Australia General Discussion 4.0: It ain’t easy under Albanese

[WMS]

This is perhaps one of the dumbest memes I've seen on this site.

"This arrangement would witness a further dramatic loss of Australian sovereignty, as material dependency on the United States robbed Australia of any freedom or choice in any engagement Australia may deem appropriate," Keating said.

However, former Labor prime minister Kevin Rudd, who is also president of the Asia Society, cautioned the Morrison government against direct criticism of China.

"It is too overt in the way in which it uses its language on these questions," Mr Rudd told 730.

So AUKUS is a dramatic loss of Australian sovereignty, while being afraid to directly criticize China isn’t? Or is the U.S. the only country Australia isn’t allowed to cooperate with?

Grow a brain and realise what the actual reason for it is.

Morrison is leading a government ridden by scandal after scandal despite Murdoch covering his back 24/7 and knows he can't win the next election. The only way he can win is by yelling the words "Labor" and "China" in the same sentence as many times as he can.

That's literally it.

It doesn’t take a brain to consider that both possibilities are accurate: it is both a brilliant strategic move and a Coalition electoral ploy.

At the same time, the positions of the two former Labor PM’s and the Greens seem dodgy. I’m certain opposing the Americans and supporting the Chinese will be the electoral magic needed to finally dislodge the Coalition (long overdue) oh wait no it seems like the opposite of that

Okay, well again, Morrison would not have made this decision if he was behind in the polls. It's pretty blatant this was a purely political decision and nothing else.

Get out of your stupid "MURICA NUMBER ONE!!!" mindset for five seconds and realise that maybe not everyone sees you as saints.

So the highly aggressive foreign policy China has undertaken under Xi plays no role in it? Because that’s been mentioned in the news stories about this.

Hmm an insult and a false dichotomy all in one. How about you get out of your mindset that the US is wrong in everything and that China isn’t? On every objective standard except whatever the hell the far left and far right come up with the US aren’t  saints but we’re much, much, better than China. Ask a Tibetan or an Uighur about that.

[GoTfan]

This is perhaps one of the dumbest memes I've seen on this site.

"This arrangement would witness a further dramatic loss of Australian sovereignty, as material dependency on the United States robbed Australia of any freedom or choice in any engagement Australia may deem appropriate," Keating said.

However, former Labor prime minister Kevin Rudd, who is also president of the Asia Society, cautioned the Morrison government against direct criticism of China.

"It is too overt in the way in which it uses its language on these questions," Mr Rudd told 730.

So AUKUS is a dramatic loss of Australian sovereignty, while being afraid to directly criticize China isn’t? Or is the U.S. the only country Australia isn’t allowed to cooperate with?

Grow a brain and realise what the actual reason for it is.

Morrison is leading a government ridden by scandal after scandal despite Murdoch covering his back 24/7 and knows he can't win the next election. The only way he can win is by yelling the words "Labor" and "China" in the same sentence as many times as he can.

That's literally it.

It doesn’t take a brain to consider that both possibilities are accurate: it is both a brilliant strategic move and a Coalition electoral ploy.

At the same time, the positions of the two former Labor PM’s and the Greens seem dodgy. I’m certain opposing the Americans and supporting the Chinese will be the electoral magic needed to finally dislodge the Coalition (long overdue) oh wait no it seems like the opposite of that

Okay, well again, Morrison would not have made this decision if he was behind in the polls. It's pretty blatant this was a purely political decision and nothing else.

Get out of your stupid "MURICA NUMBER ONE!!!" mindset for five seconds and realise that maybe not everyone sees you as saints.

So the highly aggressive foreign policy China has undertaken under Xi plays no role in it? Because that’s been mentioned in the news stories about this.

Hmm an insult and a false dichotomy all in one. How about you get out of your mindset that the US is wrong in everything and that China isn’t? On every objective standard except whatever the hell the far left and far right come up with the US aren’t  saints but we’re much, much, better than China. Ask a Tibetan or an Uighur about that.

Again, because Morrison can't win an election on anything else. It's an objective fact that the media in this country is steadfastly loyal to the Coalition, and have pretty much been running as much interference as posdible, including screaming "CHINA!!" every time someone brings up a concern.

I find it incredibly disturbing that both the US and China seem eager to start a nuclear war, but I have less faith in the US to avoid it because their foreign policy shifts every 4-8 years.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Tuesday Protests against mandated vaccination of construction workers.

Melbourne West Gate Bridge

https://youtu.be/NfviRZCBCW4

Monday Protests against the same thing outside the headquarters of the CFMEU.

CFMEU left wing nutcase interviewed by right wing nutcase Avi Yemini with 1.5M (?) subscribers.

Right Wing Journo Interviews Left Wing Man Babies

https://youtu.be/Z90GasxpcXg?t=420

Then the Police shot rubber  unless at both sets of Union members.

ABC News summed it up well:

"Victoria's construction industry has been forced to shut for the next two weeks.

