Columbus, OH police officer fatally shoots 15 year old Black girl

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

This is certainly a tragedy, but almost certainly not a criminal act.

[Buzz]

This could probably have been solved in a different manner, by some warning shots from the police officer instead of outright killing her.

Warning shots?  The time that passed from when the officer arrived to shots fired was about 5 seconds.  There was no time for warning shots... the girl in pink would have been stabbed.

[Wormless Gourd]

Why do these always happen in the midwest?

High degree of residential and economic separation in Midwestern cities; police more likely to be called in areas experiencing gentrification or recent economic development where self-sorting remains more mixed. Colombus has grown rapidly as had Minneapolis since 2010.
What would usually be an episode kept within the neighborhood for some people, regardless of the outcome, has others who want the police in the mix. A difference of values and institutional trust producing a lot of situations like this.
Atleast that's my theory.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I am confident that like in Floyd case 27M and Breyona 7 M, the state will Financially compensate these victims

The state can't have any of these officers testify in a Civil Trial and they can invite 5th Amendment in a Criminal trial. Civil Trials you have to testify

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

I am confident that like in Floyd case 27M and Breyona 7 M, the state will Financially compensate these victims

The state can't have any of these officers testify in a Civil Trial and they can invite 5th Amendment in a Criminal trial. Civil Trials you have to testify

The state will not be admitting fault in this case.

[Tender Branson]

This could probably have been solved in a different manner, by some warning shots from the police officer instead of outright killing her.

By the time it would take to shoot a warning shot the girl in the pink would already be stabbed.

That’s absurd.

People don’t always die because of a stab wound, certainly not from a 16-year old girl half-heartedly trying to stab another girl.

In the best case, both of them would be alive now, just with the difference that the other girl might have needed a few stitches ...

[ultraviolet]

This could probably have been solved in a different manner, by some warning shots from the police officer instead of outright killing her.

By the time it would take to shoot a warning shot the girl in the pink would already be stabbed.

That’s absurd.

People don’t always die because of a stab wound, certainly not from a 16-year old girl half-heartedly trying to stab another girl.

In the best case, both of them would be alive now, just with the difference that the other girl might have needed a few stitches ...

Better to shoot the person who is trying to kill someone than to risk the death of an innocent person

[Tender Branson]

This could probably have been solved in a different manner, by some warning shots from the police officer instead of outright killing her.

By the time it would take to shoot a warning shot the girl in the pink would already be stabbed.

That’s absurd.

People don’t always die because of a stab wound, certainly not from a 16-year old girl half-heartedly trying to stab another girl.

In the best case, both of them would be alive now, just with the difference that the other girl might have needed a few stitches ...

Better to shoot the person who is trying to kill someone than to risk the death of an innocent person

Maybe, but a good cop would diffuse the situation and rescue both.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

This could probably have been solved in a different manner, by some warning shots from the police officer instead of outright killing her.

By the time it would take to shoot a warning shot the girl in the pink would already be stabbed.

That’s absurd.

People don’t always die because of a stab wound, certainly not from a 16-year old girl half-heartedly trying to stab another girl.

In the best case, both of them would be alive now, just with the difference that the other girl might have needed a few stitches ...

A stab to the throat can kill almost instantly, and even elsewhere there's no guarantee that the victim wouldn't bleed out before medical help could arrive. And even that's assuming it's only a single stab wound.

[It’s so Joever]

Thank gosh for body cams.

[ProudModerate2]

This could probably have been solved in a different manner, by some warning shots from the police officer instead of outright killing her.

By the time it would take to shoot a warning shot the girl in the pink would already be stabbed.

That’s absurd.
People don’t always die because of a stab wound, certainly not from a 16-year old girl half-heartedly trying to stab another girl.
In the best case, both of them would be alive now, just with the difference that the other girl might have needed a few stitches ...

Are you listening to yourself?  Re-read you post above.
Or is this troll/joking post?

[lfromnj]

https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1384882052085002240



https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2021/04/21/makhia-bryant-columbus-police-discuss-shooting-body-camera-video/7318569002/

Also the 911 calls were released with a bit more bodycam footage.

Woods said Wednesday that police had received a 911 call about the attempted stabbing that brought officer to the scene. Police had not established as of Wednesday who placed that call.

In that call at 4:32 p.m. Tuesday, screaming can be heard as the caller asks police to come and says someone is trying to stab them. The police dispatcher tries to get more information and there is screaming before the call is disconnected

[HisGrace]

This whole controversy is ridiculous. The media is just trying to piggyback off the Floyd story to turn this into a thing and get ratings. She was just about to stab her, that's a sharp enough knife to kill someone. There was no time to do anything else. Regardless of who started the fight the other girl did not appear to be engaging anymore.

This was intervention to save a black person in fact. But as another person said if it had been the other girl who died you'd be hearing crickets right now. Black lives only matter when you can use them to race bait and virtue signal I guess. Ultimately what is being suggested is that he should have stood there and let her get stabbed. She's not one of the black lives that matter I guess.

[Badger]

I really can't see an argument for self defense once the cops arrived. Right before she was about to stab the pink girl, the pink girl was literally walking away from the situation and towards the cops. Everyone was reasonably safe once the cops arrived.

Respect to the cop for the accuracy in shooting only at the stabber and not the girl in pink. Even at close range that seems like a relatively tough shot.

We don't know what happened before the body cam footage starts or why the girl called the police though. Not saying it was warranted, but there's obviously context missing here.

But that background is not relevant to the shooting. Even if the shooting victim was completely justified in brandishing a knife beforehand against these other girls allegedly trying to force their way into her home and assault her, she had exactly zero factual or legal justification to attempt stabbing that girl in the pink as the police arrived.

