1-0.5, Michigan by 0.5-2.0, and Pennsylvania by 0.1-0.9
There is no way he does worst than Biden but wins Wisconsin.

Biden won WI/MI/PA by 0.65%, 2.8%, and 1.2%

If he loses any support, WI is gone

Plus Buttigieg, being gay, would lose some minority support so there goes AZ and GA. Boom Trump wins a second term
Tammy Baldwin is way more progressive than Buttigieg and won easily in 2018 in WISCONSIN
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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2021, 03:38:53 PM »

Worse than Biden, but I think he would have won Wisconsin by 0.1-0.5, Michigan by 0.5-2.0, and Pennsylvania by 0.1-0.9
There is no way he does worst than Biden but wins Wisconsin.

Biden won WI/MI/PA by 0.65%, 2.8%, and 1.2%

If he loses any support, WI is gone

Plus Buttigieg, being gay, would lose some minority support so there goes AZ and GA. Boom Trump wins a second term
Tammy Baldwin is way more progressive than Buttigieg and won easily in 2018 in WISCONSIN
People are FAR more relax when it comes to lesbians than gay men...
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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2021, 03:39:52 PM »

Worse than Biden, but I think he would have won Wisconsin by 0.1-0.5, Michigan by 0.5-2.0, and Pennsylvania by 0.1-0.9
There is no way he does worst than Biden but wins Wisconsin.

Biden won WI/MI/PA by 0.65%, 2.8%, and 1.2%

If he loses any support, WI is gone

Plus Buttigieg, being gay, would lose some minority support so there goes AZ and GA. Boom Trump wins a second term
Tammy Baldwin is way more progressive than Buttigieg and won easily in 2018 in WISCONSIN

Baldwin has much more substantive beliefs than Pete, and is an underrated master of retail politics (see her work for the state's dairy industry). Also, it was 2018.
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« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2021, 09:31:44 AM »

Worse than Biden, but I think he would have won Wisconsin by 0.1-0.5, Michigan by 0.5-2.0, and Pennsylvania by 0.1-0.9
There is no way he does worst than Biden but wins Wisconsin.

Biden won WI/MI/PA by 0.65%, 2.8%, and 1.2%

If he loses any support, WI is gone

Plus Buttigieg, being gay, would lose some minority support so there goes AZ and GA. Boom Trump wins a second term
Tammy Baldwin is way more progressive than Buttigieg and won easily in 2018 in WISCONSIN

Baldwin has much more substantive beliefs than Pete, and is an underrated master of retail politics (see her work for the state's dairy industry). Also, it was 2018.

I recall reading an article in which Wisconsin farmers who typically vote Republican and are more conservative than Baldwin on balance nevertheless voted for her because they viewed her as effectively representing their interests. The benefits conferred by incumbency and retail politics have not completely dissipated even in this age of increasing polarization. This also helps to explain why Susan Collins won reelection in Maine last year.
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