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President Johnson
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« on: May 10, 2021, 04:28:59 AM »

The problem is that Republican politicians put their jobs over the well being of the country. If they were honest, they would turn on Trump collectively. They have failed to do so after he bribed the Ukrainian president and even after a violent insurrection on the Capitol.

Another reason Trump and the madness in general receive so much support is because of two main factors: media landscape and how voting is being done. Back in 1973, there were just a handful of TV channels all reporting basically the same and a bunch of trusted newspapers like the Times and Post. Today, there's Fox News propaganda, right-wing radio talk and countless social media channels. At the same time, the large number of safe districts and states remove incentives to work across the aisle. Most members in congress don't have to fear losing to the other side, but to a primary challenger, what causes them to go to the extremes and not the center.

In 1974, when Nixon's guilt was undeniable, Republicans turned on him. Today, the same didn't happen for Trump because (a) Republican officeholders, save a few exceptions, aren't honest and (b) a lot of Republican voters are fed with missinformation and conspiracies.
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President Johnson
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2021, 02:26:29 PM »

Ugh, yes they are less honorable. 98% of them aren't honorable at all. Not saying everything was fine in the 1970s, for sure it wasn't, but Trump and his clownish cult followers are antidemocratic and corrupt scum. The GOP ultimately abandoned Nixon during Watergate for a break-in and its cover-up. That was far less of a crime than everything Mr. Trump has done. Instead, they enabled him, praised him and turned a blind eye to his many power abuses such as turning the Justice Dept. into his personal lawfirm. He didn't have to face consequences for that or January 6. McCarthy is now pushing anyone remotely critical of their orange buffoon out while MTG is getting a free ride. Anyone continuing to enable all the nonsense should have no place in public office.

And Cheney and alike don't need to appear as the big defenders of the rule of law now. She and many others who claim to be outraged, including ex-officers like Boehner, rode the tiger when it was politically expedient instead of telling their voters the truth than Trumpism and the Tea Party are crap and that Hannity and Limbaugh are lying to them. All in all, the Trump era has revealed to true colors of GOP politicans we previously could have seen as mere political opponents and not enemies of American institutions and democracy.


Yes , but why did they abandon Nixon back in 1974 . It was cause the American people completely turned on him and it was clear if they stuck by him republicans would get destroyed by their largest margin they have been destroyed since 1936.

Today it’s the exact opposite and politicians who actually care about things such as principle and honor are the ones who get punished and voted out . So is it any surprise republicans politicians are like this .

Politicians always were about winning, it’s just that the voters expected them to care about principles then while they don’t today .


Yes, but these get replaced by less honorable people who only care about keeping their mandate rather than doing the right thing. The vast majority of Republicans with integrity and reasonable political positions who understood there needs to be compromise were thrown out since 1994 and particularly after 2010. Someone like Richard Lugar for example, or now even Brad Raffensberger, who became a target of Trump cultists for simply refusing to overturn an election he didn't have the authority to overturn. Many others refuse to do the right thing because as long as repeating Trump's lies or starting endless investigations on opponents like Benghazi that produce nothing but hot air keeps them in office, they're fine to get along with it. And the worst aspect of all that is that these people know better. Lindsey Graham or Kevin McCarthy know that the 2020 election wasn't stolen. They can't be that stupid. However, they repeat Trump's big lie anyway because doing the opposite would cause the cultists to come after them (heck, Graham wouldn't even have to bother since he was just reelected for a six year term).

Of course Nixon losing support over scandals and Trump not is a result of the media landscape today. But the solution can't be to go along with it, but for Republicans of honor to stand up it. Unfortunately, the John McCains of the world have almost extinct in the modern Republican Party.
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