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Question: I fully understand it is not likely or probable, but is it insane to concede that, while Virginia and Colorado continue to swing firmly Democratic, the 224 Republican nominee is able to do well enough in the suburbs to flip Georgia, Nebraska, NE-02, and t
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Yes, it is possible in 2024, but don't hold your breath.
 
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No, It is NOT possible in 2024
 
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Only if the nominee is...________________ [FILL IN BLANK]
 
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It is 2004 all over again, Virginia, New Mexico, and Colorado would flip before Oregon.
 
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New Mexico will flip before Oregon
 
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Minnesota will flip before any of the "tilt blue" states in this map
 
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New Mexico will flip before any of the "tilt blue" states in this map
 
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Colorado will flip before any of the "tilt blue" states in this map
 
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Virginia will flip before any of the "tilt blue" states in this map
 
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In your dreams; there is a better chance of Dem'24 flipping WV than this insanity
 
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« on: May 26, 2021, 12:02:19 AM »
« edited: May 26, 2021, 12:10:38 AM by Changed Out of Respect »

I would LOVE for someone to show me the [img/].png hyperlink format to post a direct picture of 270towin maps instead of having to link the site.

https://www.270towin.com/maps/yQlv2
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2021, 01:30:25 AM »

In 2020 Oregon voted to the left of Colorado, New Mexico voted to the left of Virginia, and New Hampshire voted to the left of Minnesota. Is there any particular reason to think that will change in 2024? It's possible, but incredibly unlikely.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2021, 04:11:58 AM »

Biden is likely to win OH, NC or IA not shrink the battleground in 2024 he doesn't have a 46.9% Approvals like Trump he has a 59%Approvals
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2021, 07:10:43 AM »

Without flip Oregon, Minnesota, and MAYBE New Mexico and that's probably the Republican ceiling in 2024 provided the current Democratic coalition doesn't collapse and we just see the Democrats running on a bad record and worse campaign.
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2021, 02:19:59 PM »

I don't see a situation where Oregon flips to the Republicans in 2024.

I guess if you flip Oregon it would in fact be a "ceiling" for Republicans in terms of electoral votes but even then I struggle with NM and ME at large.
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2021, 02:41:04 PM »

I don't see a situation where Oregon flips to the Republicans in 2024.

I guess if you flip Oregon it would in fact be a "ceiling" for Republicans in terms of electoral votes but even then I struggle with NM and ME at large.
But even in this "ceiling" scenario, would Dems still be able to hold MN [just barely, hence the light blue shade], as well as a CO and VA [safely, by large margins hence the dark blue color].

I can see struggling with NM, though I don't think ME-AL is off the table. Maine was close in 2016.
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2021, 02:42:03 PM »

Replace OR with MN.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2021, 03:23:34 PM »

I'm a believer in New Mexico potentially being in play for the right Republican, but I'm really having a hard time seeing Oregon.  Minnesota would be a better reach state, as would (despite their trends) Colorado and Virginia.
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2021, 05:08:28 PM »

I don't see a situation where Oregon flips to the Republicans in 2024.

I guess if you flip Oregon it would in fact be a "ceiling" for Republicans in terms of electoral votes but even then I struggle with NM and ME at large.
But even in this "ceiling" scenario, would Dems still be able to hold MN [just barely, hence the light blue shade], as well as a CO and VA [safely, by large margins hence the dark blue color].

I can see struggling with NM, though I don't think ME-AL is off the table. Maine was close in 2016.

Good points about MN and ME. I guess CO and VA would also be part of the GOP's electoral ceiling as well, though my gut tells me those states are veering towards safe D even though that doesn't mean they're actually safe states.
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2021, 05:11:54 PM »

Not possible. Oregon is far too "locked" to flip. It's the only non-southern state that comes close to Minnesota's level of frozen-ness.
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2021, 05:26:50 PM »

Not possible. Oregon is far too "locked" to flip. It's the only non-southern state that comes close to Minnesota's level of frozen-ness.
Solid point. The Republican ceiling in OR is probably 48-49%.
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2021, 09:11:29 PM »

Biden is likely to win OH, NC or IA not shrink the battleground in 2024 he doesn't have a 46.9% Approvals like Trump he has a 59%Approvals
Maybe if Majorie Taylor Greene is the nominee but other than that Iowa is TFG and Ohio is borderline TFG. North Carolina is very possible though no matter the nominee
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2021, 09:38:48 PM »

Oregon and New Mexico can't flip in 2024.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2021, 01:47:11 PM »

I'm a believer in New Mexico potentially being in play for the right Republican, but I'm really having a hard time seeing Oregon.  Minnesota would be a better reach state, as would (despite their trends) Colorado and Virginia.
Even CO and VA are locked out for the same reasons as Oregon/MN. Ditto New Mexico. However, if the state parties can demonstrate they can win a senate seat or governor election, that could be evidence to support their ability to be competitive in the future, but not for 2024. Too soon.
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2021, 03:44:12 PM »


That would be more likely - though I'm curious to know which Republican could carry Minnesota (which eluded even Trump and Reagan), New Mexico (a Democratic state at this point) or Maine (still a blue state despite ME-02's waywardness). Although Maine could flip if Collins is the nominee (a big if). New Hampshire is the only one that may occur, assuming the nominee is someone with home-grown appeal, like Gov. Chris Sununu. I think only Sununu and maybe some other New England Republican (Collins, Scott, Baker) could flip New Hampshire.
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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2021, 09:09:05 PM »


That would be more likely - though I'm curious to know which Republican could carry Minnesota (which eluded even Trump and Reagan), New Mexico (a Democratic state at this point) or Maine (still a blue state despite ME-02's waywardness). Although Maine could flip if Collins is the nominee (a big if). New Hampshire is the only one that may occur, assuming the nominee is someone with home-grown appeal, like Gov. Chris Sununu. I think only Sununu and maybe some other New England Republican (Collins, Scott, Baker) could flip New Hampshire.
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2021, 07:30:37 PM »

Extremely unlikely. Putting aside the fact that the election will not be that one sided, Oregon will not flip before Minnesota.
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2021, 07:59:54 PM »

Zero chance. Oregon voted to my state's left for f***'s sake. I also think that ME-AL, Minnesota, and New Hampshire will remain fools' gold for Republican presidential candidates.
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