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CadetCashBoi
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« on: May 25, 2021, 10:20:00 AM »

Recently I've witnessed (and been a party to) some incredibly heated debates around Israel. What's most interesting is that the people involved to a person were all Democrats who probably agreed on 80-90% of other issues yet the volatility of this one was so intense it caused them to hate each other. It got me thinking about how issues like abortion, guns, immigration are all deeply polarizing ones that at one times were not polarized among partisan lines. If in the near future Israel does become more partisan with nearly all pro-Israel sentiment confined to the GOP and Democrats endorsing and even campaigning on Palestinian statehood and an end to US aid to Israel what sort of impact would it have on the electoral map?
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2021, 10:24:07 AM »

Presumably Jewish voters would trend significantly to the right, allowing the GOP to strengthen their position in Florida and make inroads in New Jersey and New York.
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2021, 10:41:05 AM »

Presumably Jewish voters would trend significantly to the right, allowing the GOP to strengthen their position in Florida and make inroads in New Jersey and New York.

Yeah, if the GOP got the same numbers among Jewish voters (or close) as they do among Italians in New Jersey it would definitely become a swing state.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2021, 02:20:01 PM »

Presumably Jewish voters would trend significantly to the right, allowing the GOP to strengthen their position in Florida and make inroads in New Jersey and New York.

Potentially, although it would also probably spur a large segment of Jews to take up explicitly anti-Israeli positions as well. Most non-orthodox Jews really hate the Republican's domestic policy agenda and tub-thumping conservative Christianity and would care more about that than the Democrats becoming explicitly anti-Israeli.
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2021, 03:45:01 PM »

Presumably Jewish voters would trend significantly to the right, allowing the GOP to strengthen their position in Florida and make inroads in New Jersey and New York.

Potentially, although it would also probably spur a large segment of Jews to take up explicitly anti-Israeli positions as well. Most non-orthodox Jews really hate the Republican's domestic policy agenda and tub-thumping conservative Christianity and would care more about that than the Democrats becoming explicitly anti-Israeli.

Yeah, I think a lot of Republicans assume that most Jewish voters really care about Israel and it's what they'll vote on in the same way Democrats make the assumption that most Latinos prioritize immigration a lot more then they really do.
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2021, 10:25:41 AM »

I believe this would cause the GOP to make significant inroads with Jewish voters. Florida would be the only state I feel this would have a major impact in.
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2021, 01:45:28 PM »

Presumably Jewish voters would trend significantly to the right, allowing the GOP to strengthen their position in Florida and make inroads in New Jersey and New York.

Potentially, although it would also probably spur a large segment of Jews to take up explicitly anti-Israeli positions as well. Most non-orthodox Jews really hate the Republican's domestic policy agenda and tub-thumping conservative Christianity and would care more about that than the Democrats becoming explicitly anti-Israeli.

Yeah, I think a lot of Republicans assume that most Jewish voters really care about Israel and it's what they'll vote on in the same way Democrats make the assumption that most Latinos prioritize immigration a lot more then they really do.

So it could backfire on Republicans. The one good thing about Hispanics potentially moving away from Democrats is that it opens the door to doing better in places like Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania even if it means abandoning the Texas project (at least for a while) .


What upside would either party get by either abandoning or doubling down on Israel?
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2021, 07:55:50 AM »

I agree, Israel is likely to become a partisan issue in the near future. This is dangerous for Israel, as the next Democratic president (or perhaps more likely the one after) may have a mandate to drastically reduce military aid and stop backstopping Israeli policy at the UNSC.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2021, 08:02:50 AM »

Presumably Jewish voters would trend significantly to the right, allowing the GOP to strengthen their position in Florida and make inroads in New Jersey and New York.
I am very curious how liberal Jew think about Israel. I suspect they dislike Israel from due to ideology.
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