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Del Tachi
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« on: May 16, 2021, 02:46:13 PM »
« edited: May 16, 2021, 02:52:50 PM by Del Tachi »

Biden entered the Senate in 1971, a full 50 years before being inaugurated as the 46th president.  We can all acknowledge that was a long time ago, but it still feels somewhat “fresh/current” because they’re still plenty of folks among us who were alive/remember the 1970s, I suspect.   

That will became less and less the case as we get more removed from the current era.  People without any personal/family connection to the 1970s will have a hard time casting Biden as a character both then and now.  To future audiences, the 1970s and 2020s will be too asynchronous to even imagine that the public career of an American president could overlap the two eras. 

To give you a feel for what I mean, consider that someone with Biden’s political experience elected president in 1968 would have entered Congress on the heels of World War One.  That’s how unbelievable Biden’s career will sound to future generations of Americans
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2021, 02:54:30 PM »

Biden entered the Senate in 1973 not 1971.
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2021, 02:57:23 PM »


Does that really change the point I’m trying to make, at all?  lol
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2021, 02:58:42 PM »

It's 48 years, not 50, but that alone still exceeds Jack Kennedy's entire lifespan. Or the lifespans of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama when they first were inaugurated as president.

It'also incredible that Uncle Joe was already older than Franklin Roosevelt or Lyndon Johnson when he became vice president (63, 64 < 66 years) 12 years ago. Especially when you look at footage from 1944 and early 1945, how old and tired FDR looked at that time. Joe Biden actually looks better at 78.

Furthermore, when he came to the senate, LBJ was still alive and is still the most recent Democratic president to die. At the same time, Kamala was just eight years old and Pete Buttigieg not born for another nine years.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2021, 03:18:49 PM »


Yeah, Biden actually wouldn't have met the 30 year age limit for Senators in 1971.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2021, 03:25:26 PM »

I mean it's an incredible feat but there's other people who have similar careers that we understand and grasp even if it's kind of breathtaking. Like a Presidential candidate who won states in the 1948 Presidential election being a Senator during the 2000 Presidential election. Or this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Celler
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2021, 04:21:22 PM »

He certainly holds the record for amount of time in politics before being President (having joined the New Castle County Council 50 years before he became President), but even among Presidents, some were already not far behind: James Buchanan was in the PA state house 43 years before he became President, & William Henry Harrison was in the House 42 years before he became President in addition to having served as Secretary of the Northwest Territory for a year before.
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2021, 04:22:26 PM »

It’s incredible that when Biden was elected, his lifespan was a whole third of American history!
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2021, 04:24:29 PM »

Imagine if Storm Thurmond became president in 1948 and then went back to the senate until his death
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2021, 04:26:27 PM »

Also amazing that he got elected at an age by which a majority of presidents were dead!  Taft lived to be only 72, yet he was the longest-lived president who served between Buchanan and Hoover.
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2021, 04:51:40 PM »

Hmmm... John Quincy Adams would be somewhat similar, though of course he went back into congress after losing the presidency- ambassadorships 1794-1801, Massachusetts State Senate 1802-03, US Senate from 1803-09, more ambassadorships from 1809-1817, Secretary of State 1817-1825, 1824, President 1825-29, then served in the US House from 1831-48.


More generally, the 1970's are still so recognizable because there just hasn't been a major cultural shift in the US since then, at least nothing close to the scale of what happened from WWI-1968.   US political debates have really stagnated since the 1970's compared to the pace of change from the 1860's-1960's.  There haven't been any political changes comparable to the New Deal or Civil Rights Act in recent years, let alone the Civil War.   
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2021, 04:59:23 PM »

Imagine if Storm Thurmond became president in 1948 and then went back to the senate until his death

He would’ve tbh. A really weird fact that puts into perspective just how old that man was is that James F. Byrnes, the man who could very well have been FDR’s Vice President in 1944, was Governor of South Carolina after Thurmond
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2021, 04:59:29 PM »
« Edited: May 16, 2021, 08:08:59 PM by TiltsAreUnderrated »

Longer lifespans and an ageing gerontocracy imply political careers may become longer, on average, in the future. Biden will still seem an aberration, but less of one than you might think, given the context.
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2021, 05:22:39 PM »

Also, Rs underestimate Biden and Harris time and time again. The only reason why 2020 was so close was Trump didn't have the insurrection behind him

2022/2024 will be blue waves and we will keep the Trifecta due to fact Biden has a 59%Approval rating, and Blks, Arabs, younger Whits, Latinos and Females have a fav opinion of Biden 200M Females and Minorities equal more than 100M WC makes befire 2006 it was the opposite. The Fav opinion is due in large part due to 2K cheques, we would have been cut off if Rs kept the Senate Johnson objected to 1200 cheques

Reagan contributed to the Covid and Greenhouse effect because he had Bushes from ENRON deregulate oil industry with carbon emissions.

That's why Ds keep winning
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2021, 05:26:55 PM »

Longer lifespans and an ageing gerontocracy imply political careers may become longer, in average, in the future. Biden will still seem an aberration, but less of one than you might think, given the context.

Me, thinking about "Bernie Sanders, 47th President of the United States, 2029-2037:"

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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2021, 06:21:04 PM »

Biden entered the Senate in 1971, a full 50 years before being inaugurated as the 46th president.  We can all acknowledge that was a long time ago, but it still feels somewhat “fresh/current” because they’re still plenty of folks among us who were alive/remember the 1970s, I suspect.   

That will became less and less the case as we get more removed from the current era.  People without any personal/family connection to the 1970s will have a hard time casting Biden as a character both then and now.  To future audiences, the 1970s and 2020s will be too asynchronous to even imagine that the public career of an American president could overlap the two eras. 

To give you a feel for what I mean, consider that someone with Biden’s political experience elected president in 1968 would have entered Congress on the heels of World War One.  That’s how unbelievable Biden’s career will sound to future generations of Americans


Interesting.

But do you believe he won the 2020 election fairly?
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2021, 07:09:34 PM »

Biden entered the Senate in 1971, a full 50 years before being inaugurated as the 46th president.  We can all acknowledge that was a long time ago, but it still feels somewhat “fresh/current” because they’re still plenty of folks among us who were alive/remember the 1970s, I suspect.   

That will became less and less the case as we get more removed from the current era.  People without any personal/family connection to the 1970s will have a hard time casting Biden as a character both then and now.  To future audiences, the 1970s and 2020s will be too asynchronous to even imagine that the public career of an American president could overlap the two eras. 

To give you a feel for what I mean, consider that someone with Biden’s political experience elected president in 1968 would have entered Congress on the heels of World War One.  That’s how unbelievable Biden’s career will sound to future generations of Americans


Interesting.

But do you believe he won the 2020 election fairly?

Yes, now get off. 
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2021, 07:55:24 PM »

Biden entered the Senate in 1971, a full 50 years before being inaugurated as the 46th president.  We can all acknowledge that was a long time ago, but it still feels somewhat “fresh/current” because they’re still plenty of folks among us who were alive/remember the 1970s, I suspect.   

That will became less and less the case as we get more removed from the current era.  People without any personal/family connection to the 1970s will have a hard time casting Biden as a character both then and now.  To future audiences, the 1970s and 2020s will be too asynchronous to even imagine that the public career of an American president could overlap the two eras. 

To give you a feel for what I mean, consider that someone with Biden’s political experience elected president in 1968 would have entered Congress on the heels of World War One.  That’s how unbelievable Biden’s career will sound to future generations of Americans


Interesting.

But do you believe he won the 2020 election fairly?

Yes, now get off. 


Just making sure.  No productive conversation can be had with any of you people until that very basic and obvious question is answered.
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2021, 08:52:57 PM »

I hadn't thought about it like that, but I guess so.

I guess this will get more common as people are able to stay productive to longer and longer ages.
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2021, 09:07:07 PM »

Biden entered the Senate in 1971, a full 50 years before being inaugurated as the 46th president.  We can all acknowledge that was a long time ago, but it still feels somewhat “fresh/current” because they’re still plenty of folks among us who were alive/remember the 1970s, I suspect.   

That will became less and less the case as we get more removed from the current era.  People without any personal/family connection to the 1970s will have a hard time casting Biden as a character both then and now.  To future audiences, the 1970s and 2020s will be too asynchronous to even imagine that the public career of an American president could overlap the two eras. 

To give you a feel for what I mean, consider that someone with Biden’s political experience elected president in 1968 would have entered Congress on the heels of World War One.  That’s how unbelievable Biden’s career will sound to future generations of Americans


Interesting.

But do you believe he won the 2020 election fairly?

Yes, now get off. 


Just making sure.  No productive conversation can be had with any of you people until that very basic and obvious question is answered.

I'm far from DT's biggest fan to say the least, but he has never been a 2020 election conspiracist. The only Atlasians who have brought question to the validity of the results are Fuzzy and probably Woodbury.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2021, 09:24:30 PM »

Trump, Cruz and Hawley when the Commission is formed are gonna be held accountable for their actions for Insurrection, I can't wait for Cruz to be supeonened by the Commission, he is the main antagonist for the Tea party calling everyone Socialisic that are Ds

Cruz did give tours of the Insurrectionists because he has done rallies with Tea partiers, I hope he gets Prosecuted
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2021, 09:30:44 PM »

More generally, the 1970's are still so recognizable because there just hasn't been a major cultural shift in the US since then, at least nothing close to the scale of what happened from WWI-1968.   US political debates have really stagnated since the 1970's compared to the pace of change from the 1860's-1960's.  There haven't been any political changes comparable to the New Deal or Civil Rights Act in recent years, let alone the Civil War.   

People will be saying the same thing fifty years from now. Change doesn't feel so dramatic when you're living in it.

Same-sex marriage hasn't even been legal six years in this country yet, but doesn't it just feel like the most normal thing in the world now?
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2021, 09:40:45 PM »

More generally, the 1970's are still so recognizable because there just hasn't been a major cultural shift in the US since then, at least nothing close to the scale of what happened from WWI-1968.   US political debates have really stagnated since the 1970's compared to the pace of change from the 1860's-1960's.  There haven't been any political changes comparable to the New Deal or Civil Rights Act in recent years, let alone the Civil War.   

People will be saying the same thing fifty years from now. Change doesn't feel so dramatic when you're living in it.

Same-sex marriage hasn't even been legal six years in this country yet, but doesn't it just feel like the most normal thing in the world now?

I was expecting someone to pull out the “hurr durr nothing has changed since the 1970s” card

Never mind the immense social and economic change brought about by the Digital Revolution, personal computing and the Internet
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2021, 09:46:02 PM »

NPR first aired in 1971 to commemorate, they put together a list of their 50 favorite songs of that year

https://www.npr.org/sections/world-cafe/2021/05/03/992097225/nprs-50-favorite-songs-of-1971

highly recommended.

Also, St. Vincent's new album is basically set in 1971--also recommended
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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2021, 09:55:37 PM »

Never mind the immense social and economic change brought about by the Digital Revolution, personal computing and the Internet

There's another one. The @POTUS account wasn't created until 2015. Just two years later, we had a Twitter-addicted President.

The 2010s were hugely consequential, and so far I see no reason why the 2020s (at least, the early part of the decade) won't be equally so.
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