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Damocles
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« on: May 17, 2021, 09:52:52 AM »

Fetal personality is a ludicrous position to take. Can you talk to a fetus? Can it eat? Can it work and pay taxes? Does it observe a culture? Can it vote? Can it drive a car? No sane person would say that fetuses have personalities, or by extension, that they are people. The concept of life beginning with insemination is an oversimplified and reductionist view that ignores all of what makes humans, human.

As a corollary, intransigent, state-sponsored denial of family planning tools and contraceptives amounts to undermining bodily integrity. It violates the sovereignty of the person who already exists. Abortion is a necessary tool to abrogate at least some suffering among people who already exist. It should be solemnly carried out in clean, safe, regulated, easily available facilities.

Nobody seeks out an abortion for an abortion’s sake, due to the invasiveness of the procedure, but if they elect to take that option, it should be available.
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Damocles
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2021, 09:59:08 AM »

Fetal personality is a ludicrous position to take. Can you talk to a fetus? Can it eat? Can it work and pay taxes? Does it observe a culture? Can it vote? Can it drive a car?

Most of those things don't apply to newborns, half of them apply to 14 year olds.
It’s almost like that’s what rhetorical questions are!
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Damocles
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2021, 10:07:02 AM »

Assert your reproductive rights and bodily sovereignty with this one weird trick! Reactionaries HATE this!
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Damocles
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2021, 10:23:11 AM »

I don’t see why that would happen. Most women who get abortions don’t have the economic resources to move to a new state on a whim, and those who do could just as easily drive or take a train to the nearest legal abortion state if they really wanted to get one.

And risk getting fired from their jobs for absenteeism in their convalescence and recovery from the procedure?
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Damocles
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2021, 10:47:16 AM »

Most people are able to take a few days off of work.
Have you seen the conditions many workers at the bottom in this country languish in? They get paid what amounts to poverty wages, their direct reports aren’t much better off than they are, they constantly get screamed at and abused in high-stress, uncivilized environments made worse by entitled consumers, they have little to nothing to their name, and oftentimes, they have to indebt themselves to simply get something like this done. They exist in a world of privation and humiliation, and you seem ignorant and dismissive of this reality.
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