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« on: March 16, 2021, 09:15:55 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2021, 10:01:59 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2021, 10:52:06 AM »

Harvey Weinstein?
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2021, 11:36:11 AM »

Easily Bernie
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2021, 04:13:18 PM »

Hillary Clinton
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2021, 04:20:23 PM »

She can lose to any Democrat, or she can beat any Democrat. That's just the reality of our polarized system.
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2021, 04:53:16 PM »

In a fight? Probably Phil Murphy or JB Pritzker.
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2021, 06:20:40 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2021, 07:51:23 PM »

The embalmed body of Senator Byrd.
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2021, 09:54:56 PM »

Biden.

Unlikely, even improbable, but not impossible.
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2021, 10:16:56 PM »

Some dead people, or Jimmy Carter, IDK.

Realistically:
- If in some freak accident the two winning Democratic candidates die right before the Electoral College votes.
- Or a 1912-esque split of the Democratic Party. The third party would need 20% or more of the popular vote. In the best-case scenario, Greene only wins 40% of the popular vote - of course assuming she does some work to tidy up her image.
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2021, 10:24:46 PM »

Biden.

Unlikely, even improbable, but not impossible.
Perhaps if Biden completely physically collapsed (like just barely alive) about a week before Election Day.
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2021, 10:38:54 PM »

Biden.

Unlikely, even improbable, but not impossible.
Perhaps if Biden completely physically collapsed (like just barely alive) about a week before Election Day.
I was thinking about both of the two Democratic candidates dying right before the EC votes because the Democratic electors would then be unable to coordinate and vote for the same ticket. Then the election is thrown to a Republican House, which elects MTG.

If Biden or whoever else is fronting the D ticket dies soon before election day (this must be early enough in the early voting stage or before to prevent the original D ticket from receiving too many early votes), all the Democratic electors will go to his successor. The election has to already be close for the death to repel enough voters from the new D ticket - which isn't possible unless Biden's presidency turns out to be a disaster and he is blamed for it (consider the fact that the country was in a disaster scenario on Nov 3, 2020, and Trump was very close to winning. Regardless of whether Trump worsened the pandemic, he was not blamed by many voters for it or its fallout).
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2021, 10:58:01 PM »

She'd have like a 5% chance of beating Harris in my opinion.
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2021, 06:39:21 PM »

Biden.

Unlikely, even improbable, but not impossible.
Perhaps if Biden completely physically collapsed (like just barely alive) about a week before Election Day.
I was thinking about both of the two Democratic candidates dying right before the EC votes because the Democratic electors would then be unable to coordinate and vote for the same ticket. Then the election is thrown to a Republican House, which elects MTG.

If Biden or whoever else is fronting the D ticket dies soon before election day (this must be early enough in the early voting stage or before to prevent the original D ticket from receiving too many early votes), all the Democratic electors will go to his successor. The election has to already be close for the death to repel enough voters from the new D ticket - which isn't possible unless Biden's presidency turns out to be a disaster and he is blamed for it (consider the fact that the country was in a disaster scenario on Nov 3, 2020, and Trump was very close to winning. Regardless of whether Trump worsened the pandemic, he was not blamed by many voters for it or its fallout).

To put the point in general terms, if the expected winner of a Presidential election unexpectedly dies before or during the electoral voting on the day when the Electoral College members are voting and the electors do not get the news before they have cast their votes; the new Congress might have a difficult task sorting out who won. Presumably if the deceased candidate was a Democrat and there were Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress, they could avoid a contingent election by ruling that the votes for the late candidate were to be counted. Congress is not bound to follow the precedent set by an earlier Congress, when it ruled that electoral votes for the late Horace Greeley were invalid as cast after he died.

Similar logic could be used to elect the late Vice Presidential candidate if both nominees had died unexpectedly in the same time frame. The Presidential succession law could then be used to make the Speaker of the House, Acting President.

A Republican majority of both houses would presumably be happy to go for contingent elections, in the expectation that they would accumulate 26 House delegations and/or 51 Senators.

A divided Congress would presumably not secure a majority in both houses to throw out the state certified electoral  votes, so that would produce the Democratic preferred result.


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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2021, 11:18:16 PM »

Elizabeth Warren
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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2021, 09:40:43 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2021, 01:40:26 AM »

Biden, if Trump endorses her, and Putin decides to get actively involved in rigging the election.
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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2021, 12:06:25 PM »

Maybe Andrew Cuomo?
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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2021, 05:30:24 AM »

Depends on what kind of deck we're talking about. I suspect a blue or red deck would be most effective against most typical Democrats for obvious reasons. But some candidates would actually be weak vs black and strong vs either red (Sanders, Biden) or blue (Warren, most anyone elected for the first time since 2016) depending on what kind of campaign their running and the impulses/instincts of the candidate. White decks these days tend to fair poorly vs Democrats, but if the nominee is someone like say Sen. Menedez somehow, it would be a very useful color to specialize in.

We are talking Magic the Gathering right?
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2021, 11:35:21 AM »

Rashida Tlaib?
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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2021, 12:38:22 PM »

Probably anyone from the squad (besides Ilhan for obvious reasons).
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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2021, 06:27:06 PM »

People are really underestimating how polarized we are. She has a chance of beating almost any Democrat.
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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2021, 01:59:58 AM »

Biden.

Unlikely, even improbable, but not impossible.

You mean Hunter Biden?
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2021, 03:59:28 AM »

I'd say the answer is basically some form of "the most mediocre non-white female". In national American politics, the biggest handicap isn't race/ethnicity, ideology, religion, generational belonging, sexual orientation or a lack of generous personal gravitas (while all still play minor roles) so much as it is gender. By neutralizing this, MTG becomes "Generic R" against a white female ("Generic D"). Add in a racial component and she's got a more favorable playing field than most combinations of a campaign would suggest (though she would still absolutely lose to a charismatic non-white female D).  
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