Is Israel or Palestine in the right?

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Arab citizens of Israel have full rights. But most Arabs choose to not take it and thus live with fewer rights.

Arab armies have historically sucked, and gotten their ass kicked every time they tried to invade Israel. So, the new strategy is swinging international public opinion against Israel.

I'm not super pro-Israel, but as a Jew the whole 'arabs will treat Jews nicely when they get Israel back' is bullsh**t. Israel may have a ton of issues, but the only other option (takeover by Arabs) means that one supports a second holocaust.

Two state solution is the only solution.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

In order to prevail, they either have to assert that there is such a thing as a general "right to return" or that Jews have property rights that Arabs don't. I can't see either assertion as being in Israel's long term interest. Acknowledging a right of return would seriously impact the Jewish nature of Israel. Conversely, making explicit the concept of Arabs having fewer rights in Israel makes more likely the possibility of Israel losing what little international support it has and puts in serious jeopardy its recent efforts to normalize relations with the Arab states.

You are correct up until the last sentence.

Israel actually needs little international support and what it does have is pretty solid.

Whilst ever Palestinian military activists carry on like the Benny Hill Show, israel will obtain legitimacy to defend itself more vigorously and make their expanded real estate goals a reality.

Bethlehem, here we come.

If you really think Israel would be anything like it currently is without U.S. military technical assistance, you're crazy.  I'll admit that currently support for Israel is fairly solid in the U.S. However, what had once been a solidly bipartisan position has become ever more partisan.

Yes, so long as it's just Israel versus the Palestinians, Israel doesn't have much to worry about. But the idea that the Arabs will permanently remain disunited and militarily inferior to Israel is ludicrous and not supported by history. Given current Israeli policies, it's basically a question of when, not if, the State of Israel goes the way of the Crusader States a millennium ago. Israel is likely to last until at least the 22nd century.

Militarily, you are right. But Israel has one trick up its sleeve.

You know, nukes. As long as the Arab states don't have them, Israel is good. And, Israel was militarily outmatched in the 1948 war, but won. Arab armies and politicians are plagued with corruption, and that won't change anytime soon.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

In order to prevail, they either have to assert that there is such a thing as a general "right to return" or that Jews have property rights that Arabs don't. I can't see either assertion as being in Israel's long term interest. Acknowledging a right of return would seriously impact the Jewish nature of Israel. Conversely, making explicit the concept of Arabs having fewer rights in Israel makes more likely the possibility of Israel losing what little international support it has and puts in serious jeopardy its recent efforts to normalize relations with the Arab states.

You are correct up until the last sentence.

Israel actually needs little international support and what it does have is pretty solid.

Whilst ever Palestinian military activists carry on like the Benny Hill Show, israel will obtain legitimacy to defend itself more vigorously and make their expanded real estate goals a reality.

Bethlehem, here we come.

If you really think Israel would be anything like it currently is without U.S. military technical assistance, you're crazy.  I'll admit that currently support for Israel is fairly solid in the U.S. However, what had once been a solidly bipartisan position has become ever more partisan.

Yes, so long as it's just Israel versus the Palestinians, Israel doesn't have much to worry about. But the idea that the Arabs will permanently remain disunited and militarily inferior to Israel is ludicrous and not supported by history. Given current Israeli policies, it's basically a question of when, not if, the State of Israel goes the way of the Crusader States a millennium ago. Israel is likely to last until at least the 22nd century.

Militarily, you are right. But Israel has one trick up its sleeve.

You know, nukes. As long as the Arab states don't have them, Israel is good. And, Israel was militarily outmatched in the 1948 war, but won. Arab armies and politicians are plagued with corruption, and that won't change anytime soon.

Just because it won't change soon doesn't mean it won't change.  The idea that the Arabs won't ever gain nukes is ludicrous, and Israel is far more vulnerable to any potential nuclear exchange.

What did we do to Iraq when we thought they had WMD's? Also, mutually assured distruction.