With some estimates putting the cost above $2 billion, it's a supremely expensive example of adults being told to do something, not doing it, and then – in shocked disbelief at the injustice of it all – being sent to the naughty corner."


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-21/victorian-construction-ban-avoidable-and-costly/100479272

[GoTfan]

Tuesday Protests against mandated vaccination of construction workers.

Melbourne West Gate Bridge

https://youtu.be/NfviRZCBCW4

Monday Protests against the same thing outside the headquarters of the CFMEU.

CFMEU left wing nutcase interviewed by right wing nutcase Avi Yemini with 1.5M (?) subscribers.

Right Wing Journo Interviews Left Wing Man Babies

https://youtu.be/Z90GasxpcXg?t=420

Then the Police shot rubber  unless at both sets of Union members.

ABC News summed it up well:

"Victoria's construction industry has been forced to shut for the next two weeks.

With some estimates putting the cost above $2 billion, it's a supremely expensive example of adults being told to do something, not doing it, and then – in shocked disbelief at the injustice of it all – being sent to the naughty corner."


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-21/victorian-construction-ban-avoidable-and-costly/100479272

By now it's apparent that a lot of these people are right-wing extremists.

[(no subject)]

I see the Greens want to bring back union closed shops and legalise sympathy strikes. Nope!

[Flyersfan232]

This is perhaps one of the dumbest memes I've seen on this site.

"This arrangement would witness a further dramatic loss of Australian sovereignty, as material dependency on the United States robbed Australia of any freedom or choice in any engagement Australia may deem appropriate," Keating said.

However, former Labor prime minister Kevin Rudd, who is also president of the Asia Society, cautioned the Morrison government against direct criticism of China.

"It is too overt in the way in which it uses its language on these questions," Mr Rudd told 730.

So AUKUS is a dramatic loss of Australian sovereignty, while being afraid to directly criticize China isn’t? Or is the U.S. the only country Australia isn’t allowed to cooperate with?

Grow a brain and realise what the actual reason for it is.

Morrison is leading a government ridden by scandal after scandal despite Murdoch covering his back 24/7 and knows he can't win the next election. The only way he can win is by yelling the words "Labor" and "China" in the same sentence as many times as he can.

That's literally it.

It doesn’t take a brain to consider that both possibilities are accurate: it is both a brilliant strategic move and a Coalition electoral ploy.

At the same time, the positions of the two former Labor PM’s and the Greens seem dodgy. I’m certain opposing the Americans and supporting the Chinese will be the electoral magic needed to finally dislodge the Coalition (long overdue) oh wait no it seems like the opposite of that

Okay, well again, Morrison would not have made this decision if he was behind in the polls. It's pretty blatant this was a purely political decision and nothing else.

Get out of your stupid "MURICA NUMBER ONE!!!" mindset for five seconds and realise that maybe not everyone sees you as saints.

So the highly aggressive foreign policy China has undertaken under Xi plays no role in it? Because that’s been mentioned in the news stories about this.

Hmm an insult and a false dichotomy all in one. How about you get out of your mindset that the US is wrong in everything and that China isn’t? On every objective standard except whatever the hell the far left and far right come up with the US aren’t  saints but we’re much, much, better than China. Ask a Tibetan or an Uighur about that.

Again, because Morrison can't win an election on anything else. It's an objective fact that the media in this country is steadfastly loyal to the Coalition, and have pretty much been running as much interference as posdible, including screaming "CHINA!!" every time someone brings up a concern.

I find it incredibly disturbing that both the US and China seem eager to start a nuclear war, but I have less faith in the US to avoid it because their foreign policy shifts every 4-8 years.

cant win a election? he not down  by that much in the polls

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Australia is already unable to freely have a Beijing policy of its choosing.
Canberra is reliant on China for its livelihood and must tread carefully.

[GoTfan]

Australia is already unable to freely have a Beijing policy of its choosing.
Canberra is reliant on China for its livelihood and must tread carefully.

The current tariffs they've imposed on us are costing us $20 billion AUD, and are particularly hitting farmers and the wine industry hard, and in SA, we rely on the wine industry heavily for tourism from the rest of the world.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Australia is already unable to freely have a Beijing policy of its choosing.
Canberra is reliant on China for its livelihood and must tread carefully.

The current tariffs they've imposed on us are costing us $20 billion AUD, and are particularly hitting farmers and the wine industry hard, and in SA, we rely on the wine industry heavily for tourism from the rest of the world.

Seems unwise to escalate things even further.

[GoTfan]

Australia is already unable to freely have a Beijing policy of its choosing.
Canberra is reliant on China for its livelihood and must tread carefully.

The current tariffs they've imposed on us are costing us $20 billion AUD, and are particularly hitting farmers and the wine industry hard, and in SA, we rely on the wine industry heavily for tourism from the rest of the world.

Seems unwise to escalate things even further.