Also, I'm not going to say that it never occurs, but the whole shoot him in the leg stuff is pure TV or movie cop BS. That statement was one of the more cringe-worthy things I've ever heard Biden say.

The one remaining question in my mind is why the cop drew his pistol rather than his taser. It may very well be that CPD policy is to draw a firearm upon identification of a deadly weapon being brandished , but I'm not sure.

[Mr. Illini]

This could probably have been solved in a different manner, by some warning shots from the police officer instead of outright killing her.

IIRC, warning shots are largely not permitted by police departments. I believe that there has been discussion for a long time about bringing them back as a way to potentially avoid fatal gun shots, but there are other considerations as well about the safety of warning shots to all parties involved.

[Badger]

It's tough to criticize a split-second decision, but it would have been better for the officer to follow President Biden's suggestion to shoot in the leg.

That was an ignorant comment from Biden and wouldn't be applicable in this case. Even an Olympic sharpshooter would have difficulty hitting a leg on a moving person in the split second time available like in that video. That's a movie trope, not a realistic thing.

I agree this is not a great case to make a stand over, but her backside/thighs are as big of a target as her chest in that video.

Dude.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1384882052085002240



https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2021/04/21/makhia-bryant-columbus-police-discuss-shooting-body-camera-video/7318569002/

Also the 911 calls were released with a bit more bodycam footage.

Woods said Wednesday that police had received a 911 call about the attempted stabbing that brought officer to the scene. Police had not established as of Wednesday who placed that call.

In that call at 4:32 p.m. Tuesday, screaming can be heard as the caller asks police to come and says someone is trying to stab them. The police dispatcher tries to get more information and there is screaming before the call is disconnected

Personally I don’t care the reason but every fatal police shooting should be national news the same as a plane crash. Sometimes there’s nothing the pilot/police could do but we should all be horrified and dismayed that it came to that.

[Badger]

This could probably have been solved in a different manner, by some warning shots from the police officer instead of outright killing her.

Have you actually watched the video? It is incomprehensible that anyone could have done so, and by any objective standard think he could have suddenly talked the deceased down, shot her in the leg, tased her, scared her off with warning shots, do a judo double backflip and disarmed the girl from six feet away, Etc.

[Badger]

This could probably have been solved in a different manner, by some warning shots from the police officer instead of outright killing her.

By the time it would take to shoot a warning shot the girl in the pink would already be stabbed.

That’s absurd.

People don’t always die because of a stab wound, certainly not from a 16-year old girl half-heartedly trying to stab another girl.

In the best case, both of them would be alive now, just with the difference that the other girl might have needed a few stitches ...

"People don't always die of a stab wound." Jesus tap-dancing Christ, tender.

Okay, people don't always die from being shot either. Pretty stupid argument either way isn't it?

You might want to Google the terms artery and jugular before posting something this block headed again.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Quite frankly, regardless of whether shooting her was necessary or not, this situation is one of those that isn't as grey or as an overtly cut-and dry overreaction as other circumstances of police killings like Michael Brown or Duante Wright respectively. It's probably best to move on from this one lest we get another near literal culture war out of it. To the majority of the country, justified or not, this is not going to be a winning example of the why police reform is necessary.

[7,052,770]

It's tough to criticize a split-second decision, but it would have been better for the officer to follow President Biden's suggestion to shoot in the leg.

That was an ignorant comment from Biden and wouldn't be applicable in this case. Even an Olympic sharpshooter would have difficulty hitting a leg on a moving person in the split second time available like in that video. That's a movie trope, not a realistic thing.

I agree this is not a great case to make a stand over, but her backside/thighs are as big of a target as her chest in that video.

Dude.

What? Someone would have to be quite unusually proportioned for their non-lethal areas to be a smaller target than their heart area.

There's nothing wrong with a policy of "try to shoot non-lethally" as long as people take into consideration that that's not always possible, especially in a split-seconds-matter context.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

It's tough to criticize a split-second decision, but it would have been better for the officer to follow President Biden's suggestion to shoot in the leg.

That was an ignorant comment from Biden and wouldn't be applicable in this case. Even an Olympic sharpshooter would have difficulty hitting a leg on a moving person in the split second time available like in that video. That's a movie trope, not a realistic thing.

I agree this is not a great case to make a stand over, but her backside/thighs are as big of a target as her chest in that video.

Dude.

What? Someone would have to be quite unusually proportioned for their non-lethal areas to be a smaller target than their heart area.

There's nothing wrong with a policy of "try to shoot non-lethally" as long as people take into consideration that that's not always possible, especially in a split-seconds-matter context.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-trained-shoot-wound-experts/story?id=40402933

[DabbingSanta]

The life of the black girl in pink, who was saved by this officer's quick response, doesn't matter to BLM.  It is sad that a 16 year old had to die, but she was lunging at someone with a deadly weapon. The officer did his job.  If the police didn't respond, another black life would be dead.  We wouldn't be hearing about it, but that doesn't change the facts. Is that what these activists want?  The crime in black neighborhoods takes way more lives than police brutality does.  We have a culture that promotes crime and violence.  We need to address this.  Try and abolish the police all you want, but that isn't going to solve the real issue here.

[AGA]

I find it funny how some people expect police officers to be some ninja who can safely disarm someone with a knife with their bare hands.

[politicallefty]

For those arguing the cop should've used a taser, even if didn't end up like Adam Toledo, tasers aren't magic bullets. (Bad pun intended.)

In any case, this one's gonna be difficult to resolve.

I don't think there will be a criminal case for the officer, but the family will probably get a substantial settlement. I would just say that four shots is intent to kill, not incapacitate. I think that's where the issue is and one of the problems with policing nowadays. They're almost trained to empty their gun into any potential threat. I'm not going to pass judgement on this case yet in either way. I don't think it's on the same level as George Floyd or Daunte Wright.