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« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2021, 05:19:52 PM »

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also, probably yes.
Apparently, you can shut down travel to a brown country because of risks from an invisible threat, but you can't do it because of risks from visible ones...

I support travel bans in both situations because the reasons were valid for each of them but okay ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Lol, the Trump travel bans had a valid reason? Trump himself literally said it was to discriminate against Muslims, but whatever helps you sleep at night. Anyways, yes the situation in India is out of control and there should be a travel ban.
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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2021, 05:33:46 PM »
« Edited: May 02, 2021, 11:47:50 AM by YE »

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also, probably yes.
Apparently, you can shut down travel to a brown country because of risks from an invisible threat, but you can't do it because of risks from visible ones...

I support travel bans in both situations because the reasons were valid for each of them but okay ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Lol, the Trump travel bans had a valid reason? Trump himself literally said it was to discriminate against Muslims, but whatever helps you sleep at night. Anyways, yes the situation in India is out of control and there should be a travel ban.

There was no "Muslim" travel ban. Muslims still had the ability to enter the US. It was applied to specific countries, in fact the same 7 countries singled out in an anti-terrorism law that Obama signed.
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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2021, 03:47:37 AM »

It's ironic that through this entire crisis, the US under Trump had one of the laxest border controls in the world. Most other countries banned all foreigners, and those allowed entry were subject to mandatory quarantine at their expense.

It's such an indictment of Trump's total incompetence as the leader of his own movement that he never thought to use COVID as a "told you so" about his travel bans. Imagine if in January he had shut down all travel to and from China and then later the Euro "socialist" countries. Liberals would have thrown a fit only for the rest of the world to then get ravaged by COVID while the US had only a couple cases that fell though the cracks that Trump could vilify as rule breakers and Chinese spies. It would have been such a victory for America First and right-wing politics generally with Trump practically guaranteed a second term. But Trump was just too self-absorbed and uninterested to even care.

When Covid first started showing up in the news, right-wing conspiracy sites like 4Chan were some of the first to actually take it seriously. They examined the infection rate, criticized China for lying about the danger of the virus, and spouted schizophrenic rumors about how the virus was "population control" by the elites. Then as soon as world governments started taking it seriously, their narrative immediately flipped, and they began calling Covid a "hoax" designed to control the masses. These people don't have the attention spans necessary to coherently advocate for their deluded worldviews.

I can't speak for everyone, but I've been following this before it had a name and was confined to Hubei province in China. This was even before China built the massive hospital in Wuhan within 10 days. At the time, I never believed it would've hit here, at least at that rate. This virus made me nervous when it was still in China. By the time it hit Europe though, we should've started travel bans. Italy and Spain were disasters in March of last year.

President Biden is right to restrict travel, but it shouldn't wait that long. If it's an emergency, close it down immediately.
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« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2021, 01:15:41 PM »

Aren't half of Americans already vaccinated and it's easy to get a vaccine anyway. Overhere in Canada the vaccine was slow but has been picking up steam, it stills a while before there is some sort of herd immunity

A third of Americans are vaccinated and India is a breeding ground for new vaccine-resistant strains given how rapidly the total number of cases are growing.
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« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2021, 01:05:04 AM »

It's ironic that through this entire crisis, the US under Trump had one of the laxest border controls in the world. Most other countries banned all foreigners, and those allowed entry were subject to mandatory quarantine at their expense.

It's such an indictment of Trump's total incompetence as the leader of his own movement that he never thought to use COVID as a "told you so" about his travel bans. Imagine if in January he had shut down all travel to and from China and then later the Euro "socialist" countries. Liberals would have thrown a fit only for the rest of the world to then get ravaged by COVID while the US had only a couple cases that fell though the cracks that Trump could vilify as rule breakers and Chinese spies. It would have been such a victory for America First and right-wing politics generally with Trump practically guaranteed a second term. But Trump was just too self-absorbed and uninterested to even care.

When Covid first started showing up in the news, right-wing conspiracy sites like 4Chan were some of the first to actually take it seriously. They examined the infection rate, criticized China for lying about the danger of the virus, and spouted schizophrenic rumors about how the virus was "population control" by the elites. Then as soon as world governments started taking it seriously, their narrative immediately flipped, and they began calling Covid a "hoax" designed to control the masses. These people don't have the attention spans necessary to coherently advocate for their deluded worldviews.

People forget this.
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« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2021, 12:32:25 PM »

Aren't half of Americans already vaccinated and it's easy to get a vaccine anyway. Overhere in Canada the vaccine was slow but has been picking up steam, it stills a while before there is some sort of herd immunity

A third of Americans are vaccinated and India is a breeding ground for new vaccine-resistant strains given how rapidly the total number of cases are growing.

Very few people in India are vaccinated however the first responders are and they seem to be holding up well against the current outbreak so it does seem that the vaccine works against Indian variants.  However, it also seems that previous exposure to COVID is not providing any benefit vs the current outbreak.
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« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2021, 12:35:53 PM »

Dumb In-Person G7 Event in Chaos After Indian Diplomats Test Positive for COVID

Really, I just like the headline and  I don't think any travel ban will stop the variants from getting around (they'll just slow them down), but yeah, it was kind of dumb.
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