Should tankies be allowed on Talk Elections?

[TheReckoning]

?

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

They already are. The tankies and Bernie bros support TheReckoning.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

If you are extremely annoying, you should be banned. This deals with most tankies.

[Big Abraham]

I don't think Atlas actually has any legitimate tankies ever since Saruku was banned.

Regardless, all political stripes and opinions should be welcome here, no matter how odious they may be or how far they deviate from the median.

[Donerail]

I don't think Atlas actually has any legitimate tankies ever since Saruku was banned.

And Saruku was Cora doing a bit, not necessarily a "legitimate" tankie — maybe Vittorio, if not then TNF. Many years.

[SWE]

Vittorio was also a bit iirc but the bit he was doing was very much not a tankie. TNF is really the only real person we've I can think of that I'd call a tankie

[PSOL]

Vittorio was his own meme tbh, he’s the only major Bordigist in the English-speaking Internet Left. Meanwhile, Cora was just a dumb kid spouting whatever was edgy at the time

Outside of TNF, the only other person who seriously devoted energy to defend AES states is me lol. It’s a shame we don’t have a solid socialist left on Atlas, it’s getting to the point where I would not complain if someone pushed for a raid from r/FULLCOMMUNISM, leftypol, or wherever the spicy people on Twitter are.

[Chips]

Sure.

[PSOL]

Atlas is a pretty pluralistic place, but Tankies are the last group of people I want congregating here with their crazy moral self-righteousness.

Most of those are Western Gonzaloites and extremely online Twitter personalities. Most tankies online generally congregate and act civil elsewhere.

[Big Abraham]

Atlas is a pretty pluralistic place, but Tankies are the last group of people I want congregating here with their crazy moral self-righteousness.

Most of those are Western Gonzaloites and extremely online Twitter personalities. Most tankies online generally congregate and act civil elsewhere.

A lot of them used to be active on a forum called "Soviet-Empire," where I was briefly a poster when I was more heavily into M-L, and they were far more agreeable and often more tasteful (even the outright Juche-ists, of which there were a few) than many of our forum's party-line Democrats are.

[FrancoAgo]

Yes, they are useful against the fascist

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Vittorio was also a bit iirc but the bit he was doing was very much not a tankie. TNF is really the only real person we've I can think of that I'd call a tankie

I don't think Atlas actually has any legitimate tankies ever since Saruku was banned.

And Saruku was Cora doing a bit, not necessarily a "legitimate" tankie — maybe Vittorio, if not then TNF. Many years.

Snowstalker.

[Stuart98]

Genocide deniers shouldn't be allowed on Talk Elections. Not going to say that there should be a blanket ban on talkies but if they deny the atrocities self-professed communist regimes have committed and are continuing to commit against large swathes of their population, then they shouldn't be allowed here.

EDIT: Fixed typo.

[Donerail]

Vittorio was also a bit iirc but the bit he was doing was very much not a tankie. TNF is really the only real person we've I can think of that I'd call a tankie

I don't think Atlas actually has any legitimate tankies ever since Saruku was banned.

And Saruku was Cora doing a bit, not necessarily a "legitimate" tankie — maybe Vittorio, if not then TNF. Many years.

Snowstalker.

If we're not counting Vittorio (who's not a proper Marxist-Leninist but did quote a lot of obscure Communist academics, which is enough to earn the label on the internet these days) we certainly can't count Snowstalker.

[PSOL]

Atlas is a pretty pluralistic place, but Tankies are the last group of people I want congregating here with their crazy moral self-righteousness.

Most of those are Western Gonzaloites and extremely online Twitter personalities. Most tankies online generally congregate and act civil elsewhere.

A lot of them used to be active on a forum called "Soviet-Empire," where I was briefly a poster when I was more heavily into M-L, and they were far more agreeable and often more tasteful (even the outright Juche-ists, of which there were a few) than many of our forum's party-line Democrats are.

There was a forum of MLs on the internet aside from the botnets back then? That sound rad, what happened to it?

[Diabolical Materialism]

Vittorio was his own meme tbh, he’s the only major Bordigist in the English-speaking Internet Left. Meanwhile, Cora was just a dumb kid spouting whatever was edgy at the time

Outside of TNF, the only other person who seriously devoted energy to defend AES states is me lol. It’s a shame we don’t have a solid socialist left on Atlas, it’s getting to the point where I would not complain if someone pushed for a raid from r/FULLCOMMUNISM, leftypol, or wherever the spicy people on Twitter are.

This hurt dog ngl

[Big Abraham]

Atlas is a pretty pluralistic place, but Tankies are the last group of people I want congregating here with their crazy moral self-righteousness.

Most of those are Western Gonzaloites and extremely online Twitter personalities. Most tankies online generally congregate and act civil elsewhere.

A lot of them used to be active on a forum called "Soviet-Empire," where I was briefly a poster when I was more heavily into M-L, and they were far more agreeable and often more tasteful (even the outright Juche-ists, of which there were a few) than many of our forum's party-line Democrats are.

There was a forum of MLs on the internet aside from the botnets back then? That sound rad, what happened to it?

Looks like it’s still around, although it’s pretty much dead. Hardly any posts this year but some decent stuff may be archived. Its heyday was around 2011/12.  You’d have to go back pretty far to find anything from when I was posting there.

[PSOL]

Vittorio was his own meme tbh, he’s the only major Bordigist in the English-speaking Internet Left. Meanwhile, Cora was just a dumb kid spouting whatever was edgy at the time

Outside of TNF, the only other person who seriously devoted energy to defend AES states is me lol. It’s a shame we don’t have a solid socialist left on Atlas, it’s getting to the point where I would not complain if someone pushed for a raid from r/FULLCOMMUNISM, leftypol, or wherever the spicy people on Twitter are.

This hurt dog ngl

Oh my, how could I forget about my beau.

I’m sorry bout that

[PSOL]

Atlas is a pretty pluralistic place, but Tankies are the last group of people I want congregating here with their crazy moral self-righteousness.

Most of those are Western Gonzaloites and extremely online Twitter personalities. Most tankies online generally congregate and act civil elsewhere.

A lot of them used to be active on a forum called "Soviet-Empire," where I was briefly a poster when I was more heavily into M-L, and they were far more agreeable and often more tasteful (even the outright Juche-ists, of which there were a few) than many of our forum's party-line Democrats are.

There was a forum of MLs on the internet aside from the botnets back then? That sound rad, what happened to it?

Looks like it’s still around, although it’s pretty much dead. Hardly any posts this year but some decent stuff may be archived. Its heyday was around 2011/12.  You’d have to go back pretty far to find anything from when I was posting there.

Holy hell is this comprehensive

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

In general, atlas self-selects people with an interest in democratic elections. Marxist Leninists, who regard liberal democracy as bourgeoisie sham, are less likely to have mich interest in the nuts and bolts of presidential elections than your average politics nerd.

[HisGrace]

No one should be banned for ideology but if you were going to ban anyone tankies would be a good choice.

[PSOL]

No one should be banned for ideology but if you were going to ban anyone tankies would be a good choice.

I guess some people are more equal than others.

[Hindsight was 2020]

No one should be banned for ideology but if you were going to ban anyone tankies would be a good choice.

I guess some people are more equal than others.

I see what you did there

[Agonized-Statism]

They do a pretty good job isolating themselves as is.

[Ferguson97]

All non-bigoted ideologies should be allowed. Tankies are idiots but they aren't bigots. So they should be allowed.