The China thing started with the release of the Brereton Report, which detailed war crimes committed by Australian forces in Afghanistan. A spokesman for China's Foreign Ministry shared a quite horribly offensive image on Twitter, then doubled down on it. That was the first part. Morriosn tried to get his own back by talking about the origins of COVID-19 and the bat market in China. China then decided to respond by instituting tariffs on a whole heap of goods we ship to them, which has played poorly with farmers who rely in the Chinese market.

However, there is a sizable chunk of the Australian electorate that is extremely xenophobic and specifically, Sinophobic. Morrison, with his scandal-ridden government and the coming of age of a generation that has been heavily engaged in climate activism for the last three years in time for the next election, is leaning into this sinophobia as much as he can.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: he would not have pursued this deal with the US if he did not have a way to gain something politically out of it.

For the record, Morrison's own record on China is as follows:

• Sold the Port of Darwin
• Sold the Port of Newcastle
• Sold our largest baby formula producer
• Sold off Alinta Energy, a company worth AU$4 billion
• Sold our defence secrets
• Sold our largest dairy and beef businesses, accounting for 1.3% of our land

This guy has been systematically selling off as much stuff as he can to China, so don't kid yourself. He ain't some anti-China hawk. He's their biggest useful idiot in the world.

[Continential]

If Jolly Slugg and GoTfan lived anywhere else but Australia, I'd be surprised that they are members of the same party.

[S019]

Senior Labor Party members in Fowler have said that Tu Le was apparently also a parachute candidate: https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/also-a-parachuter-claims-that-candidate-who-missed-out-to-keneally-was-also-a-blow-in-20210923-p58ubj.html

[Meclazine for Israel]

Daniel Andrews

Feeling Lonely Without Gladys

https://youtu.be/cU3dER3YxmU

[S019]

Gladys Berejiklian will resign as NSW Premier and from Parliament following the opening of an ICAC investigation into her.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Gladys Berejiklian has resigned as NSW Premier over the continued ICAC investigation into her relationship with Maguire. Just like Barry O'Farrell she's taken the high road and stepped aside following the same ethical standards she's held her ministers to.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Poor 'ol Gladys. Love that woman.

Left exposed by dubious love interests, a perfect example of a dedicated woman caught up in the sleazy world of NSW politics.

"Federal frontbencher Marise Payne once described Ms Berejiklian as “having a brain the size of a planet”.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-01/nsw-premier-gladys-berejiklian-political-obituay/100507130

First paragraph is wrong in that article. Gladys wasn't the first female Premier.

Notice ICAC never once went after a Labor Premier. Keneally had the "Eddie Affair" and that was 10 times worse.

We've lost a champion public servant.

She will make a fortune in the private sector.

[GoTfan]

Poor 'ol Gladys. Love that woman.

Left exposed by dubious love interests, a perfect example of a dedicated woman caught up in the sleazy world of NSW politics.

"Federal frontbencher Marise Payne once described Ms Berejiklian as “having a brain the size of a planet”.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-01/nsw-premier-gladys-berejiklian-political-obituay/100507130

First paragraph is wrong in that article. Gladys wasn't the first female Premier.

Notice ICAC never once went after a Labor Premier. Keneally had the "Eddie Affair" and that was 10 times worse.

We've lost a champion public servant.

She will make a fortune in the private sector.

And nothing of value was lost!

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Fun fact: the 1999 election was the last in NSW to provide a Premier that would last a full term (Bob Carr). After him, we have Iemma, Rees, Keneally, Barry, Baird and Gladys, none of which never lasted a full mandate of their own.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

https://twitter.com/alexhart7/status/1444540952840785920

[GoTfan]

Bruz has resigned as Deputy NSW Premier and Leader of the NSW Nationals, among the cited reasons being the ongoing defamation suit against Jordan Shanks.

The irony of course is that Shanks is now two for two if Bruz's resignation is also connected to ICAC.

[Conservatopia]

Is Shanks that pipsqueak from friendly jordies?  He's got to be one of the most boneheaded, numbskulled tools on YouTube.

[GoTfan]

Is Shanks that pipsqueak from friendly jordies?  He's got to be one of the most boneheaded, numbskulled tools on YouTube.

And yet, Bruz decided to blame the lawsuit he filed against Shanks for resigning.

He's two from two now.

[morgieb]

Is Shanks that pipsqueak from friendly jordies?  He's got to be one of the most boneheaded, numbskulled tools on YouTube.

Yep.

[Meclazine for Israel]

I have featured Jordan Shanks on this forum before. He is hilarious.

Friendly Jordies

Working at an Aussie Bottle-O

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLcFO7kNviI

America First - Australia Second

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-qP_CIZJus

[Meclazine for Israel]

Barnaby's Back alright:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-10/joyce-says-government-not-joking-over-plans-to-regulate-social/100526516

See you later Facebook. This is not going to end well for Zuckerberg.