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« on: April 28, 2021, 10:55:29 AM »

Some say that Ohio has been ancestrally Republican; Ohio Democrat Jerry Springer never ran for office because of that; Ted Strickland is the only Ohio Democratic governor as of recently; Sherrod Brown has done well in 2006, 2012, and 2018, but it looks like 2024 he may be DOA.......what happened to Ohio?

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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2021, 11:26:42 AM »

Whoa, a bronz thread that isn’t about race or police?
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2021, 01:36:43 PM »

The Democrats on NAFTA, and that Barack Obama pushed hard for the TPP during the general election period of 2016 while knowing it was an albatross around the neck of presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, is why Ohio is rejecting the Democrats at least for U.S. President. On that level, the former bellwether state has realigned to the Republicans. The voters in that state know the Democrats, despite any of their lip service, are not to be trusted. There is a good chance this current term will be the last for the state’s senior U.S. senator, Sherrod Brown, who in 2024 would have to outperform his party’s presidential/vice-presidential ticket by about +10 points to eke out re-election to a fourth term as a Democrat in a Trending Republican state.
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2021, 03:35:01 PM »

The key region to Republicans' recent success in OH is the "Rust Belt" parts (i.e. northeastern and north-central OH). Trump's protectionism helped win over this region, and both Hillary and Biden were proponents of free trade (which didn't do them any favors here). In 2018, Sherrod Brown's campaign was centered on protecting workers' rights, which allowed him to hold on to more than enough support in this region to win statewide for the third consecutive time.
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2021, 03:43:18 PM »

The key region to Republicans' recent success in OH is the "Rust Belt" parts (i.e. northeastern and north-central OH). Trump's protectionism helped win over this region, and both Hillary and Biden were proponents of free trade (which didn't do them any favors here). In 2018, Sherrod Brown's campaign was centered on protecting workers' rights, which allowed him to hold on to more than enough support in this region to win statewide for the third consecutive time.
To expand on this, Trump's entire presidency was spent expanding his base, which makes sense he managed to even flip Mahoning in 2020. A good amount of those voters Trump won over in '16 are in the R column for good, Brown's 2018 numbers in Ohio's industrial strongholds down into Appalachia were a far cry from what he garnered in 2012. If he pulls it off in '24 (too far out to tell how that one goes) he'll probably be the last D to win there for a good bit.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2021, 03:59:38 PM »

Dying cities other than Columbus, with the rural areas remaining as rural as culturally-similar areas in the Great Plains. Ohio's urban areas are about as D as ever, but they are also much smaller. Ohio has been losing old-fashioned manufacturing jobs while attracting little-to-no high-tech industries.

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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2021, 01:33:32 PM »

Dying cities other than Columbus, with the rural areas remaining as rural as culturally-similar areas in the Great Plains. Ohio's urban areas are about as D as ever, but they are also much smaller. Ohio has been losing old-fashioned manufacturing jobs while attracting little-to-no high-tech industries.



I mean, I do get all kinds of cold calls from people from Chennai all of the time wanting me to interview for W2 positions in places like Key Bank in places in Cleveland or Cincinnati. However, they generally want people who have more experience on niche tech stacks, older languages, and things of that nature. The nature of the jobs that are there generally last only about a year and sometimes not even that. In my first job in Kansas City (which is a lot like Cleveland in some ways), they would fill their old corporate doomsday shelter with hundreds of people from places like India or Ukraine and then announce just 3 months later that they want more jobs for local people. It was called their "Near Shore Delivery Center".

These "Near Shore Delivery Centers" in general don't really attract the type of people you think they would.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2021, 03:04:09 PM »
« Edited: April 30, 2021, 06:19:08 PM by MR. KAYNE WEST »

This is a Bronz thread and it's always been an R Statehood, it only has had 1 D Senator and Gov in 20 yrs Strickland and Brown but Ryan is a blue collar D that can win over WC voters that Brown and Strickland won over, watch the Den race in 2022 not the Gov race according to polls it's a Tossup and can split votes like it did in 2018

Yeah Clinton and Obama won it, but the Rs dominate the state Legislature, they didn't win any new D state Legislature seats in OH Clinton or Obama
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2021, 07:42:22 PM »

Because outside of Columbus, pretty much all trends favor Republicans. Democrats lost a ton of support in the rural/exurban areas, as well as places like Youngstown, and places like Cleveland are bleeding population, so the growth in Columbus isn’t anywhere near enough to make up for it.
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2021, 10:02:11 PM »

Because outside of Columbus, pretty much all trends favor Republicans. Democrats lost a ton of support in the rural/exurban areas, as well as places like Youngstown, and places like Cleveland are bleeding population, so the growth in Columbus isn’t anywhere near enough to make up for it.

Exactly this.
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2021, 06:44:26 AM »

Because outside of Columbus, pretty much all trends favor Republicans. Democrats lost a ton of support in the rural/exurban areas, as well as places like Youngstown, and places like Cleveland are bleeding population, so the growth in Columbus isn’t anywhere near enough to make up for it.
Appalachia is also in Ohio as well.
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2021, 04:54:03 PM »

There is a possibility that Ohio is a swing state again in like 20-30 years, but the counties around Cincinnati and Columbus need to continue to move leftward.
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