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Author Topic: Should the Labor Party disband?  (Read 3577 times)
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« on: April 27, 2021, 09:15:58 AM »
« edited: April 27, 2021, 10:12:11 AM by Ishan »

You never hear talk IRL of parties dissolving if they win elections.
IRL isn't a game.
No, Labor's dominance is nothing compared to the JCP dominance
Here are all elections that the JCP won since the start of the JCP vs. RPP party system:

June 09: Lief/BK 50%
October 09: Lief/BK 55%
June 10: Purple State/Marokai Blue1 62%
October 10: Fritz/Kalwejt 53%
June 11: Polnut/BK 66%
October 11: Snowguy/BK 51%

Average win percentage: 56.1%
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1. Purple State was aligned with the JCP
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Here are all elections that Labor won since Labor Day 2018:

October 18: WB/MB 51%
June 19: Adam Griffin/Jimmy 52%
October 19: Adam Griffin/Pericles 66%
February 20: Pericles/Peanut 62%
June 20: Pericles/Sestak 66%
October 20: MB/Ted Bessell 56%
February 21: Windjammer/Sestak 51%

Average win percentage: 57.7%
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2021, 04:44:16 PM »

Just as a hypothetical, what do people think would happen if Labor dissolved?



Probably it gets used as an excuse to split up the party into left and center-left entities. Peace Probably gets used as the left outlet, grows in size, and starts leading itself again, while a PUP-like party takes the remaining Laborites. Eventually one starts clearly dominating the other in game, at which point they mostly merge.

Long term: No change, except maybe single payer finally passes if Peace brings this struggle.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2021, 05:24:45 PM »

Wulfric there’s no divide between the “center-left” and “left” on the left in Atlasia and for someone who spent 2.5 years in the main party on the left, you should know this. Stop thinking this game like irl.

While I do think somewhat of a divide already exists on social issues, what I am saying is that dissolution would create the impetus for something like the above to occur, especially since there would probably be some sort of ban on immediately reforming the exact same parties if this dissolution were to actually occur.

you don't know what you are talking about.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2021, 08:31:02 PM »

Seriously, if the opposition party isn't winning, perhaps lurch to the left instead of doubling down on conservatism?

Yeah this is the only real answer, I've long said if the right wants to win, they need to move left, a party that's neoliberal on economics, and comes out in favor of moderately pro choice and pro gun control positions, might make some inroads among moderates on the left.
What moderates could they flip, and why isn't the DA doing well, considering that those views are in the DA?
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2021, 10:44:59 PM »

Who are those New Democrat/DLC types that a moderate could have flipped?
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2021, 11:00:07 PM »

You never hear talk IRL of parties dissolving if they win elections.
IRL isn't a game.
No, Labor's dominance is nothing compared to the JCP dominance
Here are all elections that the JCP won since the start of the JCP vs. RPP party system:

June 09: Lief/BK 50%
October 09: Lief/BK 55%
June 10: Purple State/Marokai Blue1 62%
October 10: Fritz/Kalwejt 53%
June 11: Polnut/BK 66%
October 11: Snowguy/BK 51%

Average win percentage: 56.1%
___________________________________
1. Purple State was aligned with the JCP
___________________________________
Here are all elections that Labor won since Labor Day 2018:

October 18: WB/MB 51%
June 19: Adam Griffin/Jimmy 52%
October 19: Adam Griffin/Pericles 66%
February 20: Pericles/Peanut 62%
June 20: Pericles/Sestak 66%
October 20: MB/Ted Bessell 56%
February 21: Windjammer/Sestak 51%

Average win percentage: 57.7%
Finished this after a week
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Here are all at-large Senate elections since after the start of the JCP vs. RPP party sytsem:

August 09: JCP 34%
December 09: JCP 29%
April 10: JCP 40%
August 10: 41%
December 10: 29%
April 11: 29%
August 11: 37%
December 11: 45%

Average percentage: 35.5%
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Here are all House elections since after Labor Day 2018:

October 18: Labor/Peace/PUP 53.4%
December 18: Labor/Peace 55.1%
February 19: Labor/Peace 45.8%
April 19: Labor/Peace 55.5%
June 19: Labor/Peace 52.8%
August 19: Labor/Peace 56%
October 19: Labor/Peace 63%
December 19: Labor/Peace 55.4%
February 20: Labor/Peace 55.7%
April 20: Labor/Peace/LJP 54.9%
June 20: Labor/Peace/LJP 68.3%
August 20: Labor/Peace/LJP 48.1%
October 20: Labor/Peace 41.8%
December 20: Labor/Peace 48.9%
February 21: Labor/Peace 44.9%
April 21: Labor/Peace/Liberal 51.5%

Average win percentage: 50.06%

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