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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2021, 01:13:47 AM »
« edited: April 30, 2021, 01:22:14 AM by MR. KAYNE WEST »

The Rs don't believe in the polls, Twitter has fed into this DeSantis hype due to him being good looking, Biden and Harris aren't the best Prez, they are mediocre due to the still existance of Covid

But, it beats oil drilling and tax cuts for the rich, Biden and Harris even if they lose Congress in midterms can get to 278 or 291

What Rs don't understand DeSantis automatically loses 15 Percent of Afro Americand like he will in Reelection, Afro Americans despises DeSANTIS, that's why especially in MI, DTW and Chicago and Philly suburbs he loses substantially like Trump did do to high concentration of Afro Americans

Afro Americans despises DeSANTIS like they did Reagan no two politicians have the biggest dislike by Afro Americans but blacks didn't vote during Reagan
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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2021, 01:22:44 AM »



Exactly. 2020 Polls said Biden was going to win by Reagan 1980-levels.

Uhh... I see something in common, although there are some differences:

   Ronald Reagan               43,903,230   50.75%   489   90.9%
   James Carter               35,480,115   41.01%   49   9.1%
   John Anderson                     5,719,850   6.61%   0   0.0%



    Joseph R. Biden, Jr.      81,286,358   51.26%   306   56.9%
   Donald J. Trump                 74,225,839   46.80%   232   43.1%

About 41 million American voters had some problem with a Reagan Presidency, and I would say that the 5.7 million voters for Anderson had a problem with both Carter and Reagan. Add the 41.01% of the vote for Carter and the 6.61% of the vote for Anderson and the Reagan landslide of 1980 isn't quite so impressive as the electoral vote suggests.

OK, as usual the Democratic nominee ran up huge percentages of the vote in a comparatively small number of states in 2020 -- which is what Democrats usually do, and which explains how Donald Trump won against Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Ronald Reagan won "only" 255 electoral votes in which he got an absolute majority of the overall vote. OK, he did win fair and square. Reagan won 24 states (all of those having 8 or fewer electoral votes) and ten by 10% or more over Carter. Remove the Anderson votes from the Reagan margin over Carter and the number becomes a less-impressive 27 states won by 10% or more.  Heck, Obama won 20 states by 10% or more in essentially a binary election in 2008.

I could make the case that the differences between 1980 and 2020 were

(1) that Biden ran up the score in the percentage totals in bigger states than did Reagan.
(2) the electorate was more ideologically divided in 2020 than in 1980
(3) there was no third-party nominee taking votes away from the eventual loser in 2020 as there was in 1980, and
(4) the challenger was much closer to losing in 2020 than in 1980.

An even shift of 0.63% in 2020 would have resulted in a 269-269 split in the Electoral College which would have thrown the election to the House of Representatives which Trump would have won. It would have taken about a 5% even swing from Reagan to Carter to allow Carter to win in 1980 had the Anderson vote remained as it was.

We were only an even shift of 0.63% away from the risk of the re-election of the most corrupt, despotic, and devious President ever.


Both had a challenger facing a troubled incumbent, and the challenger won.   

Carter according to exits would have gotten 55% of the Anderson vote to 45% for Reagan so while he does a little better, Reagan still gets over 400 EV
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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2021, 04:16:08 AM »
« Edited: April 30, 2021, 04:41:08 AM by MR. KAYNE WEST »

Also, I will say it again, in a Pandemic where we still have severe droughts on the WC, where Oil drilling in the Gulf pulls Hurricanes near the Gulf, and Old School knows about our droughts on the Pacific, why would females and Minorities go back to had old days of R Leadership and oil drilling and tax cuts for the rich

If the R users on this forum didn't get their 2K, it would of been due to an R Senate, Johnson and Mcconnell blocked ,2 K checks whole Rs had Majority, it would have needed ,60 votes not Majority Reconciliation if Rs kept Senate, WARNOCK and Ossoff won on 2K checks

This is why DeSantis is getting crushed
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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2021, 09:41:27 AM »

It's early, way too many undecideds, DeSantis hasn't that much name recognition and it's a nationwide poll while the election gets decided in battleground states. Said poll means absolutely nothing.

Why are you a DeSantis apologist

Cuz that'll trigger a response from you Tongue The 291 freiwall isn't inevitable.
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« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2021, 12:15:30 AM »

Negative ad for a Democrat against de Santis:

My dad couldn't put up with the lockdown in Michigan. He wanted some fun in the sun. So he went to Florida, where Governor De Santis had no lockdown. He had some fun in the sun, but he came back with COVID-19 and spent two months on a respirator before dying. 

He should have stayed in Michigan.

(Changing the state or the gender will work, too).
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« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2021, 11:08:56 AM »
« Edited: May 03, 2021, 11:13:13 AM by Roll Roons »

Negative ad for a Democrat against de Santis:

My dad couldn't put up with the lockdown in Michigan. He wanted some fun in the sun. So he went to Florida, where Governor De Santis had no lockdown. He had some fun in the sun, but he came back with COVID-19 and spent two months on a respirator before dying. 

He should have stayed in Michigan.

(Changing the state or the gender will work, too).

Florida, despite a large population of people who are by far the most vulnerable, is 28th in per capita deaths. Guess what number 1 and 2 are? Oh yeah, deep blue New Jersey and New York with their liberal Democrat governors who forced COVID-positive patients into nursing homes.

Seriously, quit spreading this BS. DeSantis did great on COVID, and I'm sorry you can't accept that. DeSantis derangement syndrome is a thing.
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« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2021, 12:39:00 PM »

Negative ad for a Democrat against de Santis:

My dad couldn't put up with the lockdown in Michigan. He wanted some fun in the sun. So he went to Florida, where Governor De Santis had no lockdown. He had some fun in the sun, but he came back with COVID-19 and spent two months on a respirator before dying. 

He should have stayed in Michigan.

(Changing the state or the gender will work, too).

Florida, despite a large population of people who are by far the most vulnerable, is 28th in per capita deaths. Guess what number 1 and 2 are? Oh yeah, deep blue New Jersey and New York with their liberal Democrat governors who forced COVID-positive patients into nursing homes.

Seriously, quit spreading this BS. DeSantis did great on COVID, and I'm sorry you can't accept that. DeSantis derangement syndrome is a thing.

Florida has old white people, but the rest of the population skews young. COVID-19 tends to kill older adults.  I am not so sure on what it does to non-old adults. It does organ damage and causes diabetes.

It's the cities that have the great international airports that got hit hard and early... San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, Miami.  For Greater New York, COVID-19 rode jetliners back from Europe, hopped the subway, and got everywhere in NYC Subway workers got hit hard and early. In Greater Detroit it was the police.

COVID-19 will have a different story where it kills. It could be overcrowded food-packing places in the Midwest. 
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« Reply #32 on: May 04, 2021, 04:59:10 PM »

It's the cities that have the great international airports that got hit hard and early... San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, Miami.  For Greater New York, COVID-19 rode jetliners back from Europe, hopped the subway, and got everywhere in NYC Subway workers got hit hard and early. In Greater Detroit it was the police.

Air hub theory is back!  (Albeit in a new context.) I think we can all recognize now that COVID 19 is in position to run for Vice President in 2024.
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« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2021, 11:49:56 PM »

We thought that respiratory diseases were Third World issues. Because they don't strike the upper classes even of poor countries except as pneumonia when something else (cancer, organ failure, and brain deterioration) is already killing someone, most people in the First World think that those diseases are licked once and for all. Then comes COVID-19, which found its way into one category of elite people in all parts of the world ("frequent flyers" who tend to skew old, mobile, and active) who can become the unwitting "Typhoid Mary" types in our time.

We know otherwise now. COVID-19 evolved perfectly. Like the plagues that traveled with the fast-moving Mongol horsemen who reached as far east as Korea and as far west as Poland, and as far south as India, COVID-19 exploited the fastest travel of the time.

Some places met the Crisis better than others. Some, like New York City, got hit before the public figures could do anything effective.

From the air terminal the plague spread through subways and other mass transit... and in Greater Detroit, the police. Religious gatherings had viral congregants infecting human participants. Go to Lourdes in expectation of a miracle, and you get a disaster. Go to Qom (the "Shiite Rome", hear clergy denounce the Great Satan (the USA) and the Lesser Satan (Israel), and get a lethal virus -- the more insidious, microscopic Satan.
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« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2021, 12:27:59 AM »

As long as there is Covid Biden has a 51/49 Approvals, this poll is definitely inflated like the QU poll showed Biden plus 14 against Trump in a 51/49 Covid Approvals Biden wins 279/291 EC votes only
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« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2021, 11:44:12 AM »

Other figures in this poll:

Would you like to see Biden run for president in 2024?

No 48%
Yes 36%
Unsure 16%

Would you like to see Trump run for president in 2024?

No 59%
Yes 32%
Unsure 9%
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« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2021, 06:17:49 PM »

I wish...

Even with minimal DeSantis name recognition, Biden will not win re-election by more than 5 points nationally, at best. And even then the Electoral College will still be far closer than it should be with that margin.
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« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2021, 06:49:29 PM »

Other figures in this poll:

Would you like to see Biden run for president in 2024?

No 48%
Yes 36%
Unsure 16%

Would you like to see Trump run for president in 2024?

No 59%
Yes 32%
Unsure 9%

That Biden number is very interesting.
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« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2021, 06:54:41 PM »

DeSantis is not well known yet......call me back in May 2024, and if DeSantis is the GOP nominee, this race will tighten because DeSantis vs. Biden is a contrasting photo op...an older president versus a young governor of a red-leaning state
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« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2021, 07:01:07 PM »

DeSantis is not well known yet......call me back in May 2024, and if DeSantis is the GOP nominee, this race will tighten because DeSantis vs. Biden is a contrasting photo op...an older president versus a young governor of a red-leaning state

DeDantis has to win Blks voters inI, PA and WI and he might not win reelection a six pt lead is nothing with 500 days left in Election season against Fried or Crist